A 2v League - Page 2

Jay Mofo Mills · 06-30-2011, 06:41 PM

I'd be down to play some 2v2.

I made a 2v2 map that may need a few minor changes but is playable. I'm sure with this community you'll hear a lot of bitching but for me a change from the same old shit is welcome.

Not sure if it's uploaded anywhere, churchmouth had it on his old server a few years ago. If anyone wants to test it out and give constructive criticism I'm open.

eomoyaff · 07-01-2011, 05:19 AM

For me personally, to have a single teammate doing the exact same thing as you about 60 times avg a match just gets a little boring over time I think. There's no real reward in it. You go 3v3 I'll take an interest. Because atleast then you can have some variation to your game-play, ya? Just an opinion. This is a good effort though.

homie in reboks' · 07-01-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eomoyaff

For me personally, to have a single teammate doing the exact same thing as you about 60 times avg a match just gets a little boring over time I think.

I don't follow.

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**Elmo** · 07-01-2011, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homie in reboks'

I don't follow.

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I think he's just getting at how you can't mix things up with 2v2s. Its pretty much just one strategy n no variation. 3 players allows more options

homie in reboks' · 07-01-2011, 04:03 PM

Ah, well it is hard to mix it up now. Especially when you only play the same 4 2v maps.

But with the new changes in the most recent patch, and being open to playing non-2v maps, there is a good chance that it will not be just the same strats, same positions, and same outcomes.

It seems like there may be around 10 people interested, Euro and US, which would give the league 5 teams. So, it would be nice if a few more people posted and showed some interest.

Edit: : x does not equal

**Elmo** · 07-01-2011, 05:41 PM

yeah I hate that smiley lol.

Count me in btw. I should be okay. Though starting a new job this month so I dunno if stuff might get in the way while i'm moving home.

eomoyaff · 07-02-2011, 03:44 PM

Alright, I'll join if two things happen:

1) Rules are well decided, and create a good balance for 2v2 matches.

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2) Teams are BALANCED. - I say this because when we had that league, it was pretty much "Who can beat BOSS." And the answer to that was no one really. I think a few teams, but BOSS had the title and overall record for a long ass time. Everyone should have a chance at winning and no team should be considered "the best."

If you can make this happen, then I'm in.

**squeek.** · 07-02-2011, 09:05 PM

The balanced teams dilemma is unsolvable. People are either going to want to play with the people they want to play with or will not play at all. I'd much rather play with someone that makes the game fun than have a strictly balanced matchup every time, and it's even harder to "solve" with 2v2 given how few players per team there are to work with.

CHURCHMOUTH · 07-03-2011, 01:55 AM

pretty sure boss lost to whatever team i was on in the finals on schrape we won like 8 - 7.. the name of the team escapes me, Gator Hoop me and someone else were the 4

**Ricey** · 07-03-2011, 02:15 AM

teamfail

eomoyaff · 07-03-2011, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHURCHMOUTH

pretty sure boss lost to whatever team i was on in the finals on schrape we won like 8 - 7.. the name of the team escapes me, Gator Hoop me and someone else were the 4

reread what i put above. I stated that they did actually loose a few times. Brb, skimming through posts.

~Yoda~ · 08-11-2011, 12:34 AM

Ide invest into a decent computer if someone made an organized 2v league for this game. In my opinion, league play made up for at least half the community when this game was in its prime. Its a competitive game. Someone do this mod a favor and save it via creating a 2v league.

homie in reboks' · 08-14-2011, 07:37 PM

I've recently moved and am without internet connection. So, I won't be able to run anything, even though I really would like to. Sorry

~Yoda~ · 12-17-2011, 06:43 AM

It be cool if someone would start a 2v league for this game. I still care enough about this game to help the community. We got enough players for a decent 2v league rite now and the competitiveness of it could draw players. I know for a fact a lot of players quit playing because leagues such as ugc and the 4v league we had going died. Theres plenty of players that are interested in organized competition play but dont care for pubs. Who knows couldnt hurt ide even be willing to provide a server for the league if someones willing to make the site or whatevers needed. Talk to me on steam or something if your interested

absolute · 12-20-2011, 04:08 AM

I am (potentially) working on this with Squeek.

punkrockrocks · 12-23-2011, 06:45 PM

A friend and I would play this, and we might be able to get some others to try it as well. I hope this works out

oaties · 12-29-2011, 11:56 PM

MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

Im tired of pickups all day (by all day I mean 2-3 at night). I want to play some league games.

