A question for Beta testers! - Page 5

o_twincannon · 01-20-2007, 04:05 AM

/me wonders if he's the only person who never liked any incarnation of rock, ever

o_sta_sirtiger · 01-20-2007, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Sadly, Rock 2 hasn't recieved much attention. I wouldn't expect it for first release.

Yuck....wasn't 2d chris working on it? Rock2 is a different game play environment; not including it would be like missing the ham in a sandwich. FF team needs new mappers....

Jiggles · 01-20-2007, 06:27 AM

Yes, but then he just...evaporated

o_sta_sirtiger · 01-20-2007, 07:45 AM

Just like kermit

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o_arsenalfc · 01-20-2007, 02:17 PM

what's with all these people going missing? do they have such full time commitments they can't spend a little bit of their time over months finishing up any work they've started?

o_ghost · 01-20-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TwiNCannoN

/me wonders if he's the only person who never liked any incarnation of rock, ever

It's been a while, but in the original qwtf version of The Rock I'm pretty sure you could det a generator somewhere to gain a second entrance into the warden's area.

Rock isn't too bad in a pub as long as the teams are somewhat smallish and everyone is not playing defense. In a match forget about it. The one and only time I played Rock I was responsible for gaurding the key as a demo. My stats at the end of the round was 1 kill and 0 deaths. I refused to kill myself to get another detpack to reseal the hole in the yard.

o_smax · 01-20-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

I refused to kill myself to get another detpack to reseal the hole in the yard.

Gren bags also give you a detpack eh, hence annoying the people on well pubs by constantly dropping detpacks from the attic

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o_aces · 01-21-2007, 12:37 AM

only that bag.

btw. the sniper "tagging" looks shit, and i don't see why it needs to be there.

o_twincannon · 01-21-2007, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by arsenalfc

what's with all these people going missing? do they have such full time commitments they can't spend a little bit of their time over months finishing up any work they've started?

It can be very stressful/hard at times. I remember just before one of the dystopia updates when dys_fortress was being included as an official map I was so extremely burned out from mapping I couldn't even finish the last couple percent of the map that needed finishing. And now what do you know, I recently deleted like half the map and re-did it for v1. :P

o_arsenalfc · 01-21-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TwiNCannoN

It can be very stressful/hard at times. I remember just before one of the dystopia updates when dys_fortress was being included as an official map I was so extremely burned out from mapping I couldn't even finish the last couple percent of the map that needed finishing. And now what do you know, I recently deleted like half the map and re-did it for v1. :P

fair enough

o_player · 01-21-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces

btw. the sniper "tagging" looks shit, and i don't see why it needs to be there.

Agreed, it is essentially a free wallhack.

o_toffee · 01-21-2007, 03:04 PM

Well the argument would be that its better all of them have it because it discourages people from bothering to go to the effort of making other cheats. Also if it helps a sniper to become a viable class (but not be overpowered obviously) then I'm all for it

o_()))crayola))_> · 01-21-2007, 09:55 PM

Actually the argument is that neither Aces nor Player has ever played the game, and are thus not qualified to give their shitty opinions on gameplay elements the devs believe are an improvement.

o_psycnet · 01-21-2007, 10:00 PM

Without being able to test this out in a full game situation, I would agree that arguing whether it is good or not remains to be a moot point for anyone not developing or beta testing the game.

Every game gets tweaked, things get changed or taken out or added.

Like, remember in CS b2 when weapons stayed on the ground after every round?

Or when the m4 had a scope and unremovable silencer?

Every game changes, and we'll see what happens to this one in the coming months and years

**mervaka** · 01-21-2007, 10:49 PM

.... and the P90 ruled!..... o wait that beta 4/5

o_psycnet · 01-22-2007, 12:24 AM

Yeah it was...those were good times for the p90...damn nerfers

I remember a beta point where TMP had 2/3 shots hit in the helmet/face too...

Weird

Circuitous · 01-22-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Toffee

Well the argument would be that its better all of them have it because it discourages people from bothering to go to the effort of making other cheats. Also if it helps a sniper to become a viable class (but not be overpowered obviously) then I'm all for it

The real argument is that the tagged player knows he is tagged and it has limited range.

Jiggles · 01-22-2007, 02:06 AM

...and he has to get shot first

That's a teeny-tiny difference from a wallhack.

o_saberwolf · 01-22-2007, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Player

Agreed, it is essentially a free wallhack.

The reason they did it is to give the Sniper SOMETHING to bring him up and make him more valuable. Personally, from what I've heard, the tag won't really help that much. For one, you have to to hit the guy and let him live to make it work right? Not to mention after being shot they wont last long after that, so I still think the things bloody useless, not overpowering. Id' say the sniper still needs something more.

*Edit* The only way I can see the tag actually be useful is if the sniper accidenly didn't kill the O runner and it would let him tell his teammates where he's running so they can stop him. So, basically it lets the sniper be a defencive caller, which could be useful....maybe. still seems underpowerd to me

o_ivaqual · 01-22-2007, 08:18 AM

If I can throw my 2 cents I would make snipers immune to the wallhack tag bullet, otherwise that would essentially mark the death of sniper wars

01-21-2007, 10:49 PM	#95
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	.... and the P90 ruled!..... o wait that beta 4/5 __________________ Support FF:

01-20-2007, 04:05 AM	#81
o_twincannon Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	/me wonders if he's the only person who never liked any incarnation of rock, ever

01-20-2007, 06:27 AM	#83
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yes, but then he just...evaporated

01-20-2007, 07:45 AM	#84
o_sta_sirtiger Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas, THE USA!!! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Just like kermit .

01-20-2007, 02:17 PM	#85
o_arsenalfc Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	what's with all these people going missing? do they have such full time commitments they can't spend a little bit of their time over months finishing up any work they've started?

01-21-2007, 12:37 AM	#88
o_aces Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	only that bag. btw. the sniper "tagging" looks shit, and i don't see why it needs to be there.

01-21-2007, 03:04 PM	#92
o_toffee Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well the argument would be that its better all of them have it because it discourages people from bothering to go to the effort of making other cheats. Also if it helps a sniper to become a viable class (but not be overpowered obviously) then I'm all for it

01-21-2007, 09:55 PM	#93
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Actually the argument is that neither Aces nor Player has ever played the game, and are thus not qualified to give their shitty opinions on gameplay elements the devs believe are an improvement.

01-21-2007, 10:00 PM	#94
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Without being able to test this out in a full game situation, I would agree that arguing whether it is good or not remains to be a moot point for anyone not developing or beta testing the game. Every game gets tweaked, things get changed or taken out or added. Like, remember in CS b2 when weapons stayed on the ground after every round? Or when the m4 had a scope and unremovable silencer? Every game changes, and we'll see what happens to this one in the coming months and years

01-22-2007, 12:24 AM	#96
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah it was...those were good times for the p90...damn nerfers I remember a beta point where TMP had 2/3 shots hit in the helmet/face too... Weird

01-22-2007, 02:06 AM	#98
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	...and he has to get shot first That's a teeny-tiny difference from a wallhack.

01-22-2007, 08:18 AM	#100
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If I can throw my 2 cents I would make snipers immune to the wallhack tag bullet, otherwise that would essentially mark the death of sniper wars

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