New tool for mappers: Propper - Page 3

**Elmo** · 08-28-2010, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazycarl

Displacements aren't solid. If you need collisions, put in a clip brush.

I've noticed that if you have only two skins, it ignores the second one--apparently a logic error on my part--Add a third skin setting (can be the same as the second one) and it should work.

hah, k cool

**Crazycarl** · 10-26-2010, 02:33 AM

New version is out:

http://www.moddb.com/games/half-life...nloads/propper

Changes since last release:

Fixed bug where using one alternate skin caused skins not to work
Propper should now create any folder that needs to be created
the OB version no longer creates a .bsp file
logging is off by default. Use the command line option -logging to turn it back on. Hopefully this gets around the problem where it tries to create a log but can't.
option to remove bumpmapping from the converted materials. Useful if you plan to use -StaticPropLighting on compile
Fixed the issue with FGD files loading in the wrong order.

**Crazycarl** · 02-21-2011, 05:37 PM

FYI the old download link, thoughtfully provided by [AE] 82694, has expired. The file can now be found at http://www.moddb.com/games/half-life...nloads/propper

**Crazycarl** · 05-08-2011, 09:52 PM

I forgot to mention the new version of Propper that came out a month ago!

http://www.moddb.com/members/cfoust/...propper-beta-3

Changes since last release:
You can now create more than one model at once by turning parts of your existing map into propper_model entities. You can run Propper on the map and it will ignore everything except the propper_*entities. Other new features include:

custom physics meshes
LOD support
bodygroups support

Also there's this:

Quote:

[BMS Dev] JeanPaul: incredible
[BMS Dev] JeanPaul: you sir
[BMS Dev] JeanPaul: have officially made black mesa release sooner

**squeek.** · 05-08-2011, 11:00 PM

Nice work Carl.

**Ricey** · 05-09-2011, 02:12 AM

www.3pxl.com/fortressforever/propper_0.24.zip
Also
http://www.3pxl.com/fortressforever/propper_0.3.zip

**Elmo** · 05-26-2011, 12:31 AM

Carl.. would there be any way of making proper make rope entities into static models? (Can't remember if I asked you months ago already)

Also, I've done clip brushes to act as collision boxes for my converted displacements.. don't seem to be working. Any ideas?

**Crazycarl** · 05-26-2011, 03:54 AM

You can add ropes to a model with Propper, but they don't work on static props, I think. Afaik it's exactly the same thing as if you'd used move_rope.

If you want some static cables modeled, I could probably do that for you.

If you are using version 0.3, you need to specify a brush entity to use for collision (even if it's the same propper_model you've just made). Otherwise it will make it non-solid.

**Elmo** · 05-26-2011, 10:18 AM

riiight okay - sorry I need to look a bit closer

it was 1am.. not my fault

*edit* ohhh, skipped over it when I saw physics an thought it was some dynamic prop thing - still sorry!

*edit* I am correct in assuming that clips are needed for displacements tho ye?

WRT ropes. I might come back to you another time, there's been loads of ropes between lights for medieval that never reached the map releases cause I hit the rope limit lol. I'll only ask if I actually get one ready for release again... but if propper could do it then I'd do it myself. Thanks for the offer tho.

**Elmo** · 05-26-2011, 11:11 AM

Oh and I thought I'd add that the new version ith the propper_model entities makes things so so much easier. Just being able to just run it on warpath and then hide the conversions and import the model... brilliant work

**Elmo** · 05-27-2011, 06:07 PM

Does it work with displacement alpha?

**Crazycarl** · 05-28-2011, 03:49 AM

Nope, because models don't support it.

**Elmo** · 05-28-2011, 09:37 AM

ah yeah thought I'd asked you before

And that makes sense cheers

10-26-2010, 02:33 AM	#42
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	New version is out: http://www.moddb.com/games/half-life...nloads/propper Changes since last release: Fixed bug where using one alternate skin caused skins not to work Propper should now create any folder that needs to be created the OB version no longer creates a .bsp file logging is off by default. Use the command line option -logging to turn it back on. Hopefully this gets around the problem where it tries to create a log but can't. option to remove bumpmapping from the converted materials. Useful if you plan to use -StaticPropLighting on compile Fixed the issue with FGD files loading in the wrong order. Last edited by Crazycarl; 05-08-2011 at 11:05 PM.

05-08-2011, 11:00 PM	#45
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05-09-2011, 02:12 AM	#46
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05-26-2011, 12:31 AM	#47
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Carl.. would there be any way of making proper make rope entities into static models? (Can't remember if I asked you months ago already) Also, I've done clip brushes to act as collision boxes for my converted displacements.. don't seem to be working. Any ideas? __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 05-26-2011 at 01:28 AM.

05-26-2011, 10:18 AM	#49
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	riiight okay - sorry I need to look a bit closer it was 1am.. not my fault edit ohhh, skipped over it when I saw physics an thought it was some dynamic prop thing - still sorry! edit I am correct in assuming that clips are needed for displacements tho ye? WRT ropes. I might come back to you another time, there's been loads of ropes between lights for medieval that never reached the map releases cause I hit the rope limit lol. I'll only ask if I actually get one ready for release again... but if propper could do it then I'd do it myself. Thanks for the offer tho. __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 05-26-2011 at 10:32 AM.

02-21-2011, 05:37 PM	#43
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	FYI the old download link, thoughtfully provided by [AE] 82694, has expired. The file can now be found at http://www.moddb.com/games/half-life...nloads/propper

05-26-2011, 03:54 AM	#48
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	You can add ropes to a model with Propper, but they don't work on static props, I think. Afaik it's exactly the same thing as if you'd used move_rope. If you want some static cables modeled, I could probably do that for you. If you are using version 0.3, you need to specify a brush entity to use for collision (even if it's the same propper_model you've just made). Otherwise it will make it non-solid.

05-26-2011, 11:11 AM	#50
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Oh and I thought I'd add that the new version ith the propper_model entities makes things so so much easier. Just being able to just run it on warpath and then hide the conversions and import the model... brilliant work __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

05-27-2011, 06:07 PM	#51
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Does it work with displacement alpha? __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

05-28-2011, 03:49 AM	#52
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Nope, because models don't support it.

05-28-2011, 09:37 AM	#53
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	ah yeah thought I'd asked you before And that makes sense cheers __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

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