New tool for mappers: Propper - Page 2

NeonLight · 01-14-2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricey

yay, I can finish haste now!

Since when did you finish maps

**Ricey** · 01-14-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNL

Since when did you finish maps

Shut yo mouth! I finished haste_classic and scrummage_classic!

NeonLight · 01-14-2010, 08:32 PM

Plz, those are _classic maps. Anyone can do those. Get srs here.

Pon · 01-14-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNL

Anyone can do those.

Anyone who has his own personal Lua slave...

Dr.Satan · 01-15-2010, 06:32 AM

right...I couldn't even get pon to finish the hostile lua for me!

Also, this thread is official derailed, but I'm gonna allow it simply b/c it's keeping this thread bold lol

**Ricey** · 01-15-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

right...I couldn't even get pon to finish the hostile lua for me!

Also, this thread is official derailed, but I'm gonna allow it simply b/c it's keeping this thread bold lol

Haha, sucker ;D

Dr.Satan · 01-16-2010, 01:28 AM

Carl,

Is there a way to and/or are you planning on implementing something that will allow someone to create different skins? I haven't been able to find a way except to create 2 distinct models.

Pon · 01-16-2010, 03:27 AM

Just so my every post in this topic isn't completely off-topic...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

Carl,

Is there a way to and/or are you planning on implementing something that will allow someone to create different skins? I haven't been able to find a way except to create 2 distinct models.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazycarl

New version, beta 0.22, is out. Displacements are supported, as are multiple skins on your props.

I think Carl put the info about how to do it on Propper's Valve Wiki page.

Dr.Satan · 01-16-2010, 06:57 PM

oh shit!

**Crazycarl** · 01-19-2010, 09:59 PM

Lol i snuck it in just for you satan.

Dr.Satan · 01-20-2010, 05:32 AM

I seriously love you carl...this fucking this is so amazing!

**Ricey** · 01-21-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

I seriously love you carl...this fucking this is so amazing!

What the FUCK is this Satan, i thought you LOVED me!!!!!

Dr.Satan · 01-22-2010, 07:44 AM

until you make something better, your out!

**Crazycarl** · 06-06-2010, 04:11 AM

Bumping the thread because I've updated Propper!

Changes since last release:

Fixed bug where using propper_skins resulted in a number of invalid skins.
Propper now deals with complex collision models better, and warns you when you should maybe cut down on the number of solid brushes.
Vertex welding hopefully gives nicer results.
propper_options is the new preferred name of the config entity. Use of it is now required.
propper_physics is the new preferred name of the physics entity.

New entities allow you to add functionality to props:

propper_attachments: add attachment points to a model (for cables and particles)
propper_cables: add ropes/cables to dynamic models!
propper_particles: attach particle emitters to dynamic models (2007 engine and later only)
propper_physgun_interactions: add custom behavior to physics props--eg. stick to walls, paint splatter, impale enemies
propper_gibs: pick custom physics models to use as gibs when the prop breaks

Here's that link again: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Propper

cjeshjoir™ · 06-06-2010, 04:40 AM

Sweet, this is gonna be way fun.

I managed to get a model with custom gibs compiled using only propper by editing the qc and making it read only. Was quite a learning experience.

**Elmo** · 08-21-2010, 11:01 AM

Errrm, dude, can I use propper to make static (not dynamic) ropes?

Basically I have so many ropes in medieval (since beta1) that it crashes the map when you go spectator and zoom out of the skybox.

There's no need for any movement in them at all. I've wanted someone to make them into props for years but no one has ever done it for me. If propper can do it then I'd be really happy cause they add a nice bit of detail to the map.

Used it for the first time (successfully) today. Last time I tried it it was the first version - somehow I messed it up and got no prop! Seemed nice n easy to work this time

**Crazycarl** · 08-21-2010, 02:35 PM

If you build ropes out of brushes, you can make those into static props. Ropes that you add will only for on dynamic props.

**Elmo** · 08-21-2010, 02:36 PM

kk - will take a while (so many ropes) but I might just do that.

