Will FF support 64 players?

o_footlong · 06-28-2005, 06:57 PM

Hmm, I had a look around and searched the forums and didn't see the answer to this. Seeing as how the Source engine is capable of handling 64 players (nevermind the obvious gameplay issues in a fortress mod with that many people), I was simply wondering if this was an option at all. On some maps, having a large number of people could be beneficial and quite interesting. Some of the more popular games of today feature this capability and I'm thinking it could help FF's popularity if it too could support larger games.

o_kayuni · 06-28-2005, 07:02 PM

Hunted would kick ass with standard limitations. 5 Snipers. 1 Civilian. 58 Bodyguards.

If 64-player is supported, someone should make a huge map with at least 5 routes to the flag. That would be a fun map.

o_jared-tm- · 06-28-2005, 07:19 PM

Mm, 64 player a/d sounds interesting to me!

o_mookette · 06-28-2005, 08:43 PM

64 will be realy amazing

but i think hl² dont suport more than 32 without damn/ugly/omfg lag

o_footlong · 06-28-2005, 09:34 PM

If you find a potent enough server, CS:S with 64 people runs fine.

o_kamakazi · 06-28-2005, 09:53 PM

I used to think about stuff like this when I was playing TFC. With an appropriate map, it would actually be pretty sweet.

o_eat · 06-28-2005, 09:56 PM

I don't think we will actually stop server admins making 64 player servers but the gameplay will be terrible on conventional maps with that many people. If you had bigger maps made for this number of players it could be interesting but the team has no plans to accomodate 64 player maps.

Buy BF2 - its an absolutely fantastic game, and the gameplay is actually based around huge numbers of people playing together. Some of the battles are simply insane - attacking a village with 5 guys dropping out of a helicopter to take out some dug in tanks and stuff like that. The maps are incredibly well made considering the scale. Buy it!

o_kayuni · 06-28-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eat

Buy BF2 - its an absolutely fantastic game, and the gameplay is actually based around huge numbers of people playing together. Some of the battles are simply insane - attacking a village with 5 guys dropping out of a helicopter to take out some dug in tanks and stuff like that. The maps are incredibly well made considering the scale. Buy it!

[/salespitch] :P I never liked the Battlefield series, and I get terrible lag in BF2. Technically you could just resize everything in 2fort to 400%. Sure the textures would be ugly, the walls would be 40 feet tall, etc., but the map could accomodate 64 people easily.

o_thedarkone · 06-29-2005, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayuni

Hunted would kick ass with standard limitations. 5 Snipers. 1 Civilian. 58 Bodyguards.

If 64-player is supported, someone should make a huge map with at least 5 routes to the flag. That would be a fun map.

And yet the team ignored my idea of proportional team/class restrictions. :P

o_jerm · 06-29-2005, 02:55 AM

are you stupid or something?

have you ever seen the amount of spam in even a 10v10 game

honestly

o_kayuni · 06-29-2005, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jerm

are you stupid or something?

have you ever seen the amount of spam in even a 10v10 game

honestly

In a map designed with wide chokepoints, and large rooms overall, spam wouldn't be as much of an issue. Granted, you'd have your idiots who feel the need to lob all their grenades into a room before entering, but for the most part mappers could counteract that.

o_jerm · 06-29-2005, 03:28 AM

I would love to see an intense deathmatching between two teams of 32 being supported by peoples computers

most computers have trouble handleing the city of Ironforge in World of Warcraft.

Which has avout 50 people sitting around in open areas.

This is a game that uses models for people and stuff but most of the graphics are sprites.

Think of the half life 2 engine. You'd need a good computer to handle 64 players

o_kayuni · 06-29-2005, 03:30 AM

Point taken. I lag slightly even in large open areas with one or two people in them, I guess it's because my system sucks right now. Can't wait 'til I get the last $1,000.

o_beavis · 06-29-2005, 04:48 AM

These maps aren't designed for 64 people. It just wouldn't work.

o_xstioph · 06-29-2005, 05:45 AM

What ya guys talking about... Resizing the maps... No no, just add another "fort" to each map :P Imagine the mayhem on the bridge @ 4fort....

o_kayuni · 06-29-2005, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Xstioph

What ya guys talking about... Resizing the maps... No no, just add another "fort" to each map :P Imagine the mayhem on the bridge @ 4fort....

4fort would rock, especially if your team was a bunch of lame campers and the 3 other teams kept rushing you as a group. :P

o_happy time harry · 06-29-2005, 05:54 AM

12v12 is high enough for me.

Defrag · 06-29-2005, 06:43 AM

32 player maps is the current maximum, but it could go higher if we make some huge AD maps.

