(Request) Rocket Flare

immortal · 11-20-2009, 07:30 PM

http://www.ozfortress.com/media/cust..._potw_16_Flare

is it possible to have a rocket flare like this in FF?

**squeek.** · 11-20-2009, 11:12 PM

As of right now, not really. Eventually, we'd like to put some sort of rocketflare customization in Fortress Options.

There is this, though: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19217

Related thread: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19117

immortal · 11-20-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeek.

As of right now, not really. Eventually, we'd like to put some sort of rocketflare customization in Fortress Options.

There is this, though: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19217

Related thread: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19117

thank you

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 01-04-2010, 03:33 PM

I could swore I separated out the flair shiz around the time I did the explosion decal adjustment.. I know it shared some of the same decal info that was being used for half a dozen other stuff. I know I got it to the point where you could customize the smoke trail color, and tweak the flair color.

I can't for the life of me remember if I made that change live or not back when I was doing shit.

*edit to add, I'm at work, so its possible I'm talking 100% out of my ass.
** Second edit! Found my old post talking about this exact issue - the problem was that the smoke emitted from the rocket uses the particle system, and wasn't easy to adjust. So the long and short of it is *meh* So disregard the above about smoke.

Mortifer Soldat`ch · 01-06-2010, 03:48 PM

If someone would seperate it up; i'd start making skins for it.

rodox · 01-06-2010, 08:07 PM

It's my understanding you can change the rocket flare but it will also change your muzzleflash... but you can disable muzzleflashes with cl_disablemuzzleflashes 1

DeToXxX · 01-09-2010, 03:21 AM

it would be too easy to do. Unfortunately FF uses the same flare for rocket trail that it uses for the muzzle flash for all your weapons. If they make them separate files, too easy. But, if you want, I can make it. But, when you shoot a gun it's gonna have a blue flare looking muzzle flash.

CHURCHMOUTH · 01-09-2010, 03:31 AM

sounds cool make it happen

NeonLight · 01-09-2010, 06:01 AM

PoC already did this -.-

immortal · 01-10-2010, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToXxX

it would be too easy to do. Unfortunately FF uses the same flare for rocket trail that it uses for the muzzle flash for all your weapons. If they make them separate files, too easy. But, if you want, I can make it. But, when you shoot a gun it's gonna have a blue flare looking muzzle flash.

do it please

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoNL

PoC already did this -.-

link now
where can i find PoC?

NeonLight · 01-10-2010, 03:49 PM

Squeek linked it in post #2. Sorry PoC to me is Marxist to you

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeek.

As of right now, not really. Eventually, we'd like to put some sort of rocketflare customization in Fortress Options.

There is this, though: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19217

Related thread: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19117

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 01-11-2010, 03:56 PM

Its actually super easy to seperate the rocket flair from the muzzle flash gcf. All you need to do is point the rocket flair info from the generic source gcf to the rockets ingame folder, and copy the actual texture file there.

I don't have FF installed here at work, so I can't give you the exact info, but it should just be a matter of editing the rockets vtf (or whatever the file that you can open in notepad is.. I'm way out of practice now) to point to the new location w/in FF's materials folder, instead of the source materials.

It really should have been done that way in the first place. Many of FF's resources pull from the generic files, and share them across the board. I guess that allows for a smaller package size for FF, but makes modding a pain.

I digress tho, as I said, it is a really easy fix. I'm not sure if you can edit this locally on your own client, but maybe if a dev loves you enough, they'll update it in the next patch. It'd probably be worth the effort to go in and seperate out some of the more moddable texture files, but I dunno if it'd ever be considered a priority thing.

CHURCHMOUTH · 01-11-2010, 05:08 PM

i really wish u weren't retired

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 01-12-2010, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHURCHMOUTH

i really wish u weren't retired

Yea, IRL came in and kicked my butt

Marxist · 01-13-2010, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Its actually super easy to seperate the rocket flair from the muzzle flash gcf. All you need to do is point the rocket flair info from the generic source gcf to the rockets ingame folder, and copy the actual texture file there.

I can do this without much of a problem, editing vmts is relatively easy. Thanks for pointing that out though didn't think to do that when I was editting these to keep them seperate from regular flares.

Also what particle files are used by the rpg smoke? I can take a look and see if theres anything to be done about creating some 'trails' to accompany the flare.

immortal · 01-14-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marxist

I can do this without much of a problem, editing vmts is relatively easy. Thanks for pointing that out though didn't think to do that when I was editting these to keep them seperate from regular flares.

Also what particle files are used by the rpg smoke? I can take a look and see if theres anything to be done about creating some 'trails' to accompany the flare.

That'd be great!

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 01-14-2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marxist

I can do this without much of a problem, editing vmts is relatively easy. Thanks for pointing that out though didn't think to do that when I was editting these to keep them seperate from regular flares.

Also what particle files are used by the rpg smoke? I can take a look and see if theres anything to be done about creating some 'trails' to accompany the flare.

I don't think there are any particular files associated w/ the particle dealio. I think its all dynamically generated, which is why it was turning out to be a pain to mod. At least, I never found where the actual smoke was coming from. At one point, I had asked Aftershock to find it, and he basically came back w/ 'not much we can really do about it'.

There's nothing more I wanted to do than mod the smoke color, but sadly, seems we just might be at a limitation of Source. I really don't know enough about the particle engine source uses to even guess at how we could get around it.

**Elmo** · 01-14-2010, 05:13 PM

You would think it would be easily possible....

