Nutty map ideas

o_crazy carl · 04-25-2006, 04:32 PM

Back in my TFC days I used to come up with some pretty weird map objectives. Some remained just as ideas, but some I actually began building. They might not have been any fun or even have worked, but I thought they were at least interesting.

camp:
Pretty simple objective: camp the enemy's respawn. The map has no flags, so for each enemy player you kill coming out of the respawn, your team gets a point. Once a player gets outside the respawn area, there's no score for killing him.

non-violent CTF:
For every enemy you frag, your team loses a point. Normal CTF rules apply. I originally just wanted to mod 2fort to do this, but I couldn't find a way to make the scoring work (Suicides obviously couldn't count as kills)

Double Hunted:
Two civilians, two bodyguard teams. If both civilians make it to the safe point, they go into an arena alone and fight to the death with their umbrellas!

Offensive hunted:
Like a hunted map, but there's no safe point. The president gets points by moving around the map. The riskier the area, The more points awarded.

collect 4:
Four flags, rather like flagrun, but the capture points were scattered about the base. I actually finished this map and playtested it, but entity bug was discovered during the test that made the flags disappear

. The testers also seemed really confused as to the map objective. I thought it was simple enough. Maybe they didn't read the map text?

scud
A CTF map, where a cap resulting in your shooting a missile at the enemy base. However, if you kept control of a tower in the center of the map, you could shoot down the missile and prevent a score. I built a map like this but it ended up getting really big and out of hand. I ended upi recycling the bases for another map.

scorched earth
a dustbowl-type A/D map. The difference is that the defense has the ability to destroy their respawns and ammo bags before the offense captures them. They have to be careful not to do this too early, though.

Double attackers
An A/D map where two teams each try to score against a third defensive team. Will the attackers fight each other or work together to wear down the defensive team?

What do you think of these ideas? If you've got any of your own share them!

Circuitous · 04-25-2006, 05:18 PM

camp: sounds really annoying.

non-violent CTF: wah? Certainly interesting but I don't know if it'd catch on. What'd be the point of defense?

double hunted: Nezumi is/was working on a map like this, except without the fight to the death thingy. Sounds fun.

offensive hunted: interesting, but no real sense of accomplishment.

collect 4: what, like cz2?

scud: sounds familiar.

scorched earth: also sounds familiar, but they may have just been leaving a detpack in the spawn before a point was captured.

double attackers: probably the most interesting of the lot.

o_ekse · 04-25-2006, 05:48 PM

"camp" sounds fun

it would need a good map layout though (respawns especially). only frag-grenades. and a rule, that if you stay longer than 5s inside your respawn, you die and lose points ...

o_zydell · 04-25-2006, 06:36 PM

Dunno about you but I played the game camp a lot already, just didnt get points for it :'(

o_crazy carl · 04-25-2006, 10:29 PM

camp really more of a statement than a map I would expect to catch on. The idea is to take an activity that is normally considered griefing and make it an officially sanctioned activity. I think it could be fun, though, if the level were designed right.

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

non-violent CTF: wah? Certainly interesting but I don't know if it'd catch on. What'd be the point of defense?

In theory, if you could prevent a cap with fewer than ten frags, it would be worth defending. You'd probably want to just exclusively target the flag carrier. In practice you'd probably end up with some noobs who refuse to stop fragging and they'd ruin the whole thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous

collect 4: what, like cz2?

No, there are four flags total. Both teams can pick them up. The point is to take the flags over to your side, plant them, and keep them from being stolen back.

o_nezumi · 04-25-2006, 10:49 PM

That sounds like flagrun.

That double attackers thing sounds fun though. I've always wanted to see a 4-way ctf map also.

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

double hunted: Nezumi is/was working on a map like this

I was making one where there are 2 VIPs and each has a team of bodyguards. The VIP could be any class though. Instead of trying to run to the end zone or whatever each VIP was just trying to outlast the other. A huge bonus would be awarded to the VIP and his team if the VIP actually managed to kill the enemy VIP himself. I actually got all this to work with entities in TFC, except the bonus if a VIP gets the kill. Aparently this will be no problem with LUA.

