Shouldn't CD-RWs last more than six years?

there's nothing here · 08-03-2007, 10:29 AM

I just popped in a music CD I made three years ago into my cd player and it doesn't play. Which is weird, because I remember playing it five months or so ago.

Then I tried another, same dealie (same brand). Brand in question is Sony multispeed. Comes in green packing.

Two of em work- one has archived photos and the other has music on it. I've been playing it recently.

Could it have anything to do with the fact that some of them were burnt on a Mac iBook, and some on a Samsung burner?

But.. whatever it is.. I'm pretty bummed that I lost all my music.

**mervaka** · 08-03-2007, 11:06 AM

if you want longetivity in digital audio storage, use HiMD. its like minidiscs, but without the compression.

StatisticZ · 08-03-2007, 03:51 PM

Someone probably used it as a coaster. I personally just keep all my music on my hard drive. I have 50+ gigs right now and a couple hundred tapes and CDs.

Nuk3m · 08-03-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by [StatisticZ]

Someone probably used it as a coaster. I personally just keep all my music on my hard drive. I have 50+ gigs right now and a couple hundred tapes and CDs.

statz its best to store your music on an external so if there is ever a chance for power outtage you can unplug it without the worry of damaging the media. i personally keep all essential files on external removable storage. windows and misc garbage is on my internal (games apps etc) whereas word docs, music, pictures, videos, external.

btw u said u have tapes on the hard drive? there is a converter for that? i need to convert cassette into cd for my father. i fugred id just download the music but if i can do a direct rip that would be nice.

StatisticZ · 08-03-2007, 06:33 PM

I must have been typing too fast, I meant I have hundreds of tapes and CDs also, next to 50 gigabytes on my hard drive full of music.. Is that more clear?

Nuk3m · 08-03-2007, 09:34 PM

oooh damn. i thought u meant u converted ur Tape cassettes into mp3.s lol

StatisticZ · 08-03-2007, 09:56 PM

Na, But I believe there is something to do that -- not sure though.

Ihmhi · 08-03-2007, 10:59 PM

Flash cards or external hard drives are the way to go. More durable and they last longer than CDs.

CDs are the modern floppy nowadays, not the best use for archiving files unless you keep them in pristine condition.

BTW, just so you know:

-CDs should always be kept out of sunlight.
-CDs should always be stored vertically, NEVER horizontally, to prolong their life.

Teh Hwoling Manz · 08-04-2007, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihmhi

-CDs should always be stored vertically, NEVER horizontally, to prolong their life.

But then my datas will slide off of my CD and onto my floor and I lose it forever.

Nuk3m · 08-04-2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Teh Hwoling Manz

But then my datas will slide off of my CD and onto my floor and I lose it forever.

hahaha

StatisticZ · 08-06-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Teh Hwoling Manz

But then my datas will slide off of my CD and onto my floor and I lose it forever.

lmfao

Innoc · 08-06-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuk3m

oooh damn. i thought u meant u converted ur Tape cassettes into mp3.s lol

I have an external preamp to which I can connect turntables, cassette modules, etc. For software I can use either the suite of apps that came with my SB XFi or I can use Roxio. I suspect Nero may have something similar. It really isn't difficult to do...just the investment in decent hardware.

Sacrifist · 08-06-2007, 11:43 PM

I use a 4 track and hook it up to the pc to rip cassettes if need be. Pretty simple process.

Iggy · 08-07-2007, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Teh Hwoling Manz

But then my datas will slide off of my CD and onto my floor and I lose it forever.

OMG!!! You just reminded me of a dirty joke I pulled on a friend about 20 years ago! I picked up one of his 5.25" floppy disks....and told him, "If you shake the disk like this, all the data falls off." as I am shaking the shit out of it.

Then I looked at the disk, got a sheepish look on my face, and simply said..."oops."

You ever see a cartoon character do a "slow burn"? Where their face turns red from bottom to top, kinda slowishly?