Marxist · 01-14-2010, 06:28 PM

Ah yet another thing that source mysteriously pulls something out seemingly nothing to create a 'sprite'. Blood is the same way, although I did figure out how to edit it....if you don't mind playing with constant 10-25 choke.

It's a headache and a half trying to find some of this crap to edit it, I definitely agree there, I saw nothing that would even be remotely close last nice trolling with vtfedit and gfcscape sooooooooooooo, I guess for now smoke trails are out, unless someone's sitting on the info

11-20-2009, 07:30 PM	#1
immortal BADASS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brazil Class/Position: D Solly, O Med Gametype: kill.conc.cap Affiliations: [TALOS] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Rocket Flare http://www.ozfortress.com/media/cust..._potw_16_Flare is it possible to have a rocket flare like this in FF? Last edited by Elmo; 01-09-2010 at 08:07 AM. Reason: changed to request prefix

01-04-2010, 03:33 PM	#4
[AE] 5316 TKZ D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Class/Position: Medic - O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [AE] Asseater Clan Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I could swore I separated out the flair shiz around the time I did the explosion decal adjustment.. I know it shared some of the same decal info that was being used for half a dozen other stuff. I know I got it to the point where you could customize the smoke trail color, and tweak the flair color. I can't for the life of me remember if I made that change live or not back when I was doing shit. edit to add, I'm at work, so its possible I'm talking 100% out of my ass. * Second edit! Found my old post talking about this exact issue - the problem was that the smoke emitted from the rocket uses the particle system, and wasn't easy to adjust. So the long and short of it is meh So disregard the above about smoke. __________________ ================================================== \| [AE] Clan \| Rated R - Langauge/Violence/Adult Themes ICQ #:151482789 * AIM: fl4shbang * Y!: greerjt2000 ================================================== Last edited by [AE] 5316 TKZ; 01-04-2010 at 03:59 PM.

01-09-2010, 03:31 AM	#8
CHURCHMOUTH crystaLcity D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Soldier D Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: Goodfellas Posts Rated Helpful 7 Times	sounds cool make it happen __________________ 83745 L0LZ ff_nyx_b2 ff_schrape_b3 ff_security_b1 ff_baked_b2 ff_reloaded_b1 ff_mulch_dm_b2 ff_oppose_b1

01-09-2010, 06:01 AM	#9
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	PoC already did this -.- __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium

01-11-2010, 03:56 PM	#12
[AE] 5316 TKZ D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Class/Position: Medic - O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [AE] Asseater Clan Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Its actually super easy to seperate the rocket flair from the muzzle flash gcf. All you need to do is point the rocket flair info from the generic source gcf to the rockets ingame folder, and copy the actual texture file there. I don't have FF installed here at work, so I can't give you the exact info, but it should just be a matter of editing the rockets vtf (or whatever the file that you can open in notepad is.. I'm way out of practice now) to point to the new location w/in FF's materials folder, instead of the source materials. It really should have been done that way in the first place. Many of FF's resources pull from the generic files, and share them across the board. I guess that allows for a smaller package size for FF, but makes modding a pain. I digress tho, as I said, it is a really easy fix. I'm not sure if you can edit this locally on your own client, but maybe if a dev loves you enough, they'll update it in the next patch. It'd probably be worth the effort to go in and seperate out some of the more moddable texture files, but I dunno if it'd ever be considered a priority thing. __________________ ================================================== \| [AE] Clan \| Rated R - Langauge/Violence/Adult Themes ICQ #:151482789 * AIM: fl4shbang * Y!: greerjt2000 ==================================================

11-20-2009, 11:12 PM	#2
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	As of right now, not really. Eventually, we'd like to put some sort of rocketflare customization in Fortress Options. There is this, though: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19217 Related thread: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ad.php?t=19117 __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington Last edited by squeek.; 11-20-2009 at 11:14 PM.

01-06-2010, 03:48 PM	#5
Mortifer Soldat`ch Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If someone would seperate it up; i'd start making skins for it.

01-06-2010, 08:07 PM	#6
rodox dunkaroos Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Michigan Class/Position: Railgun Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	It's my understanding you can change the rocket flare but it will also change your muzzleflash... but you can disable muzzleflashes with cl_disablemuzzleflashes 1

01-09-2010, 03:21 AM	#7
DeToXxX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Staten Island, NY Class/Position: Offense Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] .t5 Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	it would be too easy to do. Unfortunately FF uses the same flare for rocket trail that it uses for the muzzle flash for all your weapons. If they make them separate files, too easy. But, if you want, I can make it. But, when you shoot a gun it's gonna have a blue flare looking muzzle flash.

01-11-2010, 05:08 PM	#13
CHURCHMOUTH crystaLcity D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Soldier D Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: Goodfellas Posts Rated Helpful 7 Times	i really wish u weren't retired __________________ 83745 L0LZ ff_nyx_b2 ff_schrape_b3 ff_security_b1 ff_baked_b2 ff_reloaded_b1 ff_mulch_dm_b2 ff_oppose_b1

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01-14-2010, 06:28 PM	#19
Marxist Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Washington State Gametype: CTF/AVD Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Ah yet another thing that source mysteriously pulls something out seemingly nothing to create a 'sprite'. Blood is the same way, although I did figure out how to edit it....if you don't mind playing with constant 10-25 choke. It's a headache and a half trying to find some of this crap to edit it, I definitely agree there, I saw nothing that would even be remotely close last nice trolling with vtfedit and gfcscape sooooooooooooo, I guess for now smoke trails are out, unless someone's sitting on the info __________________ In Progress: ff_sigma, ff_phantom, ff_cannon_classic Released: ff_high_flag_b4

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