Subtle Ownage about Religion

o_loader · 02-02-2007, 04:07 AM

http://www.heaven666.org/atheist-delusion-3843.php

^^ Ignore the porn links..

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 04:22 AM

It's funny but unfortunate, because a lot of people believe that shit.

o_uber · 02-02-2007, 04:30 AM

The author misinterprets the notion of faith.

o_geokill-----> · 02-02-2007, 04:31 AM

This is way to exaggerated right? lol

o_jinx · 02-02-2007, 07:40 AM

I think there's plenty of room for a person to have faith, but not be blind to fact and science. Yeah, some of it contradicts... but a truly spiritual person can live with that. And guess what? A lot of scientists are religious as well.

Strangely, it was a science class that made me believe that there might be a god. It involved the origins of the universe, and the analysis of this professor was that planets like ours are more common than we might think. As he put it: "it's almost as if the universe was made for life". That struck me as truly profound, because it really does point toward something setting the universe up for us in a very complex way.

When I think of God, I don't think of someone who just *poof* makes stuff appear. I think of a being so brilliant that when it set the universe in motion, with a single act, it did so with a plan which that one act would set into motion. Now that is brilliance.

Oh, and for more funny stuff:
Colbert Interviews Congressman Who Wants the Ten Commandments Displayed In House & Senate.

What's sad is that I'm agnostic and I can get more than than Westmoreland could...

o_yomamashouse · 02-02-2007, 01:14 PM

I am definitely with Jinx on this one. I am not faithful but I think that the idea of a God in the most general sense is quite reasonable. My Biology teacher addressed someone who asked the question of how he could believe in god and still be a biologist with a PHD and he said something about how we can dissect an animal and learn all there is to know about it but even with all that we cannot give it life. All the parts are there but something is missing which is beyond our comprehension.

That and reading books on theoretical physics by one Stephen Hawking. The major turning point in my going from Atheist to Agnostic was learning that the universe is not infinite in time or space.

With all that said it is still pompous to believe human affairs are important on the mind of god or at least more important relative to other creatures. We are made of the same stuff they are and follow the same rules of life they do.

o_paft · 02-02-2007, 01:17 PM

Quote:

"so atheist's, who exactly is the deluded one here?"

He is.

Anyway there is no solid proof either way. My dad (who I haven't spoken to in 8 years) is a science tutor so what do you think my views on the matter are?

o_yomamashouse · 02-02-2007, 01:22 PM

Hehe you're a quick one aren't ya.

o_paft · 02-02-2007, 01:24 PM

But me personally I don't think I want a afterlife to in theory continue living forever, so I don't really care how the universe begun.

o_ekim · 02-02-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinx

As he put it: "it's almost as if the universe was made for life".

What a coincidence that the universe we live in is suited to life.

o_jinx · 02-02-2007, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekiM

What a coincidence that the universe we live in is suited to life.

No, he meant it as in we probably aren't just a "happy coincidence", and that there are probably other planets similar with life on them out there.

I agree, to think that humans are so special that everything revolves around us (which people thought quite literally for a while lol) or was made for our consumption is the height of arrogance.

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinx

No, he meant it as in we probably aren't just a "happy coincidence", and that there are probably other planets similar with life on them out there.

See Ekims post again. It's stupid to believe that in all the billions of galaxies ours is the only planet. The conditions are just right for us, it only makes sense that it happened again somewhere else.

If a God wanted there to be life in the universe, why not make life on every planet? Why put life so far away from one another? Because it's a happy coincidence that the conditions were right in this exact spot.

o_jinx · 02-02-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ()))Crayola))_>

See Ekims post again. It's stupid to believe that in all the billions of galaxies ours is the only planet. The conditions are just right for us, it only makes sense that it happened again somewhere else.

Yeah, I sort of see what you mean.

o_loader · 02-02-2007, 07:19 PM

The video just takes the piss out of the bible.

Why are we here? Because the bible says so!

o_sh4x · 02-02-2007, 08:15 PM

The guy completely destroyed atheists!

Burn atheists!! viva el bible!!!

I BELEAVE IN GESUS!!

