(Beta) ff_swoop_b2

ian.de · 02-09-2013, 03:12 AM

FF_Swoop_b2

Shutdown Style CTF

Should be fast paced, surf walls in yard, lots of ramps. I made it so scouts and meds spawn with full concs.

Snarkpit download mirror

FDA_Approved · 02-09-2013, 03:26 AM

Looks pretty sexy. I like your texture work.

R00Kie · 02-09-2013, 03:33 AM

looks fun

**Elmo** · 02-10-2013, 08:37 PM

just played this and it rocks. I think we'll see this getting played a lot more!

KubeDawg · 02-10-2013, 09:20 PM

Played this today on my server while it was full, had a blast. This will definitely be making it into my map rotation.

great job.

XPelargos · 02-11-2013, 02:03 AM

Tone down the nades please. Defense especially gets tons of EMPs MIRVs and lasers

Perhaps security to schtop length (40 seconds).

It currently lasts shorter than schtop and takes longer to get to FR from button than destroy (30 sec) or schtop (40)

Cool map mid could be made even more like a skatepark.

aleXtric · 02-11-2013, 08:36 AM

i still don't see explosions on this map for some reason, and yes nades need to be toned down

ian.de · 02-11-2013, 11:59 PM

Beta 2 is almost ready.

I made some minor clip brush changes and tweaked the flag nook. I also increased the security time from 30 seconds to 40 seconds.

For the nades what do you guys think?

I'm removing all secondary grenades from the two grenade bags. Scouts and medics will all still spawn with 3 concs right off the bat.

Should each grenade bag just give 2 primary grenades? Or just 1?

I'm thinking 2 primaries would be ok. The problem seems to be MIRV and laser nade spam in the main ramp room.

ian.de · 02-12-2013, 08:28 AM

Uploaded beta 2 and updated the download link in the original post.

Changes made:

Fixed some clip brushes in the yard for smoother transitions.
Opened up the ceiling a bit on the top surf ramp near the button.
Lengthened the ceiling above the top ramp down into flag room (people were hitting there heads on the lip and losing speed)
Removed secondary grenades from the grenade bags and increased the bag timers from 10 seconds to 15 seconds.
Added a curved back wall to the flag nook similar to the one in Hellion
Fixed the ladders and other various small texture realignments.

I thought about increasing the security time from 30 seconds to 40 seconds but as it is right now, this map is definitely an offense-heavy map in pickups. The shorter security really does mitigate the offense from relaying like crazy.

aleXtric · 02-12-2013, 02:29 PM

Do the D have 1 secondary grenade after spawning now?

ian.de · 02-12-2013, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleXtric

Do the D have 1 secondary grenade after spawning now?

Yes, I figure one "oh shit" MIRV and laser nade is acceptable.

the_cake · 03-01-2013, 05:24 PM

Increasing the spawn to enemy base time on this map to about 7 or 8 seconds would double the playability as it is otherwise a great map.

Dr. eXpl0si0n · 03-01-2013, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_cake

Increasing the spawn to enemy base time on this map to about 7 or 8 seconds would double the playability as it is otherwise a great map.

who's this guy?

KubeDawg · 03-01-2013, 10:43 PM

A big fat lie apparently.

WiFiDi · 03-27-2013, 02:48 AM

love this map btw.

Agent Buckshot Moose · 04-06-2013, 11:22 PM

Pyro should spawn only with 2 napalms instead of 4.

ddm999 · 04-07-2013, 08:51 AM

The respawn doors need to deal damage to entities blocking them. Now that they're just set to force close without dealing damage, it leads to very strange effects...

Place a Jump Pad into the path of the respawn doors.
Then watch the doors fly outside the respawn and go across the map :L

I've put a screenshot on my Google Drive:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Up...it?usp=sharing

Bear in mind that if the door goes the other way past the top yard entrance, you can jump into the way of the door stopping it moving.
That can really slow down attackers coming from top yard...

**squeek.** · 04-08-2013, 01:30 AM

I like this map a lot (finally played for the first time it just recently). It feels like it was made for FF in that it utilizes FF's movement system really well. The yard/battlements interaction is pretty clever, too.

ian.de · 04-08-2013, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeek.

I like this map a lot (finally played for the first time it just recently). It feels like it was made for FF in that it utilizes FF's movement system really well. The yard/battlements interaction is pretty clever, too.

I'm smiling from ear to ear!

How do people feel about making the security door passable for defense while the security is up? That way the demo and engi could reset without having to wait for the door to come up or by going up top.

WiFiDi · 07-03-2013, 03:47 PM

this map ian you pretty much aced there isn't much you can do that would make it more amazing. but that beign able to get thru that door would be nice. just don't use lazer lines to many of those already do a full lazer wall. (that you can passthru.)

however the map might play better with a solid door idk how it will effect the map worth a try atleast.

also should put FF logo somewhere in yard for funnzies.

