So..What happened to the beta? - Page 3

o_foxtrick · 10-11-2006, 06:19 PM

Jeez, everyone here is acting clueless and I am reading that there is people already participating in a sort of outside-dev group of testers?!

Man wish there was a news topic about it, atleast give everyone(myself inc.) a chance to brown nose!

o_psycnet · 10-11-2006, 07:53 PM

We're only acting clueless because what you see as new information we see as yesterday's (proverbial) news.

AND DON'T MAKE ME MAKE HIM GET THAT GOLDURN BELT BOY LESS' I WHUP YAH TILL YE CAINT SIT NO MAH

o_p@steymofo · 10-11-2006, 08:51 PM

Ahhh, the sweet smell of superioty of FF diehards with condescending attitudes over n00bs that have questions. Yep, you smell that too? That's right... it's another "Where's the beef/beta?" thread.

o_psycnet · 10-11-2006, 09:02 PM

Along with superiority you also smell entitlement, because we're not retarded and/or know how to read

o_qbaler · 10-12-2006, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by schtoofa

We pushed really hard to get things going in August, but with the SDK update / server problems and then people having to tend to other business away from FF or moving, we got set back some.

You're right, though: the closed beta has started. In a way, though, closed beta testing has been going on for ages. With a dev team of 30 or so people playing FF periodically, we've had a good opportunity to flush out a lot of the problems. What we've recently done, though, is give the closed beta out to non-dev team members for the first time (like Mulch hinted at). So in that sense, yes, what you probably picture to be a closed beta has started.

how many non-dev would you say are a part of this closed beta? The reason I ask is not to complain of not being chosen or anything but just to get a judgement on how you guys are doing. If the only non dev beta testers are phish... well.. thats not really a beta thats ready for a bigger group...

o_mikequist · 10-12-2006, 02:49 AM

Does it matter?

All I care about is them freaking releasing the game. It's been well over 2 years now. I can clearly remember back 2 years and updating the FF page every day hoping for a release date...

Just hurry up with finishing it team.

o_tfcog · 10-12-2006, 04:24 AM

Here's a mod for GTA:San Andreas that's going at about the same pace as FF. They're having a closed beta process, but I think they have a more efficient way of going about it(I think, I don't know what the FF process is).

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We have recently changed the way our testing system works - from a well-known and used strict alpha schedule, to a nightly build system. This means that we'll be receiving a new alpha build every night at a certain hour, updated with the changes made on the previous day.
This greatly improves our testing efficency, since now we can check the newly-added features or bugfixes soon after they're done, instead of waiting several days for a new release.

http://multitheftauto.com/blog/

o_bumgravy · 10-12-2006, 07:41 AM

Surely compiling and distributing the code every day is a bit much? Maybe later in the cycle, when the only bugs left are the ones youre having real trouble with would this be more efficient.

o_atari · 10-12-2006, 08:48 AM

Agreed, testing daily is a stupid idea imo.

o_ekim · 10-12-2006, 10:23 AM

That's often how it's done in the real world.

o_atari · 10-12-2006, 10:46 AM

If i'm working on something myself (programming), then I admit I test as often as I like, which is often as soon as I make a change. But if I'm at work as part of a large project, then testing daily would be a nightmare.

o_ekim · 10-12-2006, 11:31 AM

*shrug*. That's what I did all last summer.

o_dr zoidberg · 10-12-2006, 12:49 PM

"What happend to the beta?"
"Yo Moma Happend"

o_tfcog · 10-12-2006, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BumGravy

Surely compiling and distributing the code every day is a bit much? Maybe later in the cycle, when the only bugs left are the ones youre having real trouble with would this be more efficient.

A new build every week would be more realistic for this mod. The GTA mod doesn't take that long to download, who knows how big FF is?

o_df` · 10-12-2006, 01:14 PM

Yeah, back when we were doing little 500 line projects in school we could compile and run after each line pretty much, no problem. But then when you start working with something like the Linux kernel, you better be damn sure you're ready to compile since it takes a few hours.

o_sobe green · 10-12-2006, 01:18 PM

I've been playing the beta since July 05 saay what?

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

'Cuz you keep fucking blabbing on public internet forums, you nimrod.

Funny I thought that was your speciality.

Jiggles · 10-12-2006, 05:58 PM

Why wait? The dev team has an SVN setup, so anyone can pull the latest build whenever they want...

o_amazingnurseenrique · 10-12-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ekiM

That's often how it's done in the real world.

Indeed. I've been doing it for about 4 months, along with 11 other people.

If you're concerned with shipping a polished product, it's a boon if you have the manpower.

10-11-2006, 06:19 PM	#41
o_foxtrick Join Date: May 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Jeez, everyone here is acting clueless and I am reading that there is people already participating in a sort of outside-dev group of testers?! Man wish there was a news topic about it, atleast give everyone(myself inc.) a chance to brown nose!

10-11-2006, 07:53 PM	#42
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	We're only acting clueless because what you see as new information we see as yesterday's (proverbial) news. AND DON'T MAKE ME MAKE HIM GET THAT GOLDURN BELT BOY LESS' I WHUP YAH TILL YE CAINT SIT NO MAH

10-11-2006, 08:51 PM	#43
o_p@steymofo Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ahhh, the sweet smell of superioty of FF diehards with condescending attitudes over n00bs that have questions. Yep, you smell that too? That's right... it's another "Where's the beef/beta?" thread.

10-11-2006, 09:02 PM	#44
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Along with superiority you also smell entitlement, because we're not retarded and/or know how to read

10-12-2006, 02:49 AM	#46
o_mikequist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tampa Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Does it matter? All I care about is them freaking releasing the game. It's been well over 2 years now. I can clearly remember back 2 years and updating the FF page every day hoping for a release date... Just hurry up with finishing it team.

10-12-2006, 07:41 AM	#48
o_bumgravy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Surely compiling and distributing the code every day is a bit much? Maybe later in the cycle, when the only bugs left are the ones youre having real trouble with would this be more efficient.

10-12-2006, 08:48 AM	#49
o_atari Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Somerset, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Agreed, testing daily is a stupid idea imo.

10-12-2006, 10:23 AM	#50
o_ekim Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol UK Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	That's often how it's done in the real world.

10-12-2006, 10:46 AM	#51
o_atari Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Somerset, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If i'm working on something myself (programming), then I admit I test as often as I like, which is often as soon as I make a change. But if I'm at work as part of a large project, then testing daily would be a nightmare.

10-12-2006, 11:31 AM	#52
o_ekim Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol UK Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	shrug. That's what I did all last summer.

10-12-2006, 12:49 PM	#53
o_dr zoidberg Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	"What happend to the beta?" "Yo Moma Happend"

10-12-2006, 01:14 PM	#55
o_df` Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, back when we were doing little 500 line projects in school we could compile and run after each line pretty much, no problem. But then when you start working with something like the Linux kernel, you better be damn sure you're ready to compile since it takes a few hours.

10-12-2006, 05:58 PM	#57
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Why wait? The dev team has an SVN setup, so anyone can pull the latest build whenever they want...

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