The Origins Of "1337"

o_lithium · 02-08-2005, 09:32 AM

It was a UDP Port used by the Dead Cow Cult to hack you with Back Orifice.

It pissed me off seeing people with leet in their names ... yet calling us nerds.

o_beerinator · 02-08-2005, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LithiuM

It was a UDP Port used by the Dead Cow Cult to hack you with Back Orifice.

It pissed me off seeing people with leet in their names ... yet calling us nerds.

You said, "Back Orifice".

o_3xternal · 02-08-2005, 02:57 PM

learn something new everyday....
i always thought it came from elite, which became leet, which became 1337.

o_ekim · 02-08-2005, 03:28 PM

You would be correct.

o_returner · 02-08-2005, 03:33 PM

I've read that 1337 goes as far back as the eighties.

o_3xternal · 02-08-2005, 03:48 PM

what referance to 1337 was found in the eighties... ?
(and what could people DO with 1337in the 80s?)

o_billdoor · 02-08-2005, 05:59 PM

Back orifice might have used 1337 (actually I believe it was 31337) but I'm pretty sure leet-speak started on BBSs in the late 80s (maybe even earlier?).

Leeb, on the other hand...

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 02-08-2005, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billdoor

Back orifice might have used 1337 (actually I believe it was 31337) but I'm pretty sure leet-speak started on BBSs in the late 80s (maybe even earlier?).

Leeb, on the other hand...

That's my understanding Bill. It well predates Windows.

o_returner · 02-08-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 3Xternal

what referance to 1337 was found in the eighties... ?
(and what could people DO with 1337in the 80s?)

Bulletin Board Systems... even C-64s could access them. The Internet, as it was at that time, was probably too academic for that kind of stuff.

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 02-08-2005, 09:52 PM

Trust me...you have NO idea how primitive a machine you could use to hack or crack "back in the day". As I did not have a PC back then I actually used a Texas Instruments Thermal Paper Teletype to do the things I used to do.

Visual Output? Check
Adjustable Modem Settings? Check
Adjustable Terminal Emulation? Check
Adjustable Output Formatting? Check

All set.

It was actually alot easier to get into trouble back then. Someone I know did end up getting grabbed by the FBI because he was ALOT more blatant than the rest of us and relied (foolishly) on this homemade black box he built to redirect wiretraces and shield his activity. (pure fantasy IMO)

o_morgz · 02-09-2005, 01:27 AM

interesting post

o_a boojum snark · 02-09-2005, 07:10 AM

http://www.aquarionics.com/article/n..._of_l337_Sp3aK

'tis a good read.

o_michael · 02-10-2005, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Boojum Snark

http://www.aquarionics.com/article/name/A_Basic_History_of_l337_Sp3aK

'tis a good read.

Heh

02-08-2005, 09:32 AM	#1
o_lithium Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The Origins Of "1337" It was a UDP Port used by the Dead Cow Cult to hack you with Back Orifice. It pissed me off seeing people with leet in their names ... yet calling us nerds.

02-08-2005, 02:57 PM	#3
o_3xternal Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	learn something new everyday.... i always thought it came from elite, which became leet, which became 1337.

02-08-2005, 03:28 PM	#4
o_ekim Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol UK Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	You would be correct.

02-08-2005, 03:33 PM	#5
o_returner Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I've read that 1337 goes as far back as the eighties.

02-08-2005, 03:48 PM	#6
o_3xternal Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	what referance to 1337 was found in the eighties... ? (and what could people DO with 1337in the 80s?)

02-08-2005, 05:59 PM	#7
o_billdoor Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Back orifice might have used 1337 (actually I believe it was 31337) but I'm pretty sure leet-speak started on BBSs in the late 80s (maybe even earlier?). Leeb, on the other hand...

02-08-2005, 09:52 PM	#10
o_\|404\|innoc-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Midtown Express Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Trust me...you have NO idea how primitive a machine you could use to hack or crack "back in the day". As I did not have a PC back then I actually used a Texas Instruments Thermal Paper Teletype to do the things I used to do. Visual Output? Check Adjustable Modem Settings? Check Adjustable Terminal Emulation? Check Adjustable Output Formatting? Check All set. It was actually alot easier to get into trouble back then. Someone I know did end up getting grabbed by the FBI because he was ALOT more blatant than the rest of us and relied (foolishly) on this homemade black box he built to redirect wiretraces and shield his activity. (pure fantasy IMO)

02-09-2005, 01:27 AM	#11
o_morgz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	interesting post

02-09-2005, 07:10 AM	#12
o_a boojum snark Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orion Arm Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	http://www.aquarionics.com/article/n..._of_l337_Sp3aK 'tis a good read.

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