TF2 Doomed? Sorry... - Page 2

mistermojo · 03-26-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ~kev~

Have you ever read the story of the wolf and the grapes? Its a point of giving up. I am tired of the lying, teasing and the empty promises. Its like a cheating / lying spouse, girl friend/boy friend. Thats it, I am tired of the lies and empty promises, its over - valve can take its TF2 and cram it.

haha wow! I hope no one tells Valve about their loss of 40$, they will be devastated

~kev~ · 03-26-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mistermojo

haha wow! I hope no one tells Valve about their loss of 40$, they will be devastated

Its not just "my" 40 dollars, its the $40 times X number of people that have lost interest over the years.

Its not just about "40 dollars," its a form of protest. Has no one here ever protested or boycotted a product?

If not buying a product is my way of protesting the 9 years it has taken to develop TF2, please do not mock me because of it.

VICE · 03-26-2007, 03:58 PM

YAY! Another TF2 thread!

IBTL!

radio · 03-26-2007, 05:12 PM

that sounds absolutely dreadful but i have to give it a spin. hopefully there will be a demo or something.

PsYcNeT · 03-26-2007, 05:21 PM

Amusing images aside, this has been discussed a few dozen times already, and is just an excuse for guys like kev and the rest to tootle their agenda.

That said, if the game sucks I won't play it, but we don't know if it will suck.

I try not to be a dickheaded purist when it comes to most games, or at least not since I was 14 (see: transition from QWTF to TFC)

In summary: have an open mind, and the world is your oyster.

Fjorn · 03-26-2007, 05:22 PM

err, you do know the history of TF2, right?

"Okay, now that we've made TF, we're gonna make TF2 eventually..."
"As valve has hired us, we're going to make TF2 on their engine"
"Oh hey, this hl2 engine sounds neat, we're going to delay TF2 for hl2's engine, due to limitations of the hl1 engine"
"Okay, now that hl2 is out and steady, we're making TF2"

PsYcNeT · 03-26-2007, 05:34 PM

History = shit

Who cares if you feel 'jerked around' as a gamer? or 'teased' or 'letdown'

Get some real expectations for life and games won't be that important :/ (not to put too fine a point on things)

If it is eventually released and the game doesn't suck from an OPEN and STRAIGHTFORWARD standpoint, then who cares about it's history.

God, it's not like game companies owe us anything.

Fjorn · 03-26-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

History = shit

Who cares if you feel 'jerked around' as a gamer? or 'teased' or 'letdown'

Get some real expectations for life and games won't be that important :/ (not to put too fine a point on things)

If it is eventually released and the game doesn't suck from an OPEN and STRAIGHTFORWARD standpoint, then who cares about it's history.

God, it's not like game companies owe us anything.

Sorry, wasn't aiming that at you, was aiming it at kav, who said all that stuff.

own3r · 03-26-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fjorn

err, you do know the history of TF2, right?

"Okay, now that we've made TF, we're gonna make TF2 eventually..."
"As valve has hired us, we're going to make TF2 on their engine"
"Oh hey, this hl2 engine sounds neat, we're going to delay TF2 for hl2's engine, due to limitations of the hl1 engine"
"Okay, now that hl2 is out and steady, we're making TF2"

Sounds reasonable, developing new products is a slow business. Valve has been smart to develop the source platform and maturing it before starting TF2.
I would rather that than have teething issues with bleeding edge tech.

PsYcNeT · 03-26-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fjorn

Sorry, wasn't aiming that at you, was aiming it at kav, who said all that stuff.

Quotes are yer friend

but sorry for the attack as well, I just haven't had any coffee today

SilentButDeadly · 03-26-2007, 05:44 PM

I am excited for both FF and TF2. I am a diehard fan of the fortress style gameplay. They only thing that worries me about TF2 is the medic class.. His weapons look like they might be weak against the opponents, and it just may not be a class that people pick as much. It will definitely be interesting to play TF2 though. I am sure they have implemented some good ideas and gameplay into this game that would make it more enjoyable.

**mervaka** · 03-26-2007, 05:57 PM

remember their intention of the medic in TF2 was to stop him being used as the main offensive class of the team, and bring him back into a support role. if you want my honest opinion though, TF has too many very specialist classes, but to remain true it's got to be carried on forever more..

puppychow · 03-26-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ~kev~

Its not just "my" 40 dollars, its the $40 times X number of people that have lost interest over the years.

Its not just about "40 dollars," its a form of protest. Has no one here ever protested or boycotted a product?

If not buying a product is my way of protesting the 9 years it has taken to develop TF2, please do not mock me because of it.

you sir overestimate the # of people who won't buy tf2 b/c of your listed reasons. people like to whine and bitch in forums and seem all dedicated to a stance like "fuck valve and how long it took - they wont get MY $$$$!" - but 99% of them still will buy it - and love it. as you will as well punky brewester. you will buy it too. and you know it.

Lost · 03-26-2007, 07:45 PM

Having each class use its own set of weapons is a way to force diversity but it wasn't very popular with DoD:S. How many of you that play DoD:S pwn n00bs with the panzershrek/bazooka class? And how many get accused of hacking/being lame for doing it? Its just a mean ass setup and I don't think it was supposed to be.

fishBurger · 03-26-2007, 08:10 PM

DOD is not a class game.

there are 6 different weapon layouts, but the only difference between classes is weapons, and theyre drop-and-pick-up-able, so the only real difference is sidearms/grenades/melee... Not a class game.

FrenchToast · 03-26-2007, 08:26 PM

Good to see the FF fanbase is just as retarded as always.

