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but yes, i do agree that in pubs, that exit kinda sucks since its all wide open. but, there always is the other exit to get out the old school way. Quote:
you can always come by #ff.pickup on gamesurge if you want to play in a bit of a more organized environment thanks for taking the time to explain that, and hopefully you will come back and change your mind. |
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04-26-2008, 01:47 PM | #8042 | |
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Must be the 12 hr days and no days off. I reread my post. Sorry.
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04-26-2008, 08:06 PM | #8043 |
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Saboteurs of FF?
Lately there has been a lot of talk about what is needed to help bolster the dwindling FF player base. Some of this talk is about negative things that experienced players are doing, such as calling new players "noobs" and laughing/yelling at them. This complaint leaves many of the regulars scratching their heads trying to remember if they ever saw this happening, because they always help new players.
However, I did see this happen last night on the AE server....except it was kind of weird. I didn't recognize the dudes name, and he typed something like "LOLZ NOOBS!!!" So, the only guy I have ever seen make fun of a noob, and I have never seen them at all.....strange. Then it dawned on me....maybe the people complaining about that happening, are the one's doing it. I mean, how often do you even see the people who are highly critical of FF actually playing the game? Well, maybe they are, but not under their forum name.....just so they can anonymously be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe they're bitter about being wrong so much, that they have to spread negativity, and then complain about it? You know....career jerks. So, it seems like some people are intentionally trying to ruin this game (there's youtube videos about this), and I for one will be keeping track of the Steam IDs of all the players I see being jerks. I can't wait to find out whether or not it's the same dude going by different names.
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04-26-2008, 08:25 PM | #8044 |
Its over nine thousands!!!
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I support you with this.
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04-26-2008, 08:35 PM | #8045 |
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I don't think there are career jerks out there, and if they were the community has been pretty good about communicating issues with players to each other.
Either way I'm a stats freak... so I crunched the noob numbers. People saying "noob" in the [o-t] FF since last September (that did so more then once): (steam_id - Name - # of times saying 'noob') STEAM_0:0:8322485 - /KBN/ Skillet - 7 STEAM_0:0:5413198 - Ecto [PANDA] - 5 STEAM_0:0:17083658 - DJ Dumb - 4 STEAM_0:1:3785563 - Stoertebeker - 3 STEAM_0:0:18103477 - -={D|o|S}=- JohnnyC - 2 STEAM_0:0:4846918 - MrBlowtatoesTheCybernaut - 2 STEAM_0:0:17439319 - :e0: Yoda {FYC} - 2 STEAM_0:0:17385955 - cool kid - 2 STEAM_0:1:3010350 - Machete - 2 STEAM_0:0:5682265 - [e.]TerrorFakt - 2 STEAM_0:0:6436544 - GambiT - 2 STEAM_0:1:1285861 - SuperDude - 2 STEAM_0:0:11628193 - Scout {BONK} Ger - 2 Out of the 50 people that had used the word 'noob', 6 of them have been banned for one reason or another. Gambit, I'm so ashamed of you.
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04-26-2008, 08:39 PM | #8046 |
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Skillet being on the list doesn't surprise me
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04-26-2008, 08:59 PM | #8047 | |
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Also, its not the calling people noobs constantly that makes them go away, its the fact that they don't get help, don't understand, won't understand the core mechanics of the game that makes the leave |
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04-26-2008, 09:41 PM | #8048 | |
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04-26-2008, 09:57 PM | #8050 | |
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04-26-2008, 10:10 PM | #8051 |
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If you really think that people are going out of their way to make sure FF fails you must be retarded.
I've never heard such a stupid thing in my life. And to connect the dots about people who complain about it are the ones doing it. That just brings you up to level 10 on my retardation meter. Christ. There are assholes in every game. Seems like just about every time I join CSS now somebody will come in and bash it and say "BF2" is better or "CoD4" is better, or something else like that. |
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04-26-2008, 10:32 PM | #8052 |
when ff will out?
