2Fort

10-02-2007, 04:11 PM

Let me first say that I love FF, I think it's a fantastic mod and definitely captures the spirit of TFC, only better in most ways. I played it for 3 or 4 hours Sunday night with a friend.

However, I think one thing that will continue to hold back FF is the lack of a good 2Fort map. Face it, TF2 has 2Fort, 2Fort was the most popular map on TFC, it needs to be there. I know it's like de_dust on CS and the "elite" look down on it because it's popular, but if you want the mod to be popular, give the people what they want!

IMO.

JactusCack · 10-02-2007, 04:45 PM

Yeah I need a new 2fort ffs. And not one thats been annhiliated by 'noisy' textures like ff_dustbowl.

Foxtrick · 10-02-2007, 04:51 PM

I loved map well because it was big and there was so many things you could try to do. double conc's, water concing and comm usage.

I loved map 2fort because it was the main form of general practice used by people, small map meant easy returns into battle and fantastic learning curve for reaction play.

Both I feel are a nessacity

BlisTer · 10-02-2007, 04:51 PM

While you're waiting for the official 2fort...

Try out the community-made 2fort here

yes its' style is different, but reactions have been overly positive.

tu! · 10-02-2007, 04:54 PM

yeah i never did understand why they neglect 2fort. easily the most popular map in tfc history. my fav. map too!

Christian · 10-02-2007, 05:03 PM

I look forward to how they'll go about with layouts of the map, if it'll be a somewhat generic copy of the TFC 2fort, or an updated and visually pleasing map ala dustbowl!

10-02-2007, 05:53 PM

Yeah Dustbowl is a really nice map, visually upgraded but still basically plays the same.

barronofhellion · 10-02-2007, 06:05 PM

the dev 2 fort thats on a few servers is pritty much the same as the 2fort in tfc

lollerskates · 10-02-2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho 78

Face it, TF2 has 2Fort, 2Fort was the most popular map on TFC, it needs to be there. I know it's like de_dust on CS and the "elite" look down on it because it's popular, but if you want the mod to be popular, give the people what they want!

On the contrary, it's precisely the elite who want to play 2fort and de_dust2 (which has completely eclipsed de_dust in popularity). As soon as FF was released, people immediately set up well 24/7 servers without even looking at the other maps. When TFC started dying, the only remaining active servers were 24/7 2fort and well.

be_ · 10-02-2007, 07:16 PM

I agree. Would very much like to see 2fort in FF! It is small, simple, and might have been the easiest map for new players to get into the game. blis_2fort is cool, but it seems bigger than the original, which might not make it as simple. I like the look of it though and would like to see an other map with that type of atmosphere. It seems kind of futuristic, which is neat.

I like dev_2fort as well. As the demon from Doom said, pretty much just like 2fort (nice avatar barronofhellion, by the way)

barronofhellion · 10-02-2007, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by be_

(nice avatar barronofhellion, by the way)

thx , i like blisters 2fort too for the most part. i do not like the underwater passage however. the curved ramps to flagroom are cool looking

Thormier · 10-02-2007, 09:12 PM

When an official 2fart released i think well see a rise in numbers ( I think )

SmellyCat · 10-02-2007, 09:16 PM

and then fall as all servers simultaneously become 24/7 2fort (with the slight exception of the odd Dustbowl server).

SoBe Green · 10-02-2007, 09:27 PM

I hope its a little better than TF2's 2fort. The TF2 2fort is nice but plays almost too much like the original. Most of TF2 and FF's remakes all have one thing in common: More space. The exception is TF2's 2fort. It feels cramped, especially in the yard. I can see how hard it'll be to make a 2fort that everyone likes and not stray too much from the original. More than 2fort though I want casbah.

Desyphur · 10-02-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thormier

When an official 2fart released i think well see a rise in numbers ( I think )

I agree, though maybe 2fort will help too.

Also, the bridge on TF2's 2fort is absolutely horrible. Makes sniping hard.

Edit: Oh, and ff_dev_2fort is TF's 2fort ported over. (basically)

s0undch4s3r · 10-02-2007, 10:27 PM

I've been saying this all along before FF was released.

You don't release a TF mod without 2fort.

What were the Dev's thinking??

Lost · 10-02-2007, 10:32 PM

That they had a handful of developers and not enough time to make all the maps.

Iggy · 10-02-2007, 10:34 PM

You would have prefered to delay release a month or more over 2fort? Hey, I love 2fort too....and I wanted FF released ASAP, with or without it.