**Elmo** · 08-28-2010, 10:55 AM

Hey Carl,

I'm propping something that's only displacement. I encountered that bug and put a nodraw func_detail block in which sorted it. 2 things:

My skins dont seem to work
My collisions dont work, I got a large box offset from my model.

**Crazycarl** · 08-28-2010, 04:17 PM

Displacements aren't solid. If you need collisions, put in a clip brush.

I've noticed that if you have only two skins, it ignores the second one--apparently a logic error on my part--Add a third skin setting (can be the same as the second one) and it should work.

01-14-2010, 08:32 PM	#23
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	Plz, those are _classic maps. Anyone can do those. Get srs here. __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium

01-15-2010, 06:32 AM	#25
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	right...I couldn't even get pon to finish the hostile lua for me! Also, this thread is official derailed, but I'm gonna allow it simply b/c it's keeping this thread bold lol __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

01-16-2010, 01:28 AM	#27
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Carl, Is there a way to and/or are you planning on implementing something that will allow someone to create different skins? I haven't been able to find a way except to create 2 distinct models. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

01-16-2010, 06:57 PM	#29
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	oh shit! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

01-20-2010, 05:32 AM	#31
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	I seriously love you carl...this fucking this is so amazing! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

01-19-2010, 09:59 PM	#30
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Lol i snuck it in just for you satan.

01-22-2010, 07:44 AM	#33
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	until you make something better, your out! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

06-06-2010, 04:11 AM	#34
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Bumping the thread because I've updated Propper! Changes since last release: Fixed bug where using propper_skins resulted in a number of invalid skins. Propper now deals with complex collision models better, and warns you when you should maybe cut down on the number of solid brushes. Vertex welding hopefully gives nicer results. propper_options is the new preferred name of the config entity. Use of it is now required. propper_physics is the new preferred name of the physics entity. New entities allow you to add functionality to props: propper_attachments: add attachment points to a model (for cables and particles) propper_cables: add ropes/cables to dynamic models! propper_particles: attach particle emitters to dynamic models (2007 engine and later only) propper_physgun_interactions: add custom behavior to physics props--eg. stick to walls, paint splatter, impale enemies propper_gibs: pick custom physics models to use as gibs when the prop breaks Here's that link again: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Propper

06-06-2010, 04:40 AM	#35
cjeshjoir™ 1-800-UNAGIPOWA Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California, USA Gametype: AvD, Spirit of TFC Affiliations: ™.AvD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sweet, this is gonna be way fun. I managed to get a model with custom gibs compiled using only propper by editing the qc and making it read only. Was quite a learning experience. __________________ " In my opinion the testing team isn't really made for or of public players, it's made for competative players... " ¹ -Scuzzy (post# 462713)

08-21-2010, 11:01 AM	#36
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Errrm, dude, can I use propper to make static (not dynamic) ropes? Basically I have so many ropes in medieval (since beta1) that it crashes the map when you go spectator and zoom out of the skybox. There's no need for any movement in them at all. I've wanted someone to make them into props for years but no one has ever done it for me. If propper can do it then I'd be really happy cause they add a nice bit of detail to the map. Used it for the first time (successfully) today. Last time I tried it it was the first version - somehow I messed it up and got no prop! Seemed nice n easy to work this time __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 08-21-2010 at 11:03 AM.

08-21-2010, 02:35 PM	#37
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	If you build ropes out of brushes, you can make those into static props. Ropes that you add will only for on dynamic props.

08-21-2010, 02:36 PM	#38
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	kk - will take a while (so many ropes) but I might just do that. __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 08-21-2010 at 02:36 PM.

08-28-2010, 10:55 AM	#39
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Hey Carl, I'm propping something that's only displacement. I encountered that bug and put a nodraw func_detail block in which sorted it. 2 things: My skins dont seem to work My collisions dont work, I got a large box offset from my model. __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 08-28-2010 at 10:56 AM.

08-28-2010, 04:17 PM	#40
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Displacements aren't solid. If you need collisions, put in a clip brush. I've noticed that if you have only two skins, it ignores the second one--apparently a logic error on my part--Add a third skin setting (can be the same as the second one) and it should work.

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