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Old 04-10-2008, 08:14 PM   #61
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If a few kareem abdul jabars showed up to play on the publics side, then so be it.
Kareem Abdul Jabars is (was?) a clanner. Try again.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:30 PM   #62
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Kareem Abdul Jabars is (was?) a clanner. Try again.
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This is about more then just "pubs" this is about people who have decided not to be in a clan, this about the lone wolf who hunts by him/herself.

People who play in the clans seem to think that if you aint in a clan, you aint jack. Well, there are some of us who have decided not to be in a clan. For what ever reason it is, some people just do not want to be aligned with a group and I am one of those people - and I am sure there are a lot more out there.

This is about respect. Just because you have a logo or letters in front of your name does not mean that you are better then me.

The term "pubs are a waste of time" - is an insult to those Lone Wolf types.
I am one of those people. And I say pubs are a waste of time. I actually think they make you worse.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:34 PM   #63
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I say STFU and get your teams together post a rosters and lets get it on.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:38 PM   #64
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lol this is epic...pubbers v clanners 2008

Vinny, I'm sorry you can't play you absolutely MUST broadcast this match!

Orrrrrrrr find someone else too!

So far it looks like we have the clanners team of:

gator, vinny (if he's not broadcasting), me, TML, Credge, and doompiggy (clanner or pubber doom?)

And a pubbers team of whoever you drag out of the mindless pubs to play.

AE clan has offered up their server...

Any one else want in on this shit?

what day / time? I want to see this happen!

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Also that was fucking hilarious man!
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:40 PM   #65
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pfft doom wont play.

i want in if possible. let me know when this is happening and i will see if i can bring my laptop up to the school to steal their internet.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:44 PM   #66
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I am one of those people. And I say pubs are a waste of time. I actually think they make you worse.
I disagree, what if there were no pubs? How would someone get into clanning? I view pubs as a stepping stone to something bigger and greater, but everyone's gotta start somewhere. Plus (now I'm going to use FF as a good example here), look at our population, we are still seriously lacking any significant player base, so you got a choice, sit around wait for a fellow clanner to come around (do nothing), or play pubs. the ff.pickup channel could be dead all night, and refusing to play a pub while waiting for a pickup or clan practice is well... counterproductive.

I don't think pubs help you get better at the "style" of play clan's require, but they definately offer open opportunities to practice things, you can as a player choose not to play like a "random pubber" and focus on individual skill.

For example, I play pubs all the time as solly because I like to practice rpg air shots, in clan/pickup environment that's really hard to do in many situations. But in a pub people are flying around left right and center, giving ample opportunity to waste as many rockets as you want at people flying around.

Pubs are a great place to practice individual skill, so I don't really agree with that comment that playing on pubs make you worse. You definately can't go from zero to hero by hopping straight into clanning.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:44 PM   #67
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sweet skanky's in!

doom can be a reserve pub player in case one of them drops out due to the humiliation?
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:56 PM   #68
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I disagree, what if there were no pubs? How would someone get into clanning? I view pubs as a stepping stone to something bigger and greater, but everyone's gotta start somewhere. Plus (now I'm going to use FF as a good example here), look at our population, we are still seriously lacking any significant player base, so you got a choice, sit around wait for a fellow clanner to come around (do nothing), or play pubs. the ff.pickup channel could be dead all night, and refusing to play a pub while waiting for a pickup or clan practice is well... counterproductive.

I don't think pubs help you get better at the "style" of play clan's require, but they definately offer open opportunities to practice things, you can as a player choose not to play like a "random pubber" and focus on individual skill.

For example, I play pubs all the time as solly because I like to practice rpg air shots, in clan/pickup environment that's really hard to do in many situations. But in a pub people are flying around left right and center, giving ample opportunity to waste as many rockets as you want at people flying around.

Pubs are a great place to practice individual skill, so I don't really agree with that comment that playing on pubs make you worse. You definately can't go from zero to hero by hopping straight into clanning.
At the moment, there really is no gray area between clanning and pubbing, which is a shame. I got into "clanning" from watching my brother play and then playing on clanstyle TFC servers (Odin's Graveyard). FF currently does not have an active clanstyle server, mostly because that style of play is, for some reason, shunned by the public community. Because there are no new players willing to play in a clanstyle server, we, the "clanners", have to resort to making a private (semi-private) pickup community to account for that. I'd love to see an Odin's-style server pop up for FF that actually promotes and enforces clanstyle play, and provides a way for good players to get better in a public server. But, at the moment, all active pubs will (in my opinion) make me a worse player. It will give me bad habits (not having to hit good concs, spamming, not having to worry about friendly-fire, playing against bad players that don't even conc as scout, etc) that will carry over into pickups and beyond.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:57 PM   #69
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You are the one not understanding something - this is a challenge thread.

And for some reason you keep trying to derail it. WTF dude, this aint a discussion thread. This thread is being used to throw the glove down, not talk about "why" it was throw down. I did not start this thread to talk about the logic of pubs / non-clanners / pick up games.

This thread was started to challenge to TML to a game. And all you want to do is talk about the logic behind the the challenge - screw that.

If you want in on the action, fine - the more the merrier. So either step aside or accept / join the challenge.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:59 PM   #70
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Here ya go ~kev~
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:01 PM   #71
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:02 PM   #72
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Looks like your playing on a 486, geez, get an upgrade sometime soon.

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lol this is epic...pubbers v clanners 2008

Vinny, I'm sorry you can't play you absolutely MUST broadcast this match!

Orrrrrrrr find someone else too!

So far it looks like we have the clanners team of:

gator, vinny (if he's not broadcasting), me, TML, Credge, and doompiggy (clanner or pubber doom?)

And a pubbers team of whoever you drag out of the mindless pubs to play.

AE clan has offered up their server...

Any one else want in on this shit?

what day / time? I want to see this happen!



Also that was fucking hilarious man!
I want to be there to watch this. Ive only been to one freaking pickup and saw the difference between pub/clanners, this kev guy is in heap of trouble.

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Old 04-10-2008, 09:07 PM   #74
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So good.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:11 PM   #75
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FF currently does not have an active clanstyle server, mostly because that style of play is, for some reason, shunned by the public community.
Actually i found one the other day...ViLE plays in it ask him for the IP!

But I agree there aren't enough and especially none like Odin's that server rocked!
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:18 PM   #76
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Actually i found one the other day...ViLE plays in it ask him for the IP!

But I agree there aren't enough and especially none like Odin's that server rocked!
Yeah, ViLE has tried starting a couple... but they just don't have a chance to catch on in the current public scene I don't think.
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lol this is epic...pubbers v clanners 2008

Vinny, ... you absolutely MUST broadcast this match!
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LMFAO Infy that is hilarious!

@Squeek - I know...it's a shame cause now I never play unless it's a pickup or a prac / scrim / match

So odd, our community is made up mostly of TFC vets and yet a true clan style server gets shunned.
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So odd, our community is made up mostly of TFC vets and yet a true clan style server gets shunned.

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