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Old 05-06-2010, 01:17 AM   #1
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Phillies Spectator Tasered when he runs out on the field and evades Police


Anyone catch this tasering? Anyone want to discuss it? Seems like it's a popular topic today.

BTW, I linked it as it's proxying for ESPN and I don't think it loads correctly on the forums...
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:44 AM   #2
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I don't see why this is a big deal.
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Old 05-06-2010, 04:18 AM   #3
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He got what was coming to him, and it was Blanton's first game of the year. Happened again the next day when Hamel's was pitching, Top of the Ninth.

I'm not surprised it didn't happened tonight, that and Kendrick pitched a good game.
Sad thing is, the kid called his dad and asked if he could do it, the father said yes. Then Hamel's game, the guy posted it on Twitter and Facebook, wouldn't doubt if he's deleted both of them already, along with his myspace page.

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2010/05...t-covered.html

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2010/05...nt-use-it.html

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2010/05...douchebag.html

Yea, pretty much every phillies fan including myself think both of these guys are fucking douche bags and should be tased many times more.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:42 PM   #4
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The focal point of the controversy is whether the taser should have been used. I'm OK with it being used and I think that "douchebag" is the perfect word for this little punk.
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I was actually at a bar 3 pints in when I saw that. Everyone in the bar was like wtf at first then we all started cheering. I still can't believe they tazer that dude. lol. Hey look at me, woo hoo, I am the man.... Zip.... frump.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:30 PM   #6
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The focal point of the controversy is whether the taser should have been used. I'm OK with it being used and I think that "douchebag" is the perfect word for this little punk.
I don't see why people would be against it. I mean, doesn't anyone care about the fucking rules?
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This isn't 'Nam. This is baseball. There are rules.
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The focal point of the controversy is whether the taser should have been used. I'm OK with it being used and I think that "douchebag" is the perfect word for this little punk.
MY post was a very confusing Yes
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Taser's are designed for this purpose. It did its job exactly as it should, and he deserved it. I also think the taser should have been used, and am glad that it was.
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Tasers are meant to be a nonlethal alternative to the use of firearms. (The lethality of these weapons, however, is well-known; just ask the families of its many victims.) The weapon is dangerous. I don't think it should be used to stop pranksters, no matter how much testosterone-fueled men love to see it.
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But uBer, how else with the state continue to monopolize violence without tasers? You mean cops will actually have to TOUCH criminals? Sounds barbaric.
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Tasers are meant to be a nonlethal alternative to the use of firearms. (The lethality of these weapons, however, is well-known; just ask the families of its many victims.) The weapon is dangerous. I don't think it should be used to stop pranksters, no matter how much testosterone-fueled men love to see it.

Would you rather be shot by a beanbag?
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Dumb ass got what he deserved.
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Would you rather be shot by a beanbag?
Why is violence the only option?
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Why is violence the only option?

Wait, so.. waste 30 minutes chasing a guy around trying to talk to him or shoot his ass with a taser, which only takes 5 minutes. Hmmm.
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Wait, so.. waste 30 minutes chasing a guy around trying to talk to him or shoot his ass with a taser, which only takes 5 minutes. Hmmm.
No kidding. Every person I've talked to who objected I asked them how many minutes of interruption of the game by this little prick would be acceptable. Interesting that none of them had an answer.
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No kidding. Every person I've talked to who objected I asked them how many minutes of interruption of the game by this little prick would be acceptable. Interesting that none of them had an answer.
Zero Seconds, fuckers should not be on the field period.

Hamels said it didnt mess with his mojo, but it could of.


OH, I swear to GOD if someone jumps on the field tonight and messes up Moyer, I will go back to Philly and kill the fucker.
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You guys don't think it was overkill? He was not posing any bodily harm to anyone, and there's no way he could have escaped. There's better ways of punishing people, like, you know, the justice system? Give him a big fine, or force him to do some community service, I'm sure he won't do what he did again. That's more effective than pumping him full of (potentially fatal) 50,000 volts of electricity

However, the taser approach was idiotic. Not only because he was a harmless 'criminal', but because it's illegal. A federal appeals court ruled recently that a taser should only be used when "the suspect poses an immediate threat to the officer or a member of the public". Neither of those conditions were met.

Being desensitized to violence (especially from the state) is cool. I'm guessing you guys liked that joke Obama told the other day about killing the Jonas Brothers with predator drones. That was an awesome joke, I mean, violence is such a funny topic sometimes.

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No kidding. Every person I've talked to who objected I asked them how many minutes of interruption of the game by this little prick would be acceptable. Interesting that none of them had an answer.
Oh no, delaying a spectator event! Unthinkable!
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If they're allowed to taser some guy for streaking through a professional baseball game, then a referee who refs any sport ages 5 to 18 should get one for the parents who just won't STFU and get in your face for the calls you make. Those parents imo are far more dangerous, since from personal experience, they actually get violent.

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