02-09-2013, 03:12 AM	#1
ian.de Join Date: Aug 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 14 Times	ff_swoop_b2 FF_Swoop_b2 Shutdown Style CTF Should be fast paced, surf walls in yard, lots of ramps. I made it so scouts and meds spawn with full concs. Snarkpit download mirror Last edited by ian.de; 02-12-2013 at 08:21 AM.
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02-09-2013, 03:26 AM	#2
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	Looks pretty sexy. I like your texture work. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

02-09-2013, 03:33 AM	#3
R00Kie Kawaii!　ルーキー Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nowhere, Kansas Class/Position: Random Gametype: CTF Affiliations: BiG, Kawaii!, MustacheBrigade, GoodFellas Posts Rated Helpful 82 Times	looks fun __________________ Released: [ Island ] [ Rookie ] [ Limbo ] [ Sonic ] [ Tomb ] [ Skydive2 ] [ Bunkerwars ] Beta: [ Argon ] [ Reflection ] [ Urbantag ] Lua: [ game_rules ]

02-10-2013, 08:37 PM	#4
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	just played this and it rocks. I think we'll see this getting played a lot more! __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

02-10-2013, 09:20 PM	#5
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	Played this today on my server while it was full, had a blast. This will definitely be making it into my map rotation. great job. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

02-11-2013, 02:03 AM	#6
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	Tone down the nades please. Defense especially gets tons of EMPs MIRVs and lasers Perhaps security to schtop length (40 seconds). It currently lasts shorter than schtop and takes longer to get to FR from button than destroy (30 sec) or schtop (40) Cool map mid could be made even more like a skatepark. Last edited by XPelargos; 02-11-2013 at 02:04 AM.

02-11-2013, 08:36 AM	#7
aleXtric #FF.Pickup Dictator Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Detroit Gametype: ADL Affiliations: KiNGz . Posts Rated Helpful 100 Times	i still don't see explosions on this map for some reason, and yes nades need to be toned down __________________ !add #FF.Pickup - Quakenet http://www.ffpickup.com/?p=irc

02-11-2013, 11:59 PM	#8
ian.de Join Date: Aug 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 14 Times	Beta 2 is almost ready. I made some minor clip brush changes and tweaked the flag nook. I also increased the security time from 30 seconds to 40 seconds. For the nades what do you guys think? I'm removing all secondary grenades from the two grenade bags. Scouts and medics will all still spawn with 3 concs right off the bat. Should each grenade bag just give 2 primary grenades? Or just 1? I'm thinking 2 primaries would be ok. The problem seems to be MIRV and laser nade spam in the main ramp room. Last edited by ian.de; 02-11-2013 at 11:59 PM.

02-12-2013, 08:28 AM	#9
ian.de Join Date: Aug 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 14 Times	Uploaded beta 2 and updated the download link in the original post. Changes made: Fixed some clip brushes in the yard for smoother transitions. Opened up the ceiling a bit on the top surf ramp near the button. Lengthened the ceiling above the top ramp down into flag room (people were hitting there heads on the lip and losing speed) Removed secondary grenades from the grenade bags and increased the bag timers from 10 seconds to 15 seconds. Added a curved back wall to the flag nook similar to the one in Hellion Fixed the ladders and other various small texture realignments. I thought about increasing the security time from 30 seconds to 40 seconds but as it is right now, this map is definitely an offense-heavy map in pickups. The shorter security really does mitigate the offense from relaying like crazy.

02-12-2013, 02:29 PM	#10
aleXtric #FF.Pickup Dictator Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Detroit Gametype: ADL Affiliations: KiNGz . Posts Rated Helpful 100 Times	Do the D have 1 secondary grenade after spawning now? __________________ !add #FF.Pickup - Quakenet http://www.ffpickup.com/?p=irc

03-01-2013, 05:24 PM	#12
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	Increasing the spawn to enemy base time on this map to about 7 or 8 seconds would double the playability as it is otherwise a great map.

03-01-2013, 10:43 PM	#14
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	A big fat lie apparently. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

03-27-2013, 02:48 AM	#15
WiFiDi Beta Tester Join Date: May 2010 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Capture the Flag is there any other Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	love this map btw. __________________ WiFi's Stream Support FF: Failure is always an option. It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!) To make most awesome thing in universe combine Bears and Nicholas Cage! and remember kids, we didn't start the flame-war! Last edited by WiFiDi; 03-27-2013 at 02:48 AM.

04-06-2013, 11:22 PM	#16
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Pyro should spawn only with 2 napalms instead of 4.

04-07-2013, 08:51 AM	#17
ddm999 worst ff player eu Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: South Yorks., England Class/Position: o - no, d - scout Gametype: IvDZ Posts Rated Helpful 18 Times	The respawn doors need to deal damage to entities blocking them. Now that they're just set to force close without dealing damage, it leads to very strange effects... Place a Jump Pad into the path of the respawn doors. Then watch the doors fly outside the respawn and go across the map :L I've put a screenshot on my Google Drive: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Up...it?usp=sharing Bear in mind that if the door goes the other way past the top yard entrance, you can jump into the way of the door stopping it moving. That can really slow down attackers coming from top yard...

04-08-2013, 01:30 AM	#18
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	I like this map a lot (finally played for the first time it just recently). It feels like it was made for FF in that it utilizes FF's movement system really well. The yard/battlements interaction is pretty clever, too. __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington Last edited by squeek.; 04-08-2013 at 01:33 AM.

07-03-2013, 03:47 PM	#20
WiFiDi Beta Tester Join Date: May 2010 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Capture the Flag is there any other Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	this map ian you pretty much aced there isn't much you can do that would make it more amazing. but that beign able to get thru that door would be nice. just don't use lazer lines to many of those already do a full lazer wall. (that you can passthru.) however the map might play better with a solid door idk how it will effect the map worth a try atleast. also should put FF logo somewhere in yard for funnzies. __________________ WiFi's Stream Support FF: Failure is always an option. It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!) To make most awesome thing in universe combine Bears and Nicholas Cage! and remember kids, we didn't start the flame-war! Last edited by WiFiDi; 07-03-2013 at 06:05 PM.

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