Things I hate about Clan / League play - Page 2

[AE] 82694 · 12-17-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 4est

Would you find it creepy if I hugged you?

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Originally Posted by Paft

No, please do.

Pics or it didn't happen.

417 · 12-17-2007, 05:04 PM

U Tube Baby!

4est · 12-17-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 82694

Pics or it didn't happen.

LOL... I lost it at work.

Dr.Satan · 12-17-2007, 05:29 PM

Thank you mod god!

Arx · 12-18-2007, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Meathook

so 2 engie Vs. 4 (or more) Medics?

sN's server, they can do what they want. But limiting some classes and not the really overpowered classes (Medics) is silly, IMO.

"O which is best played with fast classes"... I dont like some classes being favored over others, for which role they're allowed (encouraged) to play (O/D). It seems like more of the elitist(1) TFC mentality.

sN's server, they can do what they want.

(1) 1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
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1. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
2. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

If you have more than 2 NG's you get a team of players sitting in their base with Sentry guns. The other team is now doing the same thing, and apart from that 1v1 sniper battle going on outside, not a lot else is happening in the game.

No one wants to go attack against 4 SG's covered by 4 Engineers, 2 soldiers and a demoman. Its called a lockdown, and it makes the game very very boring.

By limiting the engineer count, it forces people to go attack, or play other defensive classes.

Personally if I had a server I would limit every class to 1, and restrict the max number of players in the server to 18. Means your team has to have 1 of each of the classes. Might be a chance of getting a decent game going like that ^

Stephen · 12-18-2007, 05:26 PM

Sounds like a great way to have an empty server.

Iggy · 12-18-2007, 08:44 PM

If you mean by forcing a full set of classes, I'd have to agree. Although I think Soulja should up the sniper count to 2, also. No classes should be limited to 1, ever(my opinion, of course). But, as has been stated, it's his server, not mine.

KubeDawg · 12-18-2007, 09:39 PM

If you have an issue with rules of a specific server, talk to them about it. No need to create a rant about something that doesn't need to change. I talked to Soulja about this, and how it could benefit his server by not limiting the classes, and hopefully he listens, but regardless, it's his server, he pays for it, so deal with it. Otherwise, play on another server. It's as simple as that. I argued and argued about the rules set on the Old Timers server about no cursing, because cursing is part of my regular vocabulary... It didn't make much sense to me why they'd disallow cursing on a video game where you see blood, gore and you kill/shoot people. To each his/her own I guess. It all boils down to it being someone's server. That's partly the reason I started my own server, free from rules such as midmapping, clan-type play, no cursing, no bhopping, the list goes on. I could truly call my server a pub, because it had no restrictions, apart from those common sensical ones each of us hold very dear :P.

So sit down, take a few deep breaths, go smoke a bowl, and continue playing.

Ihmhi · 12-19-2007, 02:37 AM

Just a warning to all parties in this thread per the forum rules, specifically this one:

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3.3. Do NOT make threads whining/complaining about how server XYZ is lame because it banned you. If you have issues with specific servers, take it up in with those individual server operators. (Emphasis by Ihmhi)

The FF forums are not the place to bitch about how other servers are run. Most servers have their own forums or, at the very least, have a way for you to talk to the admin. In this case, it's Soulja, who is on these forums - PM him if you want to discuss his server.

Dr.Satan · 12-19-2007, 03:37 PM

lol Ihmhi...I mainly made this thread to get the people out of the other thread...and TBH I expected it to be locked pretty quickly! But so far people aren't being tooo mean. We'll see tho.

Private_Joker · 12-19-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KubeDawg

To each his/her own I guess. It all boils down to it being someone's server.

I'm inclined to agree, Kube, but unfortunately the OP has a legitimate point, even though he may not know it--that is:

At this point in FF's existence, it might greatly benefit from assuming some socialist principles. Right now, every server depends moderately significantly on every other server, just because of the need to make good impressions on players which follows from the unfortunate lack of community in this game. With so few servers, each individual server represents a large portion of the community. Thus, each server has a responsibility to be agreeable to the average Fortress player (average means not just any whiny n00b, but real players).