Circuitous · 04-26-2006, 12:00 AM

Like flagrun? That pretty much IS flagrun. The only way it'd be different is what he said about the cap points being scattered around.

o_yoshura · 04-26-2006, 01:00 AM

everything but the camp....

o_donny · 04-29-2006, 06:21 PM

I have played few times that remind me on the camp idea. And it wasnt fun playing the respawn team...

o_mj · 05-05-2006, 05:14 AM

i hope the entity system is very flexible so these game types are possible..

o_fresh · 05-05-2006, 08:57 AM

I always liked the idea of having a classic CTF style gameplay but without flags, instead there are 2 hunder an each team. The bases would be killer hard to infintrate and the hunted would hide in the safest place or move around depending on the comms. 10 points for each hunted kill.

o_player · 05-05-2006, 10:34 AM

That would be a bit like Murderball then, always fun

o_rifle · 05-06-2006, 02:47 AM

Those are some preety crazy ideas but I like them.

o_crazy carl · 05-09-2006, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fresh

I always liked the idea of having a classic CTF style gameplay but without flags, instead there are 2 hunder an each team. The bases would be killer hard to infintrate and the hunted would hide in the safest place or move around depending on the comms. 10 points for each hunted kill.

That's actually where my idea for aggressive hunted came from. I decided it wouldn't be much fun to just hide in your own base, so I had to find a way to force the VIP to move around

o_carnifex · 05-09-2006, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy carl

That's actually where my idea for aggressive hunted came from. I decided it wouldn't be much fun to just hide in your own base, so I had to find a way to force the VIP to move around

Maybe there could be a timer on the camping, if the VIP camps for over 30 seconds in one place without moving, for like 1-2 minutes in between, he dies and the other team gets 10 points

just an idea

*edit*
not the most realistic feature tho

Circuitous · 05-09-2006, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnifex

Maybe there could be a timer on the camping, if the VIP camps for over 30 seconds in one place without moving, for like 1-2 minutes in between, he dies and the other team gets 10 points

just an idea

*edit*
not the most realistic feature tho

A bomb is attached to a heart rate monitor that was surgically implanted by the other team, he has to keep his heart rate up (by running/moving around) or he dies.

You could make a cool heartbeat HUD icon using LUA!

o_theres *nothing* here · 05-10-2006, 12:09 AM

give one team quad damage, and two other teams have to team up to beat them!

or, on eguy with quad, and lots of hp, and the first team to kill him wins the round, or flag cap, etc.

o_etzell · 05-10-2006, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous

A bomb is attached to a heart rate monitor that was surgically implanted by the other team, he has to keep his heart rate up (by running/moving around) or he dies.

You could make a cool heartbeat HUD icon using LUA!

Sounds dumb. If they can do surgery on him to implant a HRM, why not just kill the fucker, instead of giving him a chance. Sounds like Hunted is a James Bond map.

Circuitous · 05-10-2006, 08:40 PM

Running from a cage to a parked car only to be teleported back sounds dumb too, but eh.

o_imbrifer · 06-09-2006, 07:42 AM

Score one for Circ...

I like the Camp idea... mind if I give a go at making it in a while?

I'd make like 3 or 4 exits to each spawn, and make two of them exit into the same room, then the third exits upstairs or a short distance away, so the camping team has to spread itself out a bit. Maybe if there was a certain number of players, some of the doors would lock (DEVS: is this possible?). Points would be scored for each minute a team is kept from leaving its spawn area. 'twould be a small map, and im thinking a rocky ridge in a desert or on an orange planet..

My initial criticisms are that it could get boring really quick if one team gets a good setup.. maybe after camping it successfully for 5 points, the successful team gets a round bonus of 10 and is teleported back to their spawn, and everyone starts from scratch?

