FF 1.1 Changelog WIP - Page 7

DrEvil · 10-22-2007, 03:50 PM

For me, it was more about the potential for abuse than the minor issues of the sg shooting a dispenser that happened to kill the spy or locking on to another nearby sentry. The main motivation for that fix is that an engineeer could exploit the targeting behavior by building a nearby dispenser and not having to worry about being shot, as the sg would target it first when sabotaged, giving players enough warning to avoid it.

GeoKill-----> · 10-23-2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by a082

animations for shotgun and medic ?

FF Needs an Animator first

s0undch4s3r · 10-23-2007, 07:13 AM

"Changed grenade and pipe damage radius up a bit"

EVIL LAUGH: MUAH AHAHAH AHAHAH.....I like it!!!

a082 · 10-23-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoKill----->

FF Needs an Animator first

FF did not have Animator now?

KubeDawg · 10-23-2007, 03:47 PM

Screw talking about sabotoging SGs, lets first figure out how to disable idiots from building in doorways/spawns.... That is incredibly annoying and it's making people quit the game very fast...

greenday5494 · 10-23-2007, 06:42 PM

yea. and we really need animators, the no animations look rather poor...

Dr.Satan · 10-23-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KubeDawg

Screw talking about sabotoging SGs, lets first figure out how to disable idiots from building in doorways/spawns.... That is incredibly annoying and it's making people quit the game very fast...

Totally agree...Push is a prime example of this! But couldn't that all be done in the mapping stage? some maps doorways are good to build in, but if the mapper just puts a nobuild out a few feet from the respawn, I think that would solve most of the grief...

Dr.Uudge · 10-24-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Uudge

[edit] by the way, does anyone know if some of the maps will also be tweaked, like ff_well and the spawn sniper-blocking and spamming issues?

also, does anyone know if the sg-wall-building thing is gonna get addressed in the next patch?

EquilibriuM · 10-24-2007, 02:50 AM

agree with kube lets get the no build in spawn doors taken care of
and i want quad to work too so we can do some demoman soldier quad jump maps ftw yeh?

Jiggles · 10-24-2007, 06:24 PM

Yeah, hopefully those will be addressed in the patch. We're testing it right now to see. I don't think the build-in-displacements issue will be totally resolved this patch, but (post-patch) the SGs shouldn't be able to be put totally in displacements.

MASH · 10-25-2007, 06:48 AM

also, in regards to buildables in doorways, on well if ur teammate builds a sg in doorway of your own capture point, u cant cap the enemies flag (cant get past sg as it blocks the hole). very annoying. nothing can be done unless friendly fire is on

also, is the conc bar dissapearing trick going to be fixed? as in when a nade is primed the bar sometimes dissapears randomly, regardless of if its dropped or hh.

finally, is there a rought ETA of this patch? cos im hoping to god it will bring player numbers back up.

cheers

MASH · 10-25-2007, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeRo SkillZ

agree with kube lets get the no build in spawn doors taken care of
and i want quad to work too so we can do some demoman soldier quad jump maps ftw yeh?

noob question, what is quad? (4 rocket jumps in a row?)

KubeDawg · 10-25-2007, 07:04 AM

Quad allows the effect of a rocket to hit you for 4 times the amt of damage it normally would, but also has 4 times the distance you can travel with 1 rocket. Coupled with invulnerability, you cannot die, which is where rocket jump maps come into play for the most part.

SoBe Green · 10-25-2007, 03:43 PM

And its really fun if used right in some novelty maps

Ihmhi · 10-25-2007, 05:09 PM

Yeah some maps would give you something like quad damage for capturing the flag (for like 30 seconds), or civvies on maps like ukfootie would have quad since they were goalies and only had the umbrella. d:

Dr.Satan · 10-25-2007, 06:55 PM

I also just wanted to add that if / when this is brought back please keep the old quad and invinsibility icons...just for nostalgic reasons!

Rutabeggar · 10-26-2007, 07:02 AM

K, 1.1 out plz, been almost 3 weeks...possibly more...game is on life support, and Gabe Newell is standing next to the outlet where the plug goes...

SoBe Green · 10-26-2007, 03:28 PM

Yea but he has 20 thanksgiving turkeys on the other table next to him. That should buy us a few days.