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 09:34 PM

Wow Sh4x, shit on our conversation there why don't ya.

o_nuk3m · 02-02-2007, 09:45 PM

i dont believe in god, but i think religion is a good thing because it gives people something to believe in and gives them hope, people who need hope, wouldnt be the same without religion

Circuitous · 02-02-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekiM

What a coincidence that the universe we live in is suited to life.

Right?

The person who is the result if near impossible circumstances always wants to think there was a reason behind it all. Being the luck of the draw isn't much fun. Doesn't mean he's wrong to believe so, of course.

o_yomamashouse · 02-02-2007, 11:24 PM

They are wrong to believe it if they don't have anything to back it up.

Circuitous · 02-02-2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoMamasHouse

They are wrong to believe it if they don't have anything to back it up.

Right?

02-02-2007, 04:07 AM	#1
o_loader Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portsmouth, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Subtle Ownage about Religion http://www.heaven666.org/atheist-delusion-3843.php ^^ Ignore the porn links..

02-02-2007, 01:14 PM	#6
o_yomamashouse Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Your Mamas House Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I am definitely with Jinx on this one. I am not faithful but I think that the idea of a God in the most general sense is quite reasonable. My Biology teacher addressed someone who asked the question of how he could believe in god and still be a biologist with a PHD and he said something about how we can dissect an animal and learn all there is to know about it but even with all that we cannot give it life. All the parts are there but something is missing which is beyond our comprehension. That and reading books on theoretical physics by one Stephen Hawking. The major turning point in my going from Atheist to Agnostic was learning that the universe is not infinite in time or space. With all that said it is still pompous to believe human affairs are important on the mind of god or at least more important relative to other creatures. We are made of the same stuff they are and follow the same rules of life they do. Last edited by o_yomamashouse; 02-02-2007 at 03:50 PM.

02-02-2007, 04:22 AM	#2
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's funny but unfortunate, because a lot of people believe that shit.

02-02-2007, 04:30 AM	#3
o_uber Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The author misinterprets the notion of faith.

02-02-2007, 04:31 AM	#4
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	This is way to exaggerated right? lol

02-02-2007, 07:40 AM	#5
o_jinx Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ohio Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think there's plenty of room for a person to have faith, but not be blind to fact and science. Yeah, some of it contradicts... but a truly spiritual person can live with that. And guess what? A lot of scientists are religious as well. Strangely, it was a science class that made me believe that there might be a god. It involved the origins of the universe, and the analysis of this professor was that planets like ours are more common than we might think. As he put it: "it's almost as if the universe was made for life". That struck me as truly profound, because it really does point toward something setting the universe up for us in a very complex way. When I think of God, I don't think of someone who just poof makes stuff appear. I think of a being so brilliant that when it set the universe in motion, with a single act, it did so with a plan which that one act would set into motion. Now that is brilliance. Oh, and for more funny stuff: Colbert Interviews Congressman Who Wants the Ten Commandments Displayed In House & Senate. What's sad is that I'm agnostic and I can get more than than Westmoreland could...

02-02-2007, 01:22 PM	#8
o_yomamashouse Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Your Mamas House Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hehe you're a quick one aren't ya.

02-02-2007, 01:24 PM	#9
o_paft Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	But me personally I don't think I want a afterlife to in theory continue living forever, so I don't really care how the universe begun.

02-02-2007, 07:19 PM	#14
o_loader Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portsmouth, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The video just takes the piss out of the bible. Why are we here? Because the bible says so!

02-02-2007, 08:15 PM	#15
o_sh4x Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The guy completely destroyed atheists! Burn atheists!! viva el bible!!! I BELEAVE IN GESUS!!

02-02-2007, 09:34 PM	#16
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wow Sh4x, shit on our conversation there why don't ya.

02-02-2007, 09:45 PM	#17
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i dont believe in god, but i think religion is a good thing because it gives people something to believe in and gives them hope, people who need hope, wouldnt be the same without religion

02-02-2007, 11:24 PM	#19
o_yomamashouse Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Your Mamas House Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	They are wrong to believe it if they don't have anything to back it up.

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