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Old 05-25-2011, 11:31 AM   #281
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pick one of the existing ones...
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Old 05-28-2011, 05:59 PM   #282
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Scouts are 25% faster.

Medics are 20% slower. (math!)
A scout is 25% faster than a medic, but a medic is 20% slower than a scout?


Let me break this ridiculous sniper argument down in simple terms for people who love sniper. Soldiers, Demos, HWs and engies are more effective at defending the flag than a sniper. If you argue this, you are a close minded sniper fan boy, and don't completely understand this game.
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:57 PM   #283
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scout - 400 compared to 320 - 5/4 - 125%, 25% faster

medic - 320 compared to 400 - 4/5 - 80%, 20% slower

Like I said, math.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:27 AM   #285
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Everyone knows discounts are always better at the other store. Also, brand A contains 20% more than brand B's 20% more, creating an infinite paradox where you receive either an infinite or infinitessimal amount of product for your purchase.
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You're equation is flawed, man. If a scout is 25% faster than a medic, a medic is 25% slower than a scout.
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You're equation is flawed, man. If a scout is 25% faster than a medic, a medic is 25% slower than a scout.
False.

100 * 1.25 (25% more) = 125
125 * .75 (25% less) = 93.75
125 * .80 (20% less) = 100
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:10 AM   #288
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Old 05-30-2011, 02:46 AM   #289
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False.

100 * 1.25 (25% more) = 125
125 * .75 (25% less) = 93.75
125 * .80 (20% less) = 100
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False.

100 * 1.25 (25% more) = 125
125 * .75 (25% less) = 93.75
125 * .80 (20% less) = 100
I believe sir you would need to use 125 in all three equations. you have to have a common number other wise you're comparing apples to oranges.

The common denominator here should be the "Max speed of the game in the server.cfg. 400 . Then do the math for both with the common D.
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Stfu Zip you're too old to know how to do math
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:45 AM   #292
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Separates the educated, in basic mathematics anyway!

Zip I think ur missing the point. One compared to another is not the same as comparing them to something different
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Guys it's so simple stop making it hard you retards

400 speed compared to 320 speed

400/320 reduces to 5/4

When comparing the scout's 5 to the medic's 4, you get 5/4 - 1.25, 125%.

When comparing the medic's 4 to the scout's 5, you get 4/5 - 0.8. 80%.

fucking math how does it work
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UGHHH! This is boggling my mind!!! How can a scout be 25% faster than a medic, but the medic be 20% slower than the scout!!! This makes no sense! AHHHHHHH!
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I believe sir you would need to use 125 in all three equations. you have to have a common number other wise you're comparing apples to oranges.

The common denominator here should be the "Max speed of the game in the server.cfg. 400 . Then do the math for both with the common D.
When comparing fractions or percentages, (which must be turned into fractions in order to compare) both numbers require the same common denominator....
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If you have four quarters, each coin represents 1/4 of your money (25%).

If I give you one more quarter, you now have five quarters. each coin now represents 1/5 of your money (20%).
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Common denominator doesn't really come into it. All integers have the common denominator of 1. Unless I'm missing the point.

400 / 320 = 1.25
1.25 - 1 = 0.25
0.25 = 25%

320 / 400 = 0.8
0.8 - 1 = -0.2
-0.2 = -20%

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If you stop assuming that 20% and 25% are percentages of the same number, then it stops being so mind-boggling. The Scout has to subtract 20% of his 400 move speed (which is 80 points) to equal the Medic. The Medic has to add 25% of his 320 move speed (which is also 80 points) to equal the Scout.

The only way to get "symmetry" between the two percentages is to make it relative. Relative to the Scout's 400 move speed, the Scout is 20% (20% of 400 is 80) faster and the Medic is 20% (20% of 400 is 80) slower. Relative to the Medic's 320 move speed, the Scout is 25% (25% of 320 is 80) faster and the Medic is 25% (25% of 320 is 80) slower.

But, wording it as "The Scout is 25% faster than the Medic, but the Medic is 20% slower than the Scout" confuses people because they assume that those percentages are of a common number. That statement literally says "400 is 80 points faster than 320. 320 is 80 points less than 400."

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