If TF2 is good, I'll enjoy playing it with the intelligent people here.

Skanky Butterpuss · 03-26-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost

How many of you that play DoD:S pwn n00bs with the panzershrek/bazooka class? And how many get accused of hacking/being lame for doing it?

me, and never...

but i havent played in a few months, maybe things have change in those servers

Circuitous · 03-26-2007, 09:28 PM

I'm 100% going to play TF2 as soon as it comes out. I don't give a shit about "9 year wait" (did you even see the original version? God damn am I glad they scrapped it). That game will be mine and we will be friends and French Toast and I will pwn it up and fuck the rest of ya.

~kev~ · 03-26-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by puppychow

they wont get MY $$$$!" - but 99% of them still will buy it - and love it. as you will as well punky brewester. you will buy it too. and you know it.

If TF2 is sold separate from episode 2 - then NO I will not buy it, at least not for a very, very long time.

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Get some real expectations for life and games won't be that important :/ (not to put too fine a point on things)

Sir, I am 39 years old, married to a loving wife with 4 children. I am happy and content with my life. Games are a break from the harsh reality of everyday life. When a company lies and misleads its loyal fan base, over and over again - sometimes you just have to say, I have had enough.

s0undch4s3r · 03-26-2007, 09:40 PM

No NADES??....errrr TF2 just lost it for me if this is true.

What a boring game that would be.

Nades are what makes the game funny as hell.....the laugh
factor involved is why I play....the pwnage and the punishment
from NADES is the way things ought to be.

FF all the way.....NADES AND ALL!!!

03-26-2007, 05:57 PM	#32
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	remember their intention of the medic in TF2 was to stop him being used as the main offensive class of the team, and bring him back into a support role. if you want my honest opinion though, TF has too many very specialist classes, but to remain true it's got to be carried on forever more.. __________________ Support FF:

03-26-2007, 07:45 PM	#34
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Having each class use its own set of weapons is a way to force diversity but it wasn't very popular with DoD:S. How many of you that play DoD:S pwn n00bs with the panzershrek/bazooka class? And how many get accused of hacking/being lame for doing it? Its just a mean ass setup and I don't think it was supposed to be. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

03-26-2007, 08:10 PM	#35
fishBurger get off my lawn Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O scout / demo Gametype: killing Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	DOD is not a class game. there are 6 different weapon layouts, but the only difference between classes is weapons, and theyre drop-and-pick-up-able, so the only real difference is sidearms/grenades/melee... Not a class game. __________________ That means that either you are an American, or you are NOT an American. There is no hyphenated exception. -Iggy

03-26-2007, 08:26 PM	#36
FrenchToast The 1337est D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Omagosh Canada. Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Good to see the FF fanbase is just as retarded as always. If TF2 is good, I'll enjoy playing it with the intelligent people here. __________________ James, while John had had 'had', had had 'had had' ; 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher.

03-26-2007, 09:40 PM	#40
s0undch4s3r The guy you love to hate. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Under your bed Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	No NADES??....errrr TF2 just lost it for me if this is true. What a boring game that would be. Nades are what makes the game funny as hell.....the laugh factor involved is why I play....the pwnage and the punishment from NADES is the way things ought to be. FF all the way.....NADES AND ALL!!! Last edited by s0undch4s3r; 03-26-2007 at 09:51 PM.

03-26-2007, 03:58 PM	#23
VICE Corned Beef Marmalade Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	YAY! Another TF2 thread! IBTL!

03-26-2007, 05:12 PM	#24
radio Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	that sounds absolutely dreadful but i have to give it a spin. hopefully there will be a demo or something.

03-26-2007, 05:21 PM	#25
PsYcNeT Black Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Amusing images aside, this has been discussed a few dozen times already, and is just an excuse for guys like kev and the rest to tootle their agenda. That said, if the game sucks I won't play it, but we don't know if it will suck. I try not to be a dickheaded purist when it comes to most games, or at least not since I was 14 (see: transition from QWTF to TFC) In summary: have an open mind, and the world is your oyster.

03-26-2007, 05:22 PM	#26
Fjorn Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	err, you do know the history of TF2, right? "Okay, now that we've made TF, we're gonna make TF2 eventually..." "As valve has hired us, we're going to make TF2 on their engine" "Oh hey, this hl2 engine sounds neat, we're going to delay TF2 for hl2's engine, due to limitations of the hl1 engine" "Okay, now that hl2 is out and steady, we're making TF2"

03-26-2007, 05:34 PM	#27
PsYcNeT Black Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	History = shit Who cares if you feel 'jerked around' as a gamer? or 'teased' or 'letdown' Get some real expectations for life and games won't be that important :/ (not to put too fine a point on things) If it is eventually released and the game doesn't suck from an OPEN and STRAIGHTFORWARD standpoint, then who cares about it's history. God, it's not like game companies owe us anything.

03-26-2007, 05:44 PM	#31
SilentButDeadly Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I am excited for both FF and TF2. I am a diehard fan of the fortress style gameplay. They only thing that worries me about TF2 is the medic class.. His weapons look like they might be weak against the opponents, and it just may not be a class that people pick as much. It will definitely be interesting to play TF2 though. I am sure they have implemented some good ideas and gameplay into this game that would make it more enjoyable.

03-26-2007, 09:28 PM	#38
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I'm 100% going to play TF2 as soon as it comes out. I don't give a shit about "9 year wait" (did you even see the original version? God damn am I glad they scrapped it). That game will be mine and we will be friends and French Toast and I will pwn it up and fuck the rest of ya.

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