smaller viewmodels

beees · 06-21-2013, 06:38 PM

Does anyone have a compilation of smaller viewmodels (or perhaps pushed back on the z-axis)? This'd be nice to have.

WiFiDi · 06-21-2013, 08:31 PM

i hate to say it but wouldn't that give you an unfair advantage over other players.

we can argue over the significance of the advantage but it still an advantage.

the_cake · 06-21-2013, 09:09 PM

You can do r_drawviewmodel 0 anyway so it makes no difference.

FDA_Approved · 06-21-2013, 09:10 PM

I don't really think it'd be an unfair advantage... :/

But as to why people can't conc aim without models is beyond me. Just learn to conc aim and don't try to take the cheap way out.

the_cake · 06-21-2013, 09:16 PM

FF literally shows you where the crosshair actually is, why would you need viewmodels?

FDA_Approved · 06-21-2013, 09:25 PM

Beats me.

**squeek.** · 06-21-2013, 09:46 PM

How could viewmodels even help you concaim?

beees · 06-21-2013, 10:44 PM

For me, the position of the gun as I'm conced gives me an approximation of where my crosshair is. I don't really understand how you can't see that

**squeek.** · 06-21-2013, 10:48 PM

Does it actually correspond? For some reason I didn't think it did. I've never used the viewmodel for any conc-aim related purposes, and I don't feel like I've ever seen anyone suggest that you should (in conc-aim tutorials and whatnot). Maybe I'm just insane.

FDA_Approved · 06-21-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by squeek.

Does it actually correspond? For some reason I didn't think it did. I've never used the viewmodel for any conc-aim related purposes, and I don't feel like I've ever seen anyone suggest that you should (in conc-aim tutorials and whatnot). Maybe I'm just insane.

It doesn't correspond really. The model moves completely independently of your aim. But if you have it set to a freakish view model fov of 150 (like bees does :P) then part way through the conc affect the tip of your model will drift through your xhair. That's all I've been able to figure out in talking to him and looking at it myself.

NeonLight · 06-21-2013, 11:47 PM

Idk... I rely on my weapon model for the first shot of being conced and I've always hit. I tried playing without models a few times last month and it was terrible I couldn't aim at all for a good 2 seconds till I realigned my aim while shooting. I really have no idea if its psychological or if there really is a trend with being conced along with the model.

beees · 06-22-2013, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NeoNL

Idk... I rely on my weapon model for the first shot of being conced and I've always hit. I tried playing without models a few times last month and it was terrible I couldn't aim at all for a good 2 seconds till I realigned my aim while shooting. I really have no idea if its psychological or if there really is a trend with being conced along with the model.

I pretty much went through the same thing. I tried it for 2-3 months and I started giving up trying to shotty anyone while conced.

WiFiDi · 06-26-2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by beees

I pretty much went through the same thing. I tried it for 2-3 months and I started giving up trying to shotty anyone while conced.

wtf you guys can't hit someone while conced. someone hand me my Super shotty.

the old conc system made me sick to stomach i couldn't even look at the screen it was so nauseating. (once or twice when i got conced like 3 or 4 times in a row i actually threw up.)

beees · 06-26-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WiFiDi

wtf you guys can't hit someone while conced. someone hand me my Super shotty.

the old conc system made me sick to stomach i couldn't even look at the screen it was so nauseating. (once or twice when i got conced like 3 or 4 times in a row i actually threw up.)

You misunderstand- without the gun model it was hard to concaim, not that we can't concaim.

FDA_Approved · 06-26-2013, 10:34 PM

And it's only bees/neon.

WiFiDi · 06-27-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by beees

You misunderstand- without the gun model it was hard to concaim, not that we can't concaim.

tbh i don't find it that hard at all and if it were "easy" what would be the point of the conc effect in the first place.

FDA_Approved · 06-27-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WiFiDi

tbh i don't find it that hard at all and if it were "easy" what would be the point of the conc effect in the first place.

He's not saying it's hard. He's saying that for him personally he can't do it with his view models disabled.

I don't see how having view models helps. I personally don't play with viewmodels. But before you go dusting your epeen in his face, (conc-peen, as it were) you should take a step in his shoes. r_drawviewmodels 0

WiFiDi · 06-27-2013, 07:58 PM

now that i get this thread i have one question.

would you do that.

FDA_Approved · 06-27-2013, 10:36 PM

Why disable view models? Because they're distracting and take up a quarter of your view.

beees · 06-28-2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FDA_Approved

Why disable view models? Because they're distracting and take up a quarter of your view.

^This.
Normally I'd play without viewmodels but most other games don't require concaim so smaller models would be really nice

06-21-2013, 06:38 PM	#1
beees Join Date: Jun 2013 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	(Request) smaller viewmodels Does anyone have a compilation of smaller viewmodels (or perhaps pushed back on the z-axis)? This'd be nice to have. Last edited by beees; 07-05-2013 at 05:38 PM. Reason: changed title

06-21-2013, 08:31 PM	#2
WiFiDi Beta Tester Join Date: May 2010 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Capture the Flag is there any other Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	i hate to say it but wouldn't that give you an unfair advantage over other players. we can argue over the significance of the advantage but it still an advantage. __________________ WiFi's Stream Support FF: Failure is always an option. It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!) To make most awesome thing in universe combine Bears and Nicholas Cage! and remember kids, we didn't start the flame-war! Last edited by WiFiDi; 06-21-2013 at 08:32 PM.

06-21-2013, 09:10 PM	#4
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	I don't really think it'd be an unfair advantage... :/ But as to why people can't conc aim without models is beyond me. Just learn to conc aim and don't try to take the cheap way out. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

06-21-2013, 09:25 PM	#6
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	Beats me. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

06-21-2013, 09:46 PM	#7
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	How could viewmodels even help you concaim? __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington Last edited by squeek.; 06-21-2013 at 09:47 PM.

06-21-2013, 09:09 PM	#3
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	You can do r_drawviewmodel 0 anyway so it makes no difference.

06-21-2013, 09:16 PM	#5
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	FF literally shows you where the crosshair actually is, why would you need viewmodels?

06-21-2013, 10:44 PM	#8
beees Join Date: Jun 2013 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	For me, the position of the gun as I'm conced gives me an approximation of where my crosshair is. I don't really understand how you can't see that

06-21-2013, 10:48 PM	#9
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	Does it actually correspond? For some reason I didn't think it did. I've never used the viewmodel for any conc-aim related purposes, and I don't feel like I've ever seen anyone suggest that you should (in conc-aim tutorials and whatnot). Maybe I'm just insane. __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington Last edited by squeek.; 06-21-2013 at 10:52 PM.

06-21-2013, 11:47 PM	#11
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	Idk... I rely on my weapon model for the first shot of being conced and I've always hit. I tried playing without models a few times last month and it was terrible I couldn't aim at all for a good 2 seconds till I realigned my aim while shooting. I really have no idea if its psychological or if there really is a trend with being conced along with the model. __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium

06-26-2013, 10:34 PM	#15
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	And it's only bees/neon. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

06-27-2013, 07:58 PM	#18
WiFiDi Beta Tester Join Date: May 2010 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Capture the Flag is there any other Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	now that i get this thread i have one question. would you do that. __________________ WiFi's Stream Support FF: Failure is always an option. It's a happy massacre?! (yes, yes it is!) To make most awesome thing in universe combine Bears and Nicholas Cage! and remember kids, we didn't start the flame-war! Last edited by WiFiDi; 06-27-2013 at 08:00 PM.

06-27-2013, 10:36 PM	#19
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	Why disable view models? Because they're distracting and take up a quarter of your view. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

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