Community Map

o_own3r · 02-20-2007, 10:57 AM

Why don't we make a community map?
Anyone can take part and shape the direction the map goes.

We need:

FTP space with access available on request, or better still cvs or svn.
Thanks stino can check this off the list

We need you.

A Vision:

What things do we want to achieve with 2fort?

Do we want the exact same layout?
Same layout although the brushwork will be subject to change

What theme do we want?
Things like setting and style need to be discussed.

A Plan:

Some concept art (deviant art/google image as sources?)

Scale drawing so we have something good to work from

Making it:

Get a rough layout made

Optimise it

Let volunteers make the areas of the map they pick or pick names out of a hat?

o_stino · 02-20-2007, 11:22 AM

i can create an ftp account if, unlimited storage, and 1 account per user. every user can download every file, unless chmodded.

o_agret · 02-20-2007, 11:35 AM

Sounds good, are you able to host it when the map is completed?

I vote for exact same layout

o_nuk3m · 02-20-2007, 11:36 AM

i honestly would have hoped no one would try to create the maps the Dev team is making. honestly too many maps in a release normally never went well from what i have seen.

o_agret · 02-20-2007, 11:55 AM

Well people made unoffical releases of CS maps for CSS that Valve eventually released much later, this community 2fort will probably get finished before the FF one. Not sure what state the FF one is in though...

o_gambit · 02-20-2007, 11:55 AM

if we/y'all or going to do this i vote exact same layout...2fort is prob my favorite map...the ONLY thing i would change is the spiral going down to FR...maybe make it wider and possibly a lil taller...

i was going to see how well i liked the new 2fort and i was going to redo it exactly like TFC's if i didnt like it...

i'm more than willing to help with this...sounds good to me...

let me know what you need me to do....

o_led · 02-20-2007, 11:59 AM

We need you to make the map.

o_stino · 02-20-2007, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agret

are you able to host it when the map is completed?

i can host it to download, not to play, i don't have any gameservers of my own at the moment

o_gambit · 02-20-2007, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Led

We need you to make the map.

lol.....ok..

o_own3r · 02-20-2007, 12:54 PM

Ok so what about the theme?

A few come to mind:

World war two style bunkers, the setting would be a beach one side and the sea the other with each base set into the cliff

Wild west style have saloon like forts ala dustbowl with the base made up from different structures, possibly with a mine for the flag room complete with gold.

Desert setting with modern space age bases with clean lines, trim and special fx maybe even some combine tech.

What are your ideas?

Random:
I think if we remake this higher ceilings throughout would be a great addition atm feels claustrophobic especially in the spiral as was previously said.

o_nodnarb · 02-20-2007, 12:58 PM

first one you can have a river, second one have a creek that goes through, and the third one an oasis?

o_own3r · 02-20-2007, 01:00 PM

Yeah theres alot we can do, we need to collect some concept art from google/deviant art to see if we can get some more ideas of what we want it to look like.

Some desert ideas:
http://www.neiu.edu/~ncaftori/bh/David-River.jpg
http://www.pictureninja.com/pages/un...and-spires.htm
http://www.guyshachar.com/eastories/river.jpg

Sea + cliffs ideas:
http://webpages.charter.net/mstout/wa/cove.jpg
http://www.visitusa.com/california/i...ngton-cove.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/13...aa2fa80f_o.jpg
http://mirror-us-ga1.gallery.hd.org/...eaked-1-JR.jpg

river/lake ideas:
http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/growing...0district.jpeg
http://www.pacificenvironment.org/im...Pic%20copy.jpg

Well it is a fort, so it crossed my mind it could be a castle
http://www.tashian.com/carl/photos/n...n-castle.3.jpg
http://www.celticcastles.com/castles...stle_hotel.jpg

A creek:
http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mihal/...cade_creek.htm
http://www.scsc.k12.ar.us/2004Natche...Creek%2001.jpg
http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/cp_mega...eek_canyon.jpg
http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/cp_mega...deer_creek.htm

trepid_jesse · 02-20-2007, 01:09 PM

I'm not saying you can't do this shit, but there's an official 2fort shit that was started several months ago.

Soooooo, balls?

Lost · 02-20-2007, 01:09 PM

Two bases built into opposing walls over a river that winds past. Grates could block the rest of the river off. Could adapt the WW2 bunker idea easily, make it a multi-fronted base instead of a single face.

**mervaka** · 02-20-2007, 01:10 PM

lol

o_own3r · 02-20-2007, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost

Two bases built into opposing walls over a river that winds past. Grates could block the rest of the river off. Could adapt the WW2 bunker idea easily, make it a multi-fronted base instead of a single face.

This sounds good what do you mean when you say multifronted then in terms of shapes?

Also can we adapt the water enterance to be say on a river bank going into the base for example probably make it a bit shorter too.
Will we allow the players to get out via a river bank or will they be too steap?

o_own3r · 02-20-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trepid_jesse

I'm not saying you can't do this shit, but there's an official 2fort shit that was started several months ago.

Since when did that ever stop anyone... defrag

o_nodnarb · 02-20-2007, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Own3r

Since when did that ever stop anyone... defrag

haha

I like the idea of letting you get out of the water. Lets change it up some. Don't keep it exactly the same.

o_sh4x · 02-20-2007, 08:23 PM

I'm all for a community map project (hell, I'm one of the 3 ppl (yes, only 3) who actually pushed and worked on the idea the first time. For those who don't know, my ff_dropdown map is the continuation of my work on that first community map project.