Also, in terms of maps, many maps can be played 2v2 by just disabling certain routes. SD2, for example, is a great 4v4 map but is good for 2v2 by not allowing plank.

Another example could be destroy. If you dont allow button, and only allow people to go button to deactive security it would be great for 2v2, 2 scouts on O, a main ramp soldier and a soldier on the flag in FR. Imo, many maps work for 2v2 than you think, theres alot of good maps that would work for 2v2. Mortality without the top, for example, could be fun for 2v2.

absolute · 12-30-2011, 03:54 PM

Hey All.

I am preparing to contact some major leagues to see if we can get some official FF action.

The standard 8v8 / 9v9 will probably not be a go in this modern era of gaming. Teams will probably be 5v5 -> 7v7.

We may need some of you veteran players to volunteer as admins. This would require writing rules, recruiting staff and administrating a division.

My goal is to get some correspondence going in the next ~2 months.

-Abs

oaties · 12-30-2011, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by absolute

Hey All.

I am preparing to contact some major leagues to see if we can get some official FF action.

The standard 8v8 / 9v9 will probably not be a go in this modern era of gaming. Teams will probably be 5v5 -> 7v7.

We may need some of you veteran players to volunteer as admins. This would require writing rules, recruiting staff and administrating a division.

My goal is to get some correspondence going in the next ~2 months.

-Abs

Nice Absolute, congrats on become a FF dev! Good luck in making FF popular, I would be so happy if you made a league and got it active.

moosh · 12-31-2011, 12:14 PM

yeah guys i suggest you wake up and smell the bad smell of "we already tried this before and it failed miserably when ff had a more active playerbase" but if you want to waste your time then good luck anyway

- McNoFunPants

07-01-2011, 04:03 PM	#25
homie in reboks' Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: USA Class/Position: Soldier & Medic Affiliations: ( ir :: ) iv\| K^ † Posts Rated Helpful 80 Times	Ah, well it is hard to mix it up now. Especially when you only play the same 4 2v maps. But with the new changes in the most recent patch, and being open to playing non-2v maps, there is a good chance that it will not be just the same strats, same positions, and same outcomes. It seems like there may be around 10 people interested, Euro and US, which would give the league 5 teams. So, it would be nice if a few more people posted and showed some interest. Edit: : x does not equal __________________ Last edited by homie in reboks'; 07-01-2011 at 04:04 PM.
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07-01-2011, 05:41 PM	#26
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07-02-2011, 09:05 PM	#28
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07-03-2011, 01:55 AM	#29
CHURCHMOUTH crystaLcity D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Soldier D Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: Goodfellas Posts Rated Helpful 7 Times	pretty sure boss lost to whatever team i was on in the finals on schrape we won like 8 - 7.. the name of the team escapes me, Gator Hoop me and someone else were the 4 __________________ 83745 L0LZ ff_nyx_b2 ff_schrape_b3 ff_security_b1 ff_baked_b2 ff_reloaded_b1 ff_mulch_dm_b2 ff_oppose_b1

07-03-2011, 02:15 AM	#30
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06-30-2011, 06:41 PM	#21
Jay Mofo Mills Jay\|mOfO\|Mills Beta Tester Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Santa Fe, NM Gametype: Snag the flag beotches Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	I'd be down to play some 2v2. I made a 2v2 map that may need a few minor changes but is playable. I'm sure with this community you'll hear a lot of bitching but for me a change from the same old shit is welcome. Not sure if it's uploaded anywhere, churchmouth had it on his old server a few years ago. If anyone wants to test it out and give constructive criticism I'm open.

07-01-2011, 05:19 AM	#22
eomoyaff The Crowbar Commander Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Class/Position: Anything. Gametype: CTF/CP (AvD needs fixing) Posts Rated Helpful 28 Times	For me personally, to have a single teammate doing the exact same thing as you about 60 times avg a match just gets a little boring over time I think. There's no real reward in it. You go 3v3 I'll take an interest. Because atleast then you can have some variation to your game-play, ya? Just an opinion. This is a good effort though.