He did that.

Until I busted out laughing...and told him it was a joke.

Then he tried to kill me.

Some people have NO sense of humour.

**mervaka** · 08-07-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoc

I have an external preamp to which I can connect turntables, cassette modules, etc. For software I can use either the suite of apps that came with my SB XFi or I can use Roxio. I suspect Nero may have something similar. It really isn't difficult to do...just the investment in decent hardware.

the problem with turbtables is, you need an RIAA filter to reequalise the levels. vinyls are pressed with the low end rolled off, and the top end ramped up. this filter undoes that.

Innoc · 08-07-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mervaka

the problem with turbtables is, you need an RIAA filter to reequalise the levels. vinyls are pressed with the low end rolled off, and the top end ramped up. this filter undoes that.

And my pre-amp is set up for that.

**mervaka** · 08-07-2007, 10:18 PM

cool

Ihmhi · 08-08-2007, 01:56 PM

RIAA filter? That sounds notorious.

What does it do? Stamp "THIS RECORD IS COPYRIGHT _______" on the record or something and add DRM to it? d:

StatisticZ · 08-08-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

OMG!!! You just reminded me of a dirty joke I pulled on a friend about 20 years ago! I picked up one of his 5.25" floppy disks....and told him, "If you shake the disk like this, all the data falls off." as I am shaking the shit out of it.

Then I looked at the disk, got a sheepish look on my face, and simply said..."oops."

You ever see a cartoon character do a "slow burn"? Where their face turns red from bottom to top, kinda slowishly?

He did that.

Until I busted out laughing...and told him it was a joke.

Then he tried to kill me.

Some people have NO sense of humour.

Maybe cuz yall were stoned, and he's the type to get mad when people fuck with him when he's high.. Like myself.

**mervaka** · 08-08-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihmhi

RIAA filter? That sounds notorious.

What does it do? Stamp "THIS RECORD IS COPYRIGHT _______" on the record or something and add DRM to it? d:

no... RIAA filters have been around longer than you, me or indeed DRM has been around. imagine if it was just a flat recording. the bass would kick the needle off th vinyl constantly, and the top end would be so small that it'd sound dull.

08-03-2007, 10:29 AM	#1
there's nothing here lol Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Halfway sprawled out of a cardboard box at the bottom of a flight of stairs. Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Shouldn't CD-RWs last more than six years? I just popped in a music CD I made three years ago into my cd player and it doesn't play. Which is weird, because I remember playing it five months or so ago. Then I tried another, same dealie (same brand). Brand in question is Sony multispeed. Comes in green packing. Two of em work- one has archived photos and the other has music on it. I've been playing it recently. Could it have anything to do with the fact that some of them were burnt on a Mac iBook, and some on a Samsung burner? But.. whatever it is.. I'm pretty bummed that I lost all my music.

08-03-2007, 11:06 AM	#2
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	if you want longetivity in digital audio storage, use HiMD. its like minidiscs, but without the compression. __________________ Support FF:

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08-03-2007, 03:51 PM	#3
StatisticZ My title is... Custom. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tri-State Area Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Someone probably used it as a coaster. I personally just keep all my music on my hard drive. I have 50+ gigs right now and a couple hundred tapes and CDs.

08-03-2007, 06:33 PM	#5
StatisticZ My title is... Custom. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tri-State Area Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I must have been typing too fast, I meant I have hundreds of tapes and CDs also, next to 50 gigabytes on my hard drive full of music.. Is that more clear?

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Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	oooh damn. i thought u meant u converted ur Tape cassettes into mp3.s lol

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StatisticZ My title is... Custom. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tri-State Area Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Na, But I believe there is something to do that -- not sure though.

08-06-2007, 11:43 PM	#13
Sacrifist HL2CTF DEV Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I use a 4 track and hook it up to the pc to rip cassettes if need be. Pretty simple process.

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