ffdev roll call

Lynus · 06-26-2014, 03:59 PM

I still think U4E should be given a chance, but ultimately whichever one has the best anti cheat protection is the one I'd side with, at which point I'm not sure.

Regarding having FF2 be a TFC remake versus a completely revamped/restyled fortress game, I was talking to one of the devs recently and they brought up an excellent idea that hopefully comes to fruition: Being able to change the game mode on the fly via matchmaking as Moto pointed out above. ie) Wanna play FF 1.0 mode with no speed hardcap? How about 1.1 with nail grenades versus lasers? Medpack boosts anyone? Sticky grenades? No? Fine you can have 2.46 too, just change the setting when you create a game.

In the beginning however, just so there's not constant discrepancies over what should & shouldn't be done, it would be easier for the devs to all be on the same page to plow through the initial stages. After that, then come together for a meeting of the minds. Just my 2¢

NeonLight · 06-26-2014, 05:01 PM

The problem with that is it segments the community too much. With all the variations of QTF, TFC AND FF... how many versions is that? How many people are playing all those games total right now? Why would they want to play the new version when the old works just fine and they have their structured communities?

You gotta realize people want instant gratification which these skill based arena shooters don't give. Sure it'll probably be popular for a few days/week just like FF was originally then they'll go back to their normal games once they realize its just rehash material.

People want new. Not the same thing. I love FF for what it is, every version of it but I'd rather see a new, evolved version of it with modernized (to some extent) play at this point. I would bet any amount it would get more players that way.

FDA_Approved · 06-26-2014, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voss

The problem with that is it segments the community too much.

XPelargos · 06-26-2014, 08:20 PM

To be fair, our horrible personalities do a good enough job of that as it is, FDA.

XPelargos · 06-26-2014, 08:34 PM

To address Aftershock's point about an intuitive movement system, I'm trying to think of games that have movement that is not Bunnyhop based.

Tribes: Skiing and Jetpacks
Warsow: Wall Jumping (In addition to BHop)

Beyond that, my mind is blanking.

Any thoughts?

NeonLight · 06-26-2014, 08:38 PM

Quake 4 Crouch Sliding (Addition to strafe jumping)
Titanfall Wall Running
Tribes Vengeance had a Grapple hook

XPelargos · 06-26-2014, 11:42 PM

Scout double jump in TF2
Medic quickfix assist jump in TF2
Recon dashjump in Neotokyo
Skrull movement on walls and ceilings in Natural selection
Flying alien and jetpack in Natural Selection.

homie in reboks' · 06-27-2014, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPelargos

To address Aftershock's point about an intuitive movement system, I'm trying to think of games that have movement that is not Bunnyhop based.

Tribes: Skiing and Jetpacks
Warsow: Wall Jumping (In addition to BHop)

Beyond that, my mind is blanking.

Any thoughts?

You can use ninja rope in Worms Revolution.

XPelargos · 06-27-2014, 02:11 AM

How many more posts until we realize Spy needs a grapple hook?

06-26-2014, 03:59 PM	#1
Lynus I like Ceyx Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MI Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	I still think U4E should be given a chance, but ultimately whichever one has the best anti cheat protection is the one I'd side with, at which point I'm not sure. Regarding having FF2 be a TFC remake versus a completely revamped/restyled fortress game, I was talking to one of the devs recently and they brought up an excellent idea that hopefully comes to fruition: Being able to change the game mode on the fly via matchmaking as Moto pointed out above. ie) Wanna play FF 1.0 mode with no speed hardcap? How about 1.1 with nail grenades versus lasers? Medpack boosts anyone? Sticky grenades? No? Fine you can have 2.46 too, just change the setting when you create a game. In the beginning however, just so there's not constant discrepancies over what should & shouldn't be done, it would be easier for the devs to all be on the same page to plow through the initial stages. After that, then come together for a meeting of the minds. Just my 2¢ __________________ hef Last edited by Lynus; 06-26-2014 at 03:59 PM.

06-26-2014, 05:01 PM	#2
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	The problem with that is it segments the community too much. With all the variations of QTF, TFC AND FF... how many versions is that? How many people are playing all those games total right now? Why would they want to play the new version when the old works just fine and they have their structured communities? You gotta realize people want instant gratification which these skill based arena shooters don't give. Sure it'll probably be popular for a few days/week just like FF was originally then they'll go back to their normal games once they realize its just rehash material. People want new. Not the same thing. I love FF for what it is, every version of it but I'd rather see a new, evolved version of it with modernized (to some extent) play at this point. I would bet any amount it would get more players that way. __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium Last edited by NeonLight; 06-26-2014 at 05:01 PM.
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06-26-2014, 08:38 PM	#6
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	Quake 4 Crouch Sliding (Addition to strafe jumping) Titanfall Wall Running Tribes Vengeance had a Grapple hook __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium Last edited by NeonLight; 06-26-2014 at 08:40 PM.

06-26-2014, 08:20 PM	#4
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	To be fair, our horrible personalities do a good enough job of that as it is, FDA.

06-26-2014, 08:34 PM	#5
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	To address Aftershock's point about an intuitive movement system, I'm trying to think of games that have movement that is not Bunnyhop based. Tribes: Skiing and Jetpacks Warsow: Wall Jumping (In addition to BHop) Beyond that, my mind is blanking. Any thoughts?

06-26-2014, 11:42 PM	#7
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	Scout double jump in TF2 Medic quickfix assist jump in TF2 Recon dashjump in Neotokyo Skrull movement on walls and ceilings in Natural selection Flying alien and jetpack in Natural Selection.

06-27-2014, 02:11 AM	#9
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	How many more posts until we realize Spy needs a grapple hook?

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