Also, don't buy BF2. I bought it and it won't even let me play anything but SP (attempting to join a server either lags me or and disconnects my internet, or gives me a connection error [all firewall ports are forwarded etc..]).

There's a lot of bugs and problems with the GUI & Server browser. I'd personally wait until they patch it, then buy it. Pile of shite.

o_kayuni · 06-29-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Defrag

Also, don't buy BF2. I bought it and it won't even let me play anything but SP (attempting to join a server either lags me or and disconnects my internet, or gives me a connection error [all firewall ports are forwarded etc..]).

There's a lot of bugs and problems with the GUI & Server browser. I'd personally wait until they patch it, then buy it. Pile of shite.

Woohoo, some negativiity about BF2!

mirvin_monkey · 06-29-2005, 07:42 AM

i enjoyed the BF2 demo but i'm not going to get the full game until most of the problems people have been complaining about are fixed

06-28-2005, 06:57 PM	#1
o_footlong Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NYC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Will FF support 64 players? Hmm, I had a look around and searched the forums and didn't see the answer to this. Seeing as how the Source engine is capable of handling 64 players (nevermind the obvious gameplay issues in a fortress mod with that many people), I was simply wondering if this was an option at all. On some maps, having a large number of people could be beneficial and quite interesting. Some of the more popular games of today feature this capability and I'm thinking it could help FF's popularity if it too could support larger games.

06-29-2005, 06:43 AM	#18
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	32 player maps is the current maximum, but it could go higher if we make some huge AD maps. Also, don't buy BF2. I bought it and it won't even let me play anything but SP (attempting to join a server either lags me or and disconnects my internet, or gives me a connection error [all firewall ports are forwarded etc..]). There's a lot of bugs and problems with the GUI & Server browser. I'd personally wait until they patch it, then buy it. Pile of shite. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

06-28-2005, 07:02 PM	#2
o_kayuni Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hunted would kick ass with standard limitations. 5 Snipers. 1 Civilian. 58 Bodyguards. If 64-player is supported, someone should make a huge map with at least 5 routes to the flag. That would be a fun map.

06-28-2005, 07:19 PM	#3
o_jared-tm- Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Mm, 64 player a/d sounds interesting to me!

06-28-2005, 08:43 PM	#4
o_mookette Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	64 will be realy amazing but i think hl² dont suport more than 32 without damn/ugly/omfg lag

06-28-2005, 09:34 PM	#5
o_footlong Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NYC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If you find a potent enough server, CS:S with 64 people runs fine.

06-28-2005, 09:53 PM	#6
o_kamakazi Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Durham, NC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I used to think about stuff like this when I was playing TFC. With an appropriate map, it would actually be pretty sweet.

06-28-2005, 09:56 PM	#7
o_eat Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't think we will actually stop server admins making 64 player servers but the gameplay will be terrible on conventional maps with that many people. If you had bigger maps made for this number of players it could be interesting but the team has no plans to accomodate 64 player maps. Buy BF2 - its an absolutely fantastic game, and the gameplay is actually based around huge numbers of people playing together. Some of the battles are simply insane - attacking a village with 5 guys dropping out of a helicopter to take out some dug in tanks and stuff like that. The maps are incredibly well made considering the scale. Buy it!

06-29-2005, 02:55 AM	#10
o_jerm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Aotearoa, New Zealand Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	are you stupid or something? have you ever seen the amount of spam in even a 10v10 game honestly

06-29-2005, 03:28 AM	#12
o_jerm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Aotearoa, New Zealand Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I would love to see an intense deathmatching between two teams of 32 being supported by peoples computers most computers have trouble handleing the city of Ironforge in World of Warcraft. Which has avout 50 people sitting around in open areas. This is a game that uses models for people and stuff but most of the graphics are sprites. Think of the half life 2 engine. You'd need a good computer to handle 64 players

06-29-2005, 03:30 AM	#13
o_kayuni Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Point taken. I lag slightly even in large open areas with one or two people in them, I guess it's because my system sucks right now. Can't wait 'til I get the last $1,000.

06-29-2005, 04:48 AM	#14
o_beavis Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	These maps aren't designed for 64 people. It just wouldn't work.

06-29-2005, 05:45 AM	#15
o_xstioph Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	What ya guys talking about... Resizing the maps... No no, just add another "fort" to each map :P Imagine the mayhem on the bridge @ 4fort....

06-29-2005, 05:54 AM	#17
o_happy time harry Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	12v12 is high enough for me.

06-29-2005, 07:42 AM	#20
mirvin_monkey Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Town, SA Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	i enjoyed the BF2 demo but i'm not going to get the full game until most of the problems people have been complaining about are fixed

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