It's being worked on...although, with what happened with ff_dev_2fort, it's unlikely us Beta's will get a look at it before the public does.

tu! · 10-02-2007, 11:27 PM

actually i would have prefered they not work on other maps and get 2fort done...duh!!!

#1 noobies and super ninja pro clanners both love 2fort.

#2 super ninja pro clanners also love openfire_lowgrens.

-=bingo-bango=- · 10-02-2007, 11:27 PM

idc really, i dont play on 2fort

10-02-2007, 04:51 PM	#4
BlisTer Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	While you're waiting for the official 2fort... Try out the community-made 2fort here yes its' style is different, but reactions have been overly positive. __________________ Support FF: untils you cry for the mercy like little shaven squirrel in my eating pot. - deathstriker666 Last edited by BlisTer; 10-02-2007 at 04:57 PM.

10-02-2007, 10:32 PM	#17
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	That they had a handful of developers and not enough time to make all the maps. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

10-02-2007, 11:27 PM	#20
-=bingo-bango=- Spirit Studios Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: CTF Affiliations: Blue Team Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	idc really, i dont play on 2fort __________________ Quote: Originally posted by Bridget [>] Who gives a shit? Tired of hearing about this...

10-02-2007, 04:11 PM	#1
Psycho 78 Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	2Fort Let me first say that I love FF, I think it's a fantastic mod and definitely captures the spirit of TFC, only better in most ways. I played it for 3 or 4 hours Sunday night with a friend. However, I think one thing that will continue to hold back FF is the lack of a good 2Fort map. Face it, TF2 has 2Fort, 2Fort was the most popular map on TFC, it needs to be there. I know it's like de_dust on CS and the "elite" look down on it because it's popular, but if you want the mod to be popular, give the people what they want! IMO.

10-02-2007, 04:45 PM	#2
JactusCack Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah I need a new 2fort ffs. And not one thats been annhiliated by 'noisy' textures like ff_dustbowl.

10-02-2007, 04:51 PM	#3
Foxtrick Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I loved map well because it was big and there was so many things you could try to do. double conc's, water concing and comm usage. I loved map 2fort because it was the main form of general practice used by people, small map meant easy returns into battle and fantastic learning curve for reaction play. Both I feel are a nessacity

10-02-2007, 04:54 PM	#5
tu! Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah i never did understand why they neglect 2fort. easily the most popular map in tfc history. my fav. map too!

10-02-2007, 05:03 PM	#6
Christian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Denmark Class/Position: O Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I look forward to how they'll go about with layouts of the map, if it'll be a somewhat generic copy of the TFC 2fort, or an updated and visually pleasing map ala dustbowl!

10-02-2007, 05:53 PM	#7
Psycho 78 Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Yeah Dustbowl is a really nice map, visually upgraded but still basically plays the same.

10-02-2007, 06:05 PM	#8
barronofhellion Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the dev 2 fort thats on a few servers is pritty much the same as the 2fort in tfc

10-02-2007, 07:16 PM	#10
be_ Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	I agree. Would very much like to see 2fort in FF! It is small, simple, and might have been the easiest map for new players to get into the game. blis_2fort is cool, but it seems bigger than the original, which might not make it as simple. I like the look of it though and would like to see an other map with that type of atmosphere. It seems kind of futuristic, which is neat. I like dev_2fort as well. As the demon from Doom said, pretty much just like 2fort (nice avatar barronofhellion, by the way)

10-02-2007, 09:12 PM	#12
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	When an official 2fart released i think well see a rise in numbers ( I think )

10-02-2007, 09:16 PM	#13
SmellyCat Darknight Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	and then fall as all servers simultaneously become 24/7 2fort (with the slight exception of the odd Dustbowl server).

10-02-2007, 09:27 PM	#14
SoBe Green SoBe Yourself Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Russellville, AR Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I hope its a little better than TF2's 2fort. The TF2 2fort is nice but plays almost too much like the original. Most of TF2 and FF's remakes all have one thing in common: More space. The exception is TF2's 2fort. It feels cramped, especially in the yard. I can see how hard it'll be to make a 2fort that everyone likes and not stray too much from the original. More than 2fort though I want casbah.

10-02-2007, 10:27 PM	#16
s0undch4s3r The guy you love to hate. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Under your bed Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I've been saying this all along before FF was released. You don't release a TF mod without 2fort. What were the Dev's thinking??

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