KubeDawg · 10-26-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBe Green

Yea but he has 20 thanksgiving turkeys on the other table next to him. That should buy us a few days.

hahahaha! Grab the portal gun and shoot one above/below him! So he will be infinitely trying to grab teh turkey leg.

greenday5494 · 10-26-2007, 07:49 PM

ROFL at the turkeys. and the donoaghts are right next to em too! we have lots of time now....

OH CRAP HES EATING REALLY FAST. KEEL HIM!

(thats right stankyfingers, i stole your word! >: )

10-23-2007, 03:47 PM	#125
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	Screw talking about sabotoging SGs, lets first figure out how to disable idiots from building in doorways/spawns.... That is incredibly annoying and it's making people quit the game very fast... __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

10-24-2007, 02:50 AM	#129
EquilibriuM G9- D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Class/Position: D Solly,Engy Gametype: ALL Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	agree with kube lets get the no build in spawn doors taken care of and i want quad to work too so we can do some demoman soldier quad jump maps ftw yeh? Last edited by EquilibriuM; 10-24-2007 at 02:57 AM.

10-25-2007, 07:04 AM	#133
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	Quad allows the effect of a rocket to hit you for 4 times the amt of damage it normally would, but also has 4 times the distance you can travel with 1 rocket. Coupled with invulnerability, you cannot die, which is where rocket jump maps come into play for the most part. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

10-25-2007, 05:09 PM	#135
Ihmhi [AE] 0112 Ihmhi SJB Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newark, NJ, United States Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin' Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin' Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, SJB Straight Jacket Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Yeah some maps would give you something like quad damage for capturing the flag (for like 30 seconds), or civvies on maps like ukfootie would have quad since they were goalies and only had the umbrella. d: __________________ Support FF: Anime: The Thread: Reloaded The one and only anime thread on these here forums. Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.

10-25-2007, 06:55 PM	#136
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	I also just wanted to add that if / when this is brought back please keep the old quad and invinsibility icons...just for nostalgic reasons! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

10-22-2007, 03:50 PM	#121
DrEvil Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	For me, it was more about the potential for abuse than the minor issues of the sg shooting a dispenser that happened to kill the spy or locking on to another nearby sentry. The main motivation for that fix is that an engineeer could exploit the targeting behavior by building a nearby dispenser and not having to worry about being shot, as the sg would target it first when sabotaged, giving players enough warning to avoid it.

10-23-2007, 07:13 AM	#123
s0undch4s3r The guy you love to hate. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Under your bed Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	"Changed grenade and pipe damage radius up a bit" EVIL LAUGH: MUAH AHAHAH AHAHAH.....I like it!!!

10-23-2007, 06:42 PM	#126
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	yea. and we really need animators, the no animations look rather poor...

10-24-2007, 06:24 PM	#130
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, hopefully those will be addressed in the patch. We're testing it right now to see. I don't think the build-in-displacements issue will be totally resolved this patch, but (post-patch) the SGs shouldn't be able to be put totally in displacements.

10-25-2007, 06:48 AM	#131
MASH Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	also, in regards to buildables in doorways, on well if ur teammate builds a sg in doorway of your own capture point, u cant cap the enemies flag (cant get past sg as it blocks the hole). very annoying. nothing can be done unless friendly fire is on also, is the conc bar dissapearing trick going to be fixed? as in when a nade is primed the bar sometimes dissapears randomly, regardless of if its dropped or hh. finally, is there a rought ETA of this patch? cos im hoping to god it will bring player numbers back up. cheers

10-25-2007, 03:43 PM	#134
SoBe Green SoBe Yourself Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Russellville, AR Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	And its really fun if used right in some novelty maps

10-26-2007, 07:02 AM	#137
Rutabeggar D&A Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	K, 1.1 out plz, been almost 3 weeks...possibly more...game is on life support, and Gabe Newell is standing next to the outlet where the plug goes...

10-26-2007, 03:28 PM	#138
SoBe Green SoBe Yourself Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Russellville, AR Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yea but he has 20 thanksgiving turkeys on the other table next to him. That should buy us a few days.

10-26-2007, 07:49 PM	#140
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	ROFL at the turkeys. and the donoaghts are right next to em too! we have lots of time now.... OH CRAP HES EATING REALLY FAST. KEEL HIM! (thats right stankyfingers, i stole your word! >: )

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