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I don't think people are going out of their way to scare off players like this, like nixon said it's just normal for some people to be dicks in online games. As for the people who come on here claiming that elitist players scaring of newbies is what's keeping the mod from ever getting popular, I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that those people are pissed of with the clan community in one way or another and just love to make it their scape goat.
Edit: As for the statistics for who has uttered the word 'noob' on a server : that carries little weight since you don't know the context in which the word was used. The word is so cliche by now it is commonly used in banter between friends etc.. |
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04-27-2008, 12:08 AM | #8054 | |
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Overall, they don't succeed in life so much as impede the progress of others. Usually, deception is their sharpest tool. Sometimes it is for profit of some kind, and sometimes it's just because they can be a jerk and get away with it. It's all about them... Again, if I never see the dudes, who complain about noob bashing, playing FF...then how do they know this is happening? What part of their story is made up, or a half-truth? I don't think any of the players on Scuzzy's list, or any of the other players who post in forum, would make fun of, or yell at a new player.
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04-27-2008, 12:58 AM | #8055 |
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Scuz, how do you keep track of things like that? I'd like to be able to keep track of data like that, not necessarily to keep a close eye on my server, but to get rid of the people who are the real problem makers.
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04-27-2008, 01:20 AM | #8056 | |
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04-27-2008, 02:56 AM | #8057 | |
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I hate your server scuzz, its way too intrusive, and way to strict |
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04-27-2008, 03:44 AM | #8058 | |
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Your Record A person could, in theory, swear 88 times per day and not auto-temp banned. We give people a two warnings within a short time frame, the third occurance is when the temp bans begin. That means a player, you specificially, have PLENTY OF CHANCES to shut your mouth and play the game. What's funny is you spent your last chances pushing the system to get banned. How pitiful it was to get banned over such a small word, yes, but you did it intentionally. You called someone a pussy, tested out the word "tard" and were nailed, then continued to use it again all within less then 3 minutes! YOU did this to yourself, not me, not anyone else in [o-t]. You spent your chances of your own free will, you were fair warned each time you were slayed that a temp ban was coming. As you can see those chances can be VERY important afterwards. You mistype something, or you use a word you personally might not normally associate with a filter and you're banned again. You gave up your right to those chances freely. You made that mistake. You're the only one that can fix that situation (by not speaking). This is the second time I've had to explain this to you. You've played on the server 35 times since July of 2006, you know the rules by now. As for your mistype. I gave you ample opportunity, even after you insulted the clan and myself, to tell me that was a typo and I would fix it. I would post a link to that message, but it was cleaned out of a previous thread. You said you were never coming back to the [o-t] server and that it didn't matter. That is your call and even though you have come back since saying that we, again, wish you well wherever you play... be it on our server or elsewhere. Scuzzy
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04-27-2008, 04:01 AM | #8059 |
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We need more 50's in the FF community!!!
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04-27-2008, 04:52 AM | #8060 | |
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thats what forums are great for, you can add your opinion, and construct a debate from there. I for one disagree with this saboteur thing, it seems unrealistic. Again, people are hypocritical, but thats extremist. All in all greenday, you have to be willing to give people a chance, even if they dont give you one. Its what separates the good people from the bad, and the intellectuals from the outright dumbasses. I can vouch for o-t, ive played there a LONG time, i think well over 3 years, and its great, they are a friendly, easy to get along with, fun loving group of people, especially the other peeps that regular their community as i have. You dont have to swear to have a good time. EDIT Whats with all this FF is dead bullshit? Mod isnt dead. Why dont we stfu about OMG FF IS DEAD and start embracing the fact that we have a great community of players and an even better mod. This community is better than most ive seen, yea, it has drama, but shit, thats everywhere you go. FF Forums is kinda like a small southern town. Always say hi to each other when we see each other in game, and welcome anyone with open arms. Its not the player base thats killing us, its this shit about how the mod is dead that is. BTW scuzz, could i see that log for my ID? |
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