water woes

omega · 12-01-2005, 05:35 AM

#2

there should be a ceiling/wall in the first shot (as labeled), and in the second one as well, which should be easily noticable. but instead of a wall, it shows the stuff that should be behind the wall. it compiles with no errors or leaks or anything, so I'm not sure whats up. I'm guessing it has something to do with what face of the brush I put "nodraw" on?

once i fix this problem, I'll probably release some pictures of the [almost] complete 2mesa interior. as much as i would like a wallhack, it doesn't pose as much of an advantage if everyone can use it

o_ambex · 12-01-2005, 06:15 AM

I like your name

o_stino · 12-01-2005, 11:01 AM

leak in your map?
i had some leaks in badlands without getting errors of the compiler, but with horrible lighting :s

o_kam · 12-01-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by omegay

it compiles with no errors or leaks or anything

If nodraw is on the face you're looking at, then yes that'd be the problem. Otherwise try remaking the brush...

omega · 12-01-2005, 05:33 PM

well, the problem is its a tunnel that connects to two other bodies of water, so when I'm putting in the brush, I'm not sure what face to apply the nodraws/water texture too. you shouldn't be looking at the surface of the water anywhere on the brush, so with that logic, i guess it should be "nodraw", but at the same time, if the entire brush is nodraw, how do you indicate it as a water brush?

o_sh4x · 12-01-2005, 06:12 PM

water is done by applying nodraw on every surface of your brush exept the upper one which has to be a water texture. It's very simple really.

Select the brush, then click on texture tool, then browse nodraw texture, click apply, then browse water texture, click on the top surface of your brush with the right mouse button et voila!

omega · 12-01-2005, 06:38 PM

hmmm, well i did that and I still get the wallhack-esque ceiling. i guess i'll try recreating the brushes.

omega · 12-01-2005, 09:36 PM

yeah, that didnt work

o_fisheye · 12-01-2005, 10:49 PM

it could be that the tube made from the texture with transparant holes is actually a vis blocking material(like most of them), and is blocking the wall behind it from being rendered. the room in the backgound is being rendered because vis can see into it through whatever connection the two areas have.

make the tube walls as func details, or open a space in them.
maybe find somewhere to put a func_areaportal too, to stop that room being rendered when you don't need it to be.

o_stino · 12-02-2005, 02:43 PM

you mean that your water is going trough a u-shaped tunnel?

_ _
|_|_|_|
|_____|

donno how to do that

omega · 12-02-2005, 04:49 PM

i made the grate-like brush a func_detail like fisheye said, and that actually fixed one part (in the second screenshot), but the first screenshot is still doing the same thing.

and then tunnel isnt a U, its like a basic straight tunnel connecting to different other bodies of water.

o_ivaqual · 12-02-2005, 05:00 PM

I can't remember what are exactly the limitations, but bodies of water at different heights, etc.. are buggy / don't work in Source (that may only apply to expensive water, but better be safe).

Quote:

basic straight tunnel connecting to different other bodies of water.

Sounds like good ground for bugs to appear. Try having only a single body of water.

12-01-2005, 05:35 AM	#1
omega Retired FF Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	water woes why is this happening why is this happening #2 there should be a ceiling/wall in the first shot (as labeled), and in the second one as well, which should be easily noticable. but instead of a wall, it shows the stuff that should be behind the wall. it compiles with no errors or leaks or anything, so I'm not sure whats up. I'm guessing it has something to do with what face of the brush I put "nodraw" on? once i fix this problem, I'll probably release some pictures of the [almost] complete 2mesa interior. as much as i would like a wallhack, it doesn't pose as much of an advantage if everyone can use it

12-01-2005, 06:15 AM	#2
o_ambex Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I like your name

12-01-2005, 11:01 AM	#3
o_stino Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	leak in your map? i had some leaks in badlands without getting errors of the compiler, but with horrible lighting :s

12-01-2005, 05:33 PM	#5
omega Retired FF Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	well, the problem is its a tunnel that connects to two other bodies of water, so when I'm putting in the brush, I'm not sure what face to apply the nodraws/water texture too. you shouldn't be looking at the surface of the water anywhere on the brush, so with that logic, i guess it should be "nodraw", but at the same time, if the entire brush is nodraw, how do you indicate it as a water brush?

12-01-2005, 06:12 PM	#6
o_sh4x Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	water is done by applying nodraw on every surface of your brush exept the upper one which has to be a water texture. It's very simple really. Select the brush, then click on texture tool, then browse nodraw texture, click apply, then browse water texture, click on the top surface of your brush with the right mouse button et voila!

12-01-2005, 06:38 PM	#7
omega Retired FF Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hmmm, well i did that and I still get the wallhack-esque ceiling. i guess i'll try recreating the brushes.

12-01-2005, 09:36 PM	#8
omega Retired FF Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah, that didnt work

12-01-2005, 10:49 PM	#9
o_fisheye Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	it could be that the tube made from the texture with transparant holes is actually a vis blocking material(like most of them), and is blocking the wall behind it from being rendered. the room in the backgound is being rendered because vis can see into it through whatever connection the two areas have. make the tube walls as func details, or open a space in them. maybe find somewhere to put a func_areaportal too, to stop that room being rendered when you don't need it to be.

12-02-2005, 02:43 PM	#10
o_stino Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	you mean that your water is going trough a u-shaped tunnel? _ _ \|_\|_\|_\| \|_____\| donno how to do that

12-02-2005, 04:49 PM	#11
omega Retired FF Staff Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i made the grate-like brush a func_detail like fisheye said, and that actually fixed one part (in the second screenshot), but the first screenshot is still doing the same thing. and then tunnel isnt a U, its like a basic straight tunnel connecting to different other bodies of water.

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