But anyways, why not make a map that the FF isnt already doing?

I like the Bases style, the concrete that is. But I think it's a FF texture so the community doesn't have access to that, (sad).

o_own3r · 02-20-2007, 09:39 PM

I guess its because the FF team are under pressure to keep it exactly the same, we however can do whatever we like change things and make it how we want it to be. I did contemplate doing this for 2mach should I change it to that instead?

02-20-2007, 10:57 AM	#1
o_own3r Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Community Map Why don't we make a community map? Anyone can take part and shape the direction the map goes. We need: FTP space with access available on request, or better still cvs or svn. Thanks stino can check this off the list We need you. A Vision: What things do we want to achieve with 2fort? Do we want the exact same layout? Same layout although the brushwork will be subject to change What theme do we want? Things like setting and style need to be discussed. A Plan: Some concept art (deviant art/google image as sources?) Scale drawing so we have something good to work from Making it: Get a rough layout made Optimise it Let volunteers make the areas of the map they pick or pick names out of a hat? Last edited by o_own3r; 02-21-2007 at 11:56 AM. Reason: (Changing direction)

02-20-2007, 11:35 AM	#3
o_agret Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sounds good, are you able to host it when the map is completed? I vote for exact same layout Last edited by o_agret; 02-20-2007 at 11:41 AM.

02-20-2007, 01:00 PM	#12
o_own3r Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah theres alot we can do, we need to collect some concept art from google/deviant art to see if we can get some more ideas of what we want it to look like. Some desert ideas: http://www.neiu.edu/~ncaftori/bh/David-River.jpg http://www.pictureninja.com/pages/un...and-spires.htm http://www.guyshachar.com/eastories/river.jpg Sea + cliffs ideas: http://webpages.charter.net/mstout/wa/cove.jpg http://www.visitusa.com/california/i...ngton-cove.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/13...aa2fa80f_o.jpg http://mirror-us-ga1.gallery.hd.org/...eaked-1-JR.jpg river/lake ideas: http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/growing...0district.jpeg http://www.pacificenvironment.org/im...Pic%20copy.jpg Well it is a fort, so it crossed my mind it could be a castle http://www.tashian.com/carl/photos/n...n-castle.3.jpg http://www.celticcastles.com/castles...stle_hotel.jpg A creek: http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mihal/...cade_creek.htm http://www.scsc.k12.ar.us/2004Natche...Creek%2001.jpg http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/cp_mega...eek_canyon.jpg http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/cp_mega...deer_creek.htm Last edited by o_own3r; 02-20-2007 at 01:22 PM.

02-20-2007, 01:09 PM	#13
trepid_jesse Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm not saying you can't do this shit, but there's an official 2fort shit that was started several months ago. Soooooo, balls? __________________ Support FF: Trepid, what?

02-20-2007, 01:09 PM	#14
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Two bases built into opposing walls over a river that winds past. Grates could block the rest of the river off. Could adapt the WW2 bunker idea easily, make it a multi-fronted base instead of a single face. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

02-20-2007, 11:22 AM	#2
o_stino Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i can create an ftp account if, unlimited storage, and 1 account per user. every user can download every file, unless chmodded.

02-20-2007, 11:36 AM	#4
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i honestly would have hoped no one would try to create the maps the Dev team is making. honestly too many maps in a release normally never went well from what i have seen.

02-20-2007, 11:55 AM	#5
o_agret Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well people made unoffical releases of CS maps for CSS that Valve eventually released much later, this community 2fort will probably get finished before the FF one. Not sure what state the FF one is in though...

02-20-2007, 11:55 AM	#6
o_gambit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	if we/y'all or going to do this i vote exact same layout...2fort is prob my favorite map...the ONLY thing i would change is the spiral going down to FR...maybe make it wider and possibly a lil taller... i was going to see how well i liked the new 2fort and i was going to redo it exactly like TFC's if i didnt like it... i'm more than willing to help with this...sounds good to me... let me know what you need me to do....

02-20-2007, 11:59 AM	#7
o_led Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Misfit, Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	We need you to make the map.

02-20-2007, 12:54 PM	#10
o_own3r Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ok so what about the theme? A few come to mind: World war two style bunkers, the setting would be a beach one side and the sea the other with each base set into the cliff Wild west style have saloon like forts ala dustbowl with the base made up from different structures, possibly with a mine for the flag room complete with gold. Desert setting with modern space age bases with clean lines, trim and special fx maybe even some combine tech. What are your ideas? Random: I think if we remake this higher ceilings throughout would be a great addition atm feels claustrophobic especially in the spiral as was previously said.

02-20-2007, 12:58 PM	#11
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	first one you can have a river, second one have a creek that goes through, and the third one an oasis?

02-20-2007, 01:10 PM	#15
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	lol __________________ Support FF:

02-20-2007, 08:23 PM	#19
o_sh4x Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm all for a community map project (hell, I'm one of the 3 ppl (yes, only 3) who actually pushed and worked on the idea the first time. For those who don't know, my ff_dropdown map is the continuation of my work on that first community map project. But anyways, why not make a map that the FF isnt already doing? I like the Bases style, the concrete that is. But I think it's a FF texture so the community doesn't have access to that, (sad). Last edited by o_sh4x; 02-20-2007 at 08:35 PM.

02-20-2007, 09:39 PM	#20
o_own3r Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I guess its because the FF team are under pressure to keep it exactly the same, we however can do whatever we like change things and make it how we want it to be. I did contemplate doing this for 2mach should I change it to that instead?

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