04-25-2006, 04:32 PM	#1
o_crazy carl Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nutty map ideas Back in my TFC days I used to come up with some pretty weird map objectives. Some remained just as ideas, but some I actually began building. They might not have been any fun or even have worked, but I thought they were at least interesting. camp: Pretty simple objective: camp the enemy's respawn. The map has no flags, so for each enemy player you kill coming out of the respawn, your team gets a point. Once a player gets outside the respawn area, there's no score for killing him. non-violent CTF: For every enemy you frag, your team loses a point. Normal CTF rules apply. I originally just wanted to mod 2fort to do this, but I couldn't find a way to make the scoring work (Suicides obviously couldn't count as kills) Double Hunted: Two civilians, two bodyguard teams. If both civilians make it to the safe point, they go into an arena alone and fight to the death with their umbrellas! Offensive hunted: Like a hunted map, but there's no safe point. The president gets points by moving around the map. The riskier the area, The more points awarded. collect 4: Four flags, rather like flagrun, but the capture points were scattered about the base. I actually finished this map and playtested it, but entity bug was discovered during the test that made the flags disappear . The testers also seemed really confused as to the map objective. I thought it was simple enough. Maybe they didn't read the map text? scud A CTF map, where a cap resulting in your shooting a missile at the enemy base. However, if you kept control of a tower in the center of the map, you could shoot down the missile and prevent a score. I built a map like this but it ended up getting really big and out of hand. I ended upi recycling the bases for another map. scorched earth a dustbowl-type A/D map. The difference is that the defense has the ability to destroy their respawns and ammo bags before the offense captures them. They have to be careful not to do this too early, though. Double attackers An A/D map where two teams each try to score against a third defensive team. Will the attackers fight each other or work together to wear down the defensive team? What do you think of these ideas? If you've got any of your own share them!

04-25-2006, 05:18 PM	#2
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	camp: sounds really annoying. non-violent CTF: wah? Certainly interesting but I don't know if it'd catch on. What'd be the point of defense? double hunted: Nezumi is/was working on a map like this, except without the fight to the death thingy. Sounds fun. offensive hunted: interesting, but no real sense of accomplishment. collect 4: what, like cz2? scud: sounds familiar. scorched earth: also sounds familiar, but they may have just been leaving a detpack in the spawn before a point was captured. double attackers: probably the most interesting of the lot. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

04-26-2006, 12:00 AM	#7
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Like flagrun? That pretty much IS flagrun. The only way it'd be different is what he said about the cap points being scattered around. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-10-2006, 08:40 PM	#19
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Running from a cage to a parked car only to be teleported back sounds dumb too, but eh. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

04-25-2006, 05:48 PM	#3
o_ekse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	"camp" sounds fun it would need a good map layout though (respawns especially). only frag-grenades. and a rule, that if you stay longer than 5s inside your respawn, you die and lose points ...

04-25-2006, 06:36 PM	#4
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Dunno about you but I played the game camp a lot already, just didnt get points for it :'(

04-26-2006, 01:00 AM	#8
o_yoshura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	everything but the camp....

04-29-2006, 06:21 PM	#9
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I have played few times that remind me on the camp idea. And it wasnt fun playing the respawn team...

05-05-2006, 05:14 AM	#10
o_mj Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i hope the entity system is very flexible so these game types are possible..

05-05-2006, 08:57 AM	#11
o_fresh Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brum. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I always liked the idea of having a classic CTF style gameplay but without flags, instead there are 2 hunder an each team. The bases would be killer hard to infintrate and the hunted would hide in the safest place or move around depending on the comms. 10 points for each hunted kill.

05-05-2006, 10:34 AM	#12
o_player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That would be a bit like Murderball then, always fun

05-06-2006, 02:47 AM	#13
o_rifle Join Date: May 2006 Location: could you give me directions Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Those are some preety crazy ideas but I like them.

05-10-2006, 12:09 AM	#17
o_theres nothing here Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	give one team quad damage, and two other teams have to team up to beat them! or, on eguy with quad, and lots of hp, and the first team to kill him wins the round, or flag cap, etc.

06-09-2006, 07:42 AM	#20
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Score one for Circ... I like the Camp idea... mind if I give a go at making it in a while? I'd make like 3 or 4 exits to each spawn, and make two of them exit into the same room, then the third exits upstairs or a short distance away, so the camping team has to spread itself out a bit. Maybe if there was a certain number of players, some of the doors would lock (DEVS: is this possible?). Points would be scored for each minute a team is kept from leaving its spawn area. 'twould be a small map, and im thinking a rocky ridge in a desert or on an orange planet.. My initial criticisms are that it could get boring really quick if one team gets a good setup.. maybe after camping it successfully for 5 points, the successful team gets a round bonus of 10 and is teleported back to their spawn, and everyone starts from scratch?

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