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Old 08-24-2008, 05:54 PM   #21
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Old 08-24-2008, 05:58 PM   #22
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I think the Steam model is much better. Seems like this will just alienate consumers and quite probaby encourage piracy.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:27 PM   #23
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Nope, I won't buy. I wasn't that interested in Spore to begin with and limiting me to 3 installs treats me like a thief despite the fact that I buy what I use.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:43 PM   #24
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I think the Steam model is much better. Seems like this will just alienate consumers and quite probably encourage piracy.
But remember when Steam came out, people got PISSED.
There are still a lot of steam haters out there.
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:13 PM   #25
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:03 AM   #26
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Steam was a shitty implementation of a really good idea. Now it's just a marginally substandard implementation of a really good idea.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:17 AM   #27
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...works fine for me.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:25 AM   #28
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I think the Steam model is much better. Seems like this will just alienate consumers and quite probaby encourage piracy.
QFT, although i'm just going to wait for them to go "oh shit, this isnt actually a good idea.."

i like to buy games and support the trade, but i'm not paying out my ass for three fucking installs.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:44 AM   #29
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Oh, and I moved the thread.
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:08 AM   #30
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:15 AM   #31
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Well I mean the Steam model of having an account with the company and having games registered to that account and the right to download that game to whatever computer but only being able to use it when logged in.

The only problem with that model, from my point of view as a consumer, is that I need internet access at some point to play games. Not really a huge issue though.

It also works well for the games companies if playing online means you need to have a legit account and a legit copy. Sure, you can pirate counter-strike but I'm pretty sure you can't play on most servers without a legit copy. So people have to buy if they want to play online properly.

The Steam implementation was initially pretty shitty. However last time I used it it worked fine, and I guess it's probably not got worse since then.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:33 PM   #32
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dont forget what happened to circ. thats the one big thing that puts me off steam.
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:18 PM   #33
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what happened to circ?
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:52 PM   #34
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Steam is ok, there are still problems with it. A few things I do not like are...

You can't combine accounts. If you have 2 or 3 accounts, you can't move the games over to the account you want without having to pay valve to do it. I created 2 different accounts because I had seen lots of people saying that when they logged into steam with HL2 for the first time, it said that their CD key was already taken and then the whole account was locked out.


You can't remove games from an account without talking to steam to do it and even then its only to move it from one account to another. If I am done with a game, I want to be able to remove it it and sell it off. I don't want to have to sell off my account if I sell the game, and I don't want to have to go though steam/valve to get it shifted over.

Valve said they were going to allow people to remove games themselves but then changed their mind on it. I would like to remove all my old games from my old account and move it to this one, where I used actual


Valve also said that you would be able to change your account name, they still haven't allowed you to do that. My first account I had to use an e-mail address for the account name, I wanted to change that, but couldn't.


Forced updates. I hate forced updates. I usually like to give a new patch a few days to see whats going on. I have seen a few times when a forced steam update or a forced HL2 update has broken things to the point that you couldn't play at all. yes I can wait on an update for a game but for steam itself you can't.
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:18 PM   #35
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My hotmail address was re-registered, and the guy used it to claim my Steam account.

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Old 08-26-2008, 05:15 AM   #36
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Dunno whether this was the case back then, but nowadays you can retrieve your steam account by proving you own a credit card used to purchase a game on it. Sounds pretty solid to me.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:29 PM   #38
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Dunno whether this was the case back then, but nowadays you can retrieve your steam account by proving you own a credit card used to purchase a game on it. Sounds pretty solid to me.
That's fine unless you've never purchased a single game via steam. I have HL2, HL1 and all the mods on my steam account courtesy of the hard copy versions of the games that I purchased. Honestly, I have no intention of buying games in an electronic format.
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I've been debating whether or not I was going to buy Spore. On the one hand, I really, really want to support Maxis. On the other, I don't want to support DRM since it does not work, never has worked, and never will work. Steam is crackable and it's one of the more secure and viable solutions. It's just a bad, bad system overall.

Bad.

Terrible.

I don't think I'll be buying it. I will be playing it though.
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Dunno whether this was the case back then, but nowadays you can retrieve your steam account by proving you own a credit card used to purchase a game on it. Sounds pretty solid to me.
circ's been down that path, but aparently a hotmail account overrules that.
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