Weird light(entity?) problem

o_gogeta · 11-07-2006, 03:53 AM

Ingame on a map im working on, there is a light_spot effect that is non-existant in hammer, help me get rid of this

In Hammer : http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3844/hammergk4.jpg
In Game : http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6649/ingameqx0.jpg

there are no light entities in the map whatsoever. There are no entities inside that main room, just bordering it. there are just texture lights.
non source mapping, this is tfc 1.6

o_mj · 11-07-2006, 03:58 AM

try different compile tools
are you using zoners?

o_pigeons · 11-07-2006, 07:00 AM

Looks like some sort of environment light emitting off the sky texture.

Is that a sky box above that hole in the roof?

o_mj · 11-07-2006, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pigeons

Looks like some sort of environment light emitting off the sky texture.

Is that a sky box above that hole in the roof?

look for gaps too

o_gogeta · 11-07-2006, 01:49 PM

no gaps, using zoners, no light entities whatsoever

o_nuk3m · 11-07-2006, 03:51 PM

try adding a secondary light_enviorment i had this problem a while back too, its something about the skyboxes not sure what though

o_gogeta · 11-07-2006, 09:11 PM

i changed the sky texture to BLACK
its still there, I'm thinking something to do with texture lights?

how do i add a secondary if there isnt even one there?

o_nodnarb · 11-07-2006, 09:13 PM

add a primary :P

o_bumgravy · 11-08-2006, 01:56 AM

Try placing a cube block where the error occurs, roughly the size of the light spot. This wont stop the error, but may at least give you a better idea of what direction its coming from, if you look at how your cube is lit.

Aint seen this kind of error before though.

o_gogeta · 11-08-2006, 03:22 AM

i placed a box, 128x128 above it
32 units above, and its still there, exactly
im trying 16 units.
i placed the box on it, didnt show anything

o_gogeta · 11-08-2006, 03:30 AM

its low enough to the ground that the texture lights cant see it, and its still there

o_bumgravy · 11-08-2006, 03:42 AM

post pic?

o_gogeta · 11-08-2006, 04:00 AM

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7255/ingame2ps4.jpg

trepid_jesse · 11-08-2006, 05:31 AM

You could try placing a func_illusionary covered with {blue or {invis, and then set the ZHLT light flag "Opaque, blocks light."

Also, try doing -extra on RAD, and -sparse as well.

o_gogeta · 11-08-2006, 02:39 PM

i did the thing that blocks light, now theres a giant black spot ?

edit, just added -chop 90 after i tried extra and sparse, it worked

?

o_bumgravy · 11-08-2006, 03:22 PM

Use the cordon tool to cordon off a 2metre square area where the the light spot is, compile and run your tiny map, see if its still there, if not expand the cordon until the light spot comes back. You got some funky error here buddy but this is the last, most time consuming resort to finding it.

trepid_jesse · 11-09-2006, 05:18 AM

-chop 90 would make your lighthing shittier, though. The default is 64, I think.

Oh yeah, and I think there was some other shit that was added to RAD called uhh -dscale, and I think you want to do -dscale 1.

o_loader · 11-09-2006, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BumGravy

Use the cordon tool to cordon off a 2metre square area where the the light spot is, compile and run your tiny map, see if its still there, if not expand the cordon until the light spot comes back. You got some funky error here buddy but this is the last, most time consuming resort to finding it.

Yeah! use the condom tool.

o_catzeyes93 · 11-09-2006, 02:42 PM

so you have light shining on the floor, but no source of where the light comes from. Duh.. how easy could this be? PUT a light on the ceiling!

:::chuckle:::

Ok, I know... stupid, but I had to say it. Ignore me.

11-07-2006, 03:53 AM	#1
o_gogeta Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Weird light(entity?) problem Ingame on a map im working on, there is a light_spot effect that is non-existant in hammer, help me get rid of this In Hammer : http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3844/hammergk4.jpg In Game : http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6649/ingameqx0.jpg there are no light entities in the map whatsoever. There are no entities inside that main room, just bordering it. there are just texture lights. non source mapping, this is tfc 1.6

11-08-2006, 05:31 AM	#14
trepid_jesse Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You could try placing a func_illusionary covered with {blue or {invis, and then set the ZHLT light flag "Opaque, blocks light." Also, try doing -extra on RAD, and -sparse as well. __________________ Support FF: Trepid, what?

11-08-2006, 02:39 PM	#15
o_gogeta Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i did the thing that blocks light, now theres a giant black spot ? edit, just added -chop 90 after i tried extra and sparse, it worked ? Last edited by o_gogeta; 11-08-2006 at 03:29 PM.

11-09-2006, 05:18 AM	#17
trepid_jesse Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	-chop 90 would make your lighthing shittier, though. The default is 64, I think. Oh yeah, and I think there was some other shit that was added to RAD called uhh -dscale, and I think you want to do -dscale 1. __________________ Support FF: Trepid, what?

11-07-2006, 03:58 AM	#2
o_mj Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	try different compile tools are you using zoners?

11-07-2006, 07:00 AM	#3
o_pigeons Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Looks like some sort of environment light emitting off the sky texture. Is that a sky box above that hole in the roof?

11-07-2006, 01:49 PM	#5
o_gogeta Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	no gaps, using zoners, no light entities whatsoever

11-07-2006, 03:51 PM	#6
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	try adding a secondary light_enviorment i had this problem a while back too, its something about the skyboxes not sure what though

11-07-2006, 09:11 PM	#7
o_gogeta Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i changed the sky texture to BLACK its still there, I'm thinking something to do with texture lights? how do i add a secondary if there isnt even one there?

11-07-2006, 09:13 PM	#8
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	add a primary :P

11-08-2006, 01:56 AM	#9
o_bumgravy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Try placing a cube block where the error occurs, roughly the size of the light spot. This wont stop the error, but may at least give you a better idea of what direction its coming from, if you look at how your cube is lit. Aint seen this kind of error before though.

11-08-2006, 03:22 AM	#10
o_gogeta Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i placed a box, 128x128 above it 32 units above, and its still there, exactly im trying 16 units. i placed the box on it, didnt show anything

11-08-2006, 03:30 AM	#11
o_gogeta Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	its low enough to the ground that the texture lights cant see it, and its still there

11-08-2006, 03:42 AM	#12
o_bumgravy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	post pic?

11-08-2006, 04:00 AM	#13
o_gogeta Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7255/ingame2ps4.jpg

11-08-2006, 03:22 PM	#16
o_bumgravy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Use the cordon tool to cordon off a 2metre square area where the the light spot is, compile and run your tiny map, see if its still there, if not expand the cordon until the light spot comes back. You got some funky error here buddy but this is the last, most time consuming resort to finding it.

11-09-2006, 02:42 PM	#19
o_catzeyes93 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	so you have light shining on the floor, but no source of where the light comes from. Duh.. how easy could this be? PUT a light on the ceiling! :::chuckle::: Ok, I know... stupid, but I had to say it. Ignore me.

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