First Impressions of a new Beta Tester - Page 8

o_cosides · 12-03-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeStRoYeR

I agree with t00l, the general skill level has become too high over the past few years (I say "too" high.... in context).
Don't you remember back in the day, when a good amount of people on a server didn't even know the very basics??? I suspect however, that today they'd be ridiculed, whereas before they were helped along.......

So true, ppl cry that TFC dies, but whenever a noob is around

1) ppl take the piss with them ("nades? press gg in console")
2) they get totaly wasted by the more experienced players

o_t00l · 12-03-2006, 02:39 PM

I remember getting by without knowing how to bunnyhop, with no experience, and a 56k modem. I still competed in silver clans and did fine. Try doing that now.

o_jackal · 12-03-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by t00l

I remember getting by without knowing how to bunnyhop, with no experience, and a 56k modem. I still competed in silver clans and did fine. Try doing that now.

qft

o_t00l · 12-04-2006, 03:34 AM

That was all, of course, when i wasn't stealing jackal's internet connetion for matches

o_soundchaser · 12-04-2006, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Smack

learn how to bhop properly since everyone else in the playtest is dusting the shit out of me (bhop is FAST in FF).

sigh...that just might kill the game.
devs are 110% in favor of bunny hopping.

n00bs are going to cry CHEATER just like in TFC.

i saw many n00bs leave TFC just because of bhop.

i myself love the bhop...it's fast and effective.

Circuitous · 12-04-2006, 04:28 AM

Bhop's gonna be taught within the game. Not really a problem.

o_meisteh · 12-04-2006, 05:05 AM

83.36 posts per day

you are a beta tester, right?

Circuitous · 12-04-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by meisteh

83.36 posts per day

1 post a month. And this is how you waste it. Which is more depressing?

o_tyrus · 12-04-2006, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

1 post a month. And this is how you waste it. Which is more depressing?

Has it really been 371 months since he joined? lol

Circuitous · 12-04-2006, 05:19 AM

I'm not going on an average, just what he posts lately.

o_meisteh · 12-04-2006, 09:01 AM

don't take offence guy, it was primarily a stab at the suggested correlation between post counts and beta testing worthiness, which I'm quite sure didn't come from your mouth (or fingers). maybe I should be more direct but subtlety is so much more fun, though follow up posts kind of ruin it.

so yeahs like, how about dat trimpin'.

o_nodnarb · 12-04-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by meisteh

83.36 posts per day

you are a beta tester, right?

subtract about 40,000 from his post count then redo that average.

o_mrmojo · 12-04-2006, 02:32 PM

the reason tfc died was because the skill curve was way too high and the skills were too alien for newbies to learn (bunnyhopping, concing...) Look at CS, its probably more complex than TFC but it worked fine because there were no "hidden" skills and if a newbie got killed they could see that the player was just aiming better or prefiring or whatever

o_sabre · 12-04-2006, 02:50 PM

Then again CS is so utterly shit because it's so plain and boring for the more demanding players, then we get back to the age old debate of whether complex games either improve lastability of a game OR send newbies packing before they have a chance.

o_mrmojo · 12-04-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sabre

Then again CS is so utterly shit because it's so plain and boring for the more demanding players, then we get back to the age old debate of whether complex games either improve lastability of a game OR send newbies packing before they have a chance.

are you kidding cs is incredibly complex and deep on high levels of play

o_sh4x · 12-04-2006, 03:23 PM

oh please....

Take a newb at both games and ask him which game seems more complex...

I'm not saying CS doesn't have nifty hidden things to learn too, but from the eye of a newb, TF is more complex. That's what we're talking about here.

o_eat · 12-04-2006, 03:56 PM

9 classes vs 1 class
Hardly comparable is it?

**mervaka** · 12-04-2006, 04:03 PM

you can't really compare the two in terms of classes. fortress games have fixed sets of weapons and armor etc, where CS lets you choose your own (money dependent)

o_sh4x · 12-04-2006, 04:08 PM

You quickly realise that you better buy the better guns if you want to win. So in reality, the selection of gun is pretty narrow.

o_mrmojo · 12-04-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh4x

oh please....

Take a newb at both games and ask him which game seems more complex...

I'm not saying CS doesn't have nifty hidden things to learn too, but from the eye of a newb, TF is more complex. That's what we're talking about here.

thats exactly what i said, and then he said that cs was boring and shitty

honestly, team fortress isnt THAT complex, it's just that all the complexity comes from the skills that you can't learn easily.

12-04-2006, 04:28 AM	#146
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Bhop's gonna be taught within the game. Not really a problem. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

12-04-2006, 05:19 AM	#150
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I'm not going on an average, just what he posts lately. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

12-04-2006, 04:03 PM	#158
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	you can't really compare the two in terms of classes. fortress games have fixed sets of weapons and armor etc, where CS lets you choose your own (money dependent) __________________ Support FF:

12-03-2006, 02:39 PM	#142
o_t00l Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CT Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I remember getting by without knowing how to bunnyhop, with no experience, and a 56k modem. I still competed in silver clans and did fine. Try doing that now.

12-04-2006, 03:34 AM	#144
o_t00l Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CT Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That was all, of course, when i wasn't stealing jackal's internet connetion for matches

12-04-2006, 05:05 AM	#147
o_meisteh Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	83.36 posts per day you are a beta tester, right?

12-04-2006, 09:01 AM	#151
o_meisteh Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	don't take offence guy, it was primarily a stab at the suggested correlation between post counts and beta testing worthiness, which I'm quite sure didn't come from your mouth (or fingers). maybe I should be more direct but subtlety is so much more fun, though follow up posts kind of ruin it. so yeahs like, how about dat trimpin'.

12-04-2006, 02:32 PM	#153
o_mrmojo Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the reason tfc died was because the skill curve was way too high and the skills were too alien for newbies to learn (bunnyhopping, concing...) Look at CS, its probably more complex than TFC but it worked fine because there were no "hidden" skills and if a newbie got killed they could see that the player was just aiming better or prefiring or whatever

12-04-2006, 02:50 PM	#154
o_sabre Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manchester, Uk Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Then again CS is so utterly shit because it's so plain and boring for the more demanding players, then we get back to the age old debate of whether complex games either improve lastability of a game OR send newbies packing before they have a chance.

12-04-2006, 03:23 PM	#156
o_sh4x Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	oh please.... Take a newb at both games and ask him which game seems more complex... I'm not saying CS doesn't have nifty hidden things to learn too, but from the eye of a newb, TF is more complex. That's what we're talking about here.

12-04-2006, 03:56 PM	#157
o_eat Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	9 classes vs 1 class Hardly comparable is it?

12-04-2006, 04:08 PM	#159
o_sh4x Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You quickly realise that you better buy the better guns if you want to win. So in reality, the selection of gun is pretty narrow.

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