07-02-2011, 03:44 PM	#27
eomoyaff The Crowbar Commander Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Class/Position: Anything. Gametype: CTF/CP (AvD needs fixing) Posts Rated Helpful 28 Times	Alright, I'll join if two things happen: 1) Rules are well decided, and create a good balance for 2v2 matches. & 2) Teams are BALANCED. - I say this because when we had that league, it was pretty much "Who can beat BOSS." And the answer to that was no one really. I think a few teams, but BOSS had the title and overall record for a long ass time. Everyone should have a chance at winning and no team should be considered "the best." If you can make this happen, then I'm in.

08-11-2011, 12:34 AM	#32
~Yoda~ Devil Dog D&A Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Class/Position: scout/solly/demo/medic Gametype: clanstyle Affiliations: Enternal order Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ide invest into a decent computer if someone made an organized 2v league for this game. In my opinion, league play made up for at least half the community when this game was in its prime. Its a competitive game. Someone do this mod a favor and save it via creating a 2v league.

08-14-2011, 07:37 PM	#33
homie in reboks' Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: USA Class/Position: Soldier & Medic Affiliations: ( ir :: ) iv\| K^ † Posts Rated Helpful 80 Times	I've recently moved and am without internet connection. So, I won't be able to run anything, even though I really would like to. Sorry __________________

12-17-2011, 06:43 AM	#34
~Yoda~ Devil Dog D&A Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Class/Position: scout/solly/demo/medic Gametype: clanstyle Affiliations: Enternal order Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It be cool if someone would start a 2v league for this game. I still care enough about this game to help the community. We got enough players for a decent 2v league rite now and the competitiveness of it could draw players. I know for a fact a lot of players quit playing because leagues such as ugc and the 4v league we had going died. Theres plenty of players that are interested in organized competition play but dont care for pubs. Who knows couldnt hurt ide even be willing to provide a server for the league if someones willing to make the site or whatevers needed. Talk to me on steam or something if your interested

12-20-2011, 04:08 AM	#35
absolute *VP Marketing* D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kitchener, On Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	I am (potentially) working on this with Squeek.

12-23-2011, 06:45 PM	#36
punkrockrocks When patch will out? Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	A friend and I would play this, and we might be able to get some others to try it as well. I hope this works out __________________ MAKE MORE ESCAPE MAPS Ingame: punkrock Idle and support #nozoom, #ff.pickup

12-29-2011, 11:56 PM	#37
oaties Join Date: Nov 2010 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 38 Times	MAKE THIS HAPPEN! Im tired of pickups all day (by all day I mean 2-3 at night). I want to play some league games. Also, in terms of maps, many maps can be played 2v2 by just disabling certain routes. SD2, for example, is a great 4v4 map but is good for 2v2 by not allowing plank. Another example could be destroy. If you dont allow button, and only allow people to go button to deactive security it would be great for 2v2, 2 scouts on O, a main ramp soldier and a soldier on the flag in FR. Imo, many maps work for 2v2 than you think, theres alot of good maps that would work for 2v2. Mortality without the top, for example, could be fun for 2v2. Last edited by oaties; 12-30-2011 at 12:04 AM.

12-30-2011, 03:54 PM	#38
absolute *VP Marketing* D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kitchener, On Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	Hey All. I am preparing to contact some major leagues to see if we can get some official FF action. The standard 8v8 / 9v9 will probably not be a go in this modern era of gaming. Teams will probably be 5v5 -> 7v7. We may need some of you veteran players to volunteer as admins. This would require writing rules, recruiting staff and administrating a division. My goal is to get some correspondence going in the next ~2 months. -Abs
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12-31-2011, 12:14 PM	#40
moosh WhenNailGrenWillOut? Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Gametype: mp_prematch Affiliations: [:)] - Frag Happy, babe\| Posts Rated Helpful 29 Times	yeah guys i suggest you wake up and smell the bad smell of "we already tried this before and it failed miserably when ff had a more active playerbase" but if you want to waste your time then good luck anyway - McNoFunPants __________________ [[ ff_hotfudge - bhop_theonlyone ]] "As the the new year approaches I await for it like an case of explosive fecalomania otherwise know as diareha or the massive shits. I am gripping the sides of the toilet as my stomach produces the first hollow thud out of the anus of the year to come." DarkeN_HellspawN Last edited by moosh; 12-31-2011 at 12:15 PM.

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