My Next Map: ff_mist?

Imbrifer · 09-10-2007, 01:10 AM

My current mapping projects are coming to a close, and I was pondering the next one I want to work on. Here's what I have in mind:

Map Title: FF_Mist?
Gametype: Hide & Seekish.
Theme: Multi-story fortress/japanese-themed compound on tall japanese rock islands. Open center of the map, with corridors and elevators between them surrounding it.

Guards
Class: Any except spy.
Objective: The compound has been infiltrated. Hunt down the spies and eliminate them.

Spies
Class: Spy Only.
Objective: ? This is what I need help with. There are several options:

Kill a hunted-like npc
Destroy some objectives
Stab melons growing on trees

The point, however, is to focus on the red team hunting the blue team, and the blue team avoiding them and hiding. Suggestions for achieving this end so both teams have a fun time?

Teh Hwoling Manz · 09-10-2007, 01:11 AM

sounds good but,

have you considered lazers?

paranoidkirb · 09-10-2007, 04:00 AM

You could have the spy do spy-like things like:

Hack a computer
Steal some documents
Cut off power
Set explosive charges inside the base
Activate self-destruction of base

I'd say to give spies several objectives. Adding a hunted-type person might work better if you make the hunted a pc that's not a civ. I'd recommend limiting Red Team to one or two scouts.

Etzell · 09-10-2007, 04:05 AM

I say no scouts. The fact that they can just brush up on spies and uncover them... not cool.

Ihmhi · 09-10-2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Hwoling Manz

sounds good but,

have you considered lazers?

I have a map designed in a similar fashion with lasers just like this.

Aside from that design, I hope that Imby has not forgotten about a certain map for a certain somebody. <_<

But it's cool, I won't have the cash to start up my server for a while anyway, just don't forget buddy... ):

Deadly Furby · 09-10-2007, 06:04 PM

Change the title to FF_Myst and use scenes and music from the original Myst game. Sure would be fun to experience!

jarek · 09-10-2007, 08:41 PM

i like the idea a lot, especially the spy only concept. i had similar ideas for AgencyHQ in tfc but never got around to finishing it and ended up converting it into an unfinished escape map

Johnny Mullet · 09-10-2007, 08:48 PM

What about a "Capture and Hold" type setup?

A1win · 09-11-2007, 08:48 AM

If one team has only spies, the enemy team will most likely be shooting at everyone all the time, so the disguises won't be very usefull. Then again, I don't exactly know how the cloaking works...

paranoidkirb · 09-11-2007, 09:51 PM

You could force friendly fire on for that map?

Imbrifer · 09-12-2007, 04:14 AM

All great ideas. I would like to do 'spy-like things', if possible. Perhaps something rock2 like, where the spies have to steal some documents, then sneak them out a certain exit?

But again, i kinda want the spies on the defensive, and i want to avoid the Guard team just camping some objective... Other ideas to gain this end?

Hawk Eye · 09-12-2007, 04:56 AM

You could have a 3rd team as a hunted, and have him be a spy [so he can pretend to be a guard]. Then enable FF so the guards wont just be shooting the shit outta everything.

Thus, you are left with spies who try to make 1 shot kills always, and a hunted thats all stealthy and shit. The second an enemy spy shows up, the guards would be able to automatically realize wtf just happened and own him.

But.. there are some problems with this.

Mangetsu · 09-12-2007, 05:45 AM

OMG Myst maps, crazy idea...but I support it!

Deadly Furby · 09-12-2007, 02:21 PM

Yeah, if it actually was created properly, along with the music, it could have the potential to become the talk of the mod-mapping world.

mogge · 09-13-2007, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoidkirb

Hack a computer
Steal some documents

i like paranoids idea. You could incorporate a rock2ish theme. Like the spies have to get the documents (or disc, cd, or whatever) then take it to a computer which releases a virus or something that kills only the other team (seeing as the spy is in a cyborg looking suit). Kind of like rock2 w/ the key and gas chamber. :P~~~

StatisticZ · 09-13-2007, 01:04 PM

I like the idea so far as in what you want it to look like.

stino · 09-14-2007, 10:46 AM

you could have the spies do all those objectives and let them run around the map, also make it possible to choose an order for completing objectives so you cant predict where their next move will be, or it whould result in spamming that objective..