When there's a huge list of populated servers, each server will not depend significantly on each other, and so will have little responsibility and full freedom. For now, though, I suggest that all server owners be considerate of how their treatment of players effects this whole game.

(I'm not a Marxist, I'm a consequentialist.)

The war is never over!

-Joker

Agent Buckshot Moose · 12-19-2007, 04:19 PM

TFC is an old game. TFC clan rules are old rules. FF is a new game. We need new rules.

Dr.Satan · 12-19-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Buckshot Moose

TFC is an old game. TFC clan rules are old rules. FF is a new game. We need new rules.

That's the plan man...

4est · 12-19-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Buckshot Moose

TFC is an old game. TFC clan rules are old rules. FF is a new game. We need new rules.

Dr. Satan and I have said this so many times we have started mumbling it in our sleep.

THERE ARE NO GAMEPLAY RULES IN UGC FF LEAGUE.

Pleas drive through.

Credge · 12-19-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 4est

THERE ARE NO GAMEPLAY RULES IN UGC FF LEAGUE.

Of course there isn't. 5D in a 5v5 should be allowed. I agree.

Dr.Satan · 12-19-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Credge

Of course there isn't. 5D in a 5v5 should be allowed. I agree.

why not...If you want to play that way go for it!

That just leaves you up to a 5 on assult from the opposing team meaning you will probably get capped on at least once...add in a spy to the O and that 5 D is going to get raped. it would be a stupid idea, but it's not our place to impose that rule!

Agent Buckshot Moose · 12-19-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 4est

Dr. Satan and I have said this so many times we have started mumbling it in our sleep.

THERE ARE NO GAMEPLAY RULES IN UGC FF LEAGUE.

Pleas drive through.

In the league. Some servers still find it necessary to enforce "clan rules" though. Although since the game's decline in popularity I'm not sure how many of those servers are still around...

Credge · 12-19-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

why not...If you want to play that way go for it!

This explains a lot.

Dr.Satan · 12-19-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Credge

This explains a lot.

I'm not sure where you are going with that...

Iggy · 12-19-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

why not...If you want to play that way go for it!

That just leaves you up to a 5 on assult from the opposing team meaning you will probably get capped on at least once...add in a spy to the O and that 5 D is going to get raped. it would be a stupid idea, but it's not our place to impose that rule!

Wait...you mean we're actually allowing people to be STUPID?!?! HOLY SHIT!
(Do you think it'll work?)

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12-18-2007, 09:39 PM	#28
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	If you have an issue with rules of a specific server, talk to them about it. No need to create a rant about something that doesn't need to change. I talked to Soulja about this, and how it could benefit his server by not limiting the classes, and hopefully he listens, but regardless, it's his server, he pays for it, so deal with it. Otherwise, play on another server. It's as simple as that. I argued and argued about the rules set on the Old Timers server about no cursing, because cursing is part of my regular vocabulary... It didn't make much sense to me why they'd disallow cursing on a video game where you see blood, gore and you kill/shoot people. To each his/her own I guess. It all boils down to it being someone's server. That's partly the reason I started my own server, free from rules such as midmapping, clan-type play, no cursing, no bhopping, the list goes on. I could truly call my server a pub, because it had no restrictions, apart from those common sensical ones each of us hold very dear :P. So sit down, take a few deep breaths, go smoke a bowl, and continue playing. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

12-19-2007, 03:37 PM	#30
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	lol Ihmhi...I mainly made this thread to get the people out of the other thread...and TBH I expected it to be locked pretty quickly! But so far people aren't being tooo mean. We'll see tho. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

12-18-2007, 05:26 PM	#26
Stephen Sniper hater. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sounds like a great way to have an empty server.

12-19-2007, 04:19 PM	#32
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	TFC is an old game. TFC clan rules are old rules. FF is a new game. We need new rules.

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