09-10-2007, 01:10 AM	#1
Imbrifer Religious Stamp Machine Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mad City, WI Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	My Next Map: ff_mist? My current mapping projects are coming to a close, and I was pondering the next one I want to work on. Here's what I have in mind: Map Title: FF_Mist? Gametype: Hide & Seekish. Theme: Multi-story fortress/japanese-themed compound on tall japanese rock islands. Open center of the map, with corridors and elevators between them surrounding it. Guards Class: Any except spy. Objective: The compound has been infiltrated. Hunt down the spies and eliminate them. Spies Class: Spy Only. Objective: ? This is what I need help with. There are several options: Kill a hunted-like npc Destroy some objectives Stab melons growing on trees The point, however, is to focus on the red team hunting the blue team, and the blue team avoiding them and hiding. Suggestions for achieving this end so both teams have a fun time? __________________ Community Mapper 2morforever, 4play, attrition, gap, fragger and ff_training.

09-10-2007, 04:00 AM	#3
paranoidkirb Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O/D Pyro Gametype: Invade and Defend Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You could have the spy do spy-like things like: Hack a computer Steal some documents Cut off power Set explosive charges inside the base Activate self-destruction of base I'd say to give spies several objectives. Adding a hunted-type person might work better if you make the hunted a pc that's not a civ. I'd recommend limiting Red Team to one or two scouts.

09-12-2007, 04:14 AM	#11
Imbrifer Religious Stamp Machine Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mad City, WI Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	All great ideas. I would like to do 'spy-like things', if possible. Perhaps something rock2 like, where the spies have to steal some documents, then sneak them out a certain exit? But again, i kinda want the spies on the defensive, and i want to avoid the Guard team just camping some objective... Other ideas to gain this end? __________________ Community Mapper 2morforever, 4play, attrition, gap, fragger and ff_training.

09-10-2007, 01:11 AM	#2
Teh Hwoling Manz Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stan Mikita's Donuts Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	sounds good but, have you considered lazers?

09-10-2007, 04:05 AM	#4
Etzell D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I say no scouts. The fact that they can just brush up on spies and uncover them... not cool.

09-10-2007, 06:04 PM	#6
Deadly Furby Elder Scroll Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cell Block 17 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	Change the title to FF_Myst and use scenes and music from the original Myst game. Sure would be fun to experience!

09-10-2007, 08:41 PM	#7
jarek Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i like the idea a lot, especially the spy only concept. i had similar ideas for AgencyHQ in tfc but never got around to finishing it and ended up converting it into an unfinished escape map

09-10-2007, 08:48 PM	#8
Johnny Mullet Fear the Mullet! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ashtabula, Ohio Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	What about a "Capture and Hold" type setup?

09-11-2007, 08:48 AM	#9
A1win Nutcracker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kuopio, Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If one team has only spies, the enemy team will most likely be shooting at everyone all the time, so the disguises won't be very usefull. Then again, I don't exactly know how the cloaking works...

09-11-2007, 09:51 PM	#10
paranoidkirb Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O/D Pyro Gametype: Invade and Defend Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You could force friendly fire on for that map?

09-12-2007, 04:56 AM	#12
Hawk Eye Who the fuck is this guy? D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O Preferred Gametype: AvD Affiliations: [AE] Asseaters Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	You could have a 3rd team as a hunted, and have him be a spy [so he can pretend to be a guard]. Then enable FF so the guards wont just be shooting the shit outta everything. Thus, you are left with spies who try to make 1 shot kills always, and a hunted thats all stealthy and shit. The second an enemy spy shows up, the guards would be able to automatically realize wtf just happened and own him. But.. there are some problems with this.

09-12-2007, 05:45 AM	#13
Mangetsu Dangerous Pyromaniac Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	OMG Myst maps, crazy idea...but I support it!

09-12-2007, 02:21 PM	#14
Deadly Furby Elder Scroll Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cell Block 17 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	Yeah, if it actually was created properly, along with the music, it could have the potential to become the talk of the mod-mapping world.

09-13-2007, 01:04 PM	#16
StatisticZ My title is... Custom. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tri-State Area Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I like the idea so far as in what you want it to look like.

09-14-2007, 10:46 AM	#17
stino Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	you could have the spies do all those objectives and let them run around the map, also make it possible to choose an order for completing objectives so you cant predict where their next move will be, or it whould result in spamming that objective..

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