The Music Thread! - Page 29

**squeek.** · 01-12-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Credge

Maybe the next page won't be so bad.

Incorrect. I'm digging this page into a hole that can't be gotten out of.

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**Elmo** · 01-12-2010, 11:18 AM

that's some "HOLY WHAT THE FUCK" right there.

**Elmo** · 01-12-2010, 11:20 AM

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Not sure if this has been up but its cool n gets in my head quite a bit. Dude's got some cool stuff

Suite307 · 01-12-2010, 03:28 PM

A good ol' flashbulb song!

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Credge · 01-12-2010, 05:04 PM

What is with all the electronic drums in the stuff you guys like?

Real drummers can do that and have it sound better but nobody likes that anymore it seems.

For example:

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ETA: I like real musicians more than robot ones.

ETAA: For serious.

ETAAA: But see, shit like this is terrible.

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That's because talent matters.

GenghisTron · 01-12-2010, 05:11 PM

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Post Music Videos / Bands.
No Argueing.
Everyone has tastes. It doesn't matter if it's death metal or pop, this thread will exist so people can share their findings and such.

Are we really going to start this debate again? You like what you like and I like what I like.

FrenchToast · 01-12-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Credge

What is with all the electronic drums in the stuff you guys like?

Real drummers can do that and have it sound better but nobody likes that anymore it seems.

ETA: I like real musicians more than robot ones.

ETAA: For serious.

ETAAA: But see, shit like this is terrible.

That's because talent matters.

...that's the most retarded post evar.

A lot of new music is all synthed, but that's because a lot of new music is shit, as has always been the case. Not to mention if I'm to take it from your posts that you're a bit of a metalhead, and yet as far as I can tell all they do is play their scales very quickly, with little to no musicality actually shown.

GenghisTron · 01-12-2010, 05:21 PM

Also that Dillinger Escape Plan video is hilarious... the sound quality is terrible, of course it's going to sound like shit. Dillinger Escape Plan is usually pretty good (Their earlier stuff is the best imo) and they usually don't sound as bad as what's in that video. It's kind of hard to judge music based on live performances, cell phone video recorders don't filter out the cacophony you get at live music events.

I'd post some stuff from their S/T but I'm afraid there's none on YouTube :<

GenghisTron · 01-12-2010, 05:23 PM

I'd also like to see a drummer keep up with this

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Credge · 01-12-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

...that's the most retarded post evar.

A lot of new music is all synthed, but that's because a lot of new music is shit, as has always been the case. Not to mention if I'm to take it from your posts that you're a bit of a metalhead, and yet as far as I can tell all they do is play their scales very quickly, with little to no musicality actually shown.

I'm a blues guy thank you very much. And no, it's not. It's one thing to compose music (electronic drums aren't exactly the hardest thing to do

) and it's another to actually play that piece of music. You can get any machine to do anything. What you lose is feel, and that is why most modern music sucks. We're back in the 80's again. Shit has lost its soul.

But no, I don't like scale playing metal. Pantera, BLS, Tool... that's the kind of metal I like. After that it's Southern Rock, which is just a rockier version of the blues.

However, I'd rather listen to Yngwie rip up some scales than a robot doing the same thing. At least Yngwie can do things that the robot isn't programmed to do.

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Originally Posted by GenghisTron

I'd also like to see a drummer keep up with this

You mean like this?

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That's a single kick there broseephus. He's playing heel down too.

FrenchToast · 01-12-2010, 05:27 PM

a) I just assumed you were a metalhead because for some reason the internet is plagued with them

b) My point was that you rip on any kind of music, so you might as well suck it up and live with it.

GenghisTron · 01-12-2010, 05:27 PM

Yngwie Malsteem can't keep up with a lot of modern music because some of it's just so fast. Also, producing music on a 'robot' isn't easy, as you try and make it out. Get back to me when you can use FL studio, and even DrumSynth is fairly complex. Don't kid yourself, just because computers are making the music doesn't mean it's easy by any stretch of the imagination.

Credge · 01-12-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

a) I just assumed you were a metalhead because for some reason the internet is plagued with them

b) My point was that you rip on any kind of music, so you might as well suck it up and live with it.

Nah, I like a lot of music. I prefer music that is being played by people. The less studio that is involved (less touching up of the sound, but still making it sound good), the more I like it. All in one take is the best it can get. This is the reason I listen to Kings of Leon. They all record at the same time. Allman Brothers are another band that I dig. Both bands have a live sound without it being live while having studio quality sound.

If I had the luxury of living with my buds I'd totally be finishing my recording rig for it, but I don't

.

I mean, like this:

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Or

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GenghisTron

Yngwie Malsteem can't keep up with a lot of modern music because some of it's just so fast. Also, producing music on a 'robot' isn't easy, as you try and make it out. Get back to me when you can use FL studio, and even DrumSynth is fairly complex. Don't kid yourself, just because computers are making the music doesn't mean it's easy by any stretch of the imagination.

So... do you want me to get back to you today or...? Because, you know, before I got my electronic drum kit I was using FL Studio for the drums on my backing tracks.

The idea that music creation programs are difficult to use is kind of weird. They're meant for your average dude to use. They're typically easier to use than programs like Photoshop, and almost everyone knows how to use that.

GenghisTron · 01-12-2010, 05:48 PM

lol, to master a program like FL Studio takes years, whereas you can read a few tutorials about PS and learn it pretty easily. You're insane if you think FL Studio is easier than Photoshop.

Credge · 01-12-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GenghisTron

lol, to master a program like FL Studio takes years, whereas you can read a few tutorials about PS and learn it pretty easily. You're insane if you think FL Studio is easier than Photoshop.

O_o

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...+drum+tutorial

I don't want to get in semantics, because then we will be arguing, however, there's a reason why I worded what I said carefully. Your idea that music production software is difficult is bizarre. I imagine it's because you're comparing goofing off with Photoshop with making a living using a studio designed software.

FrenchToast · 01-12-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GenghisTron

lol, to master a program like FL Studio takes years, whereas you can read a few tutorials about PS and learn it pretty easily. You're insane if you think FL Studio is easier than Photoshop.

It would take me 5 minutes to make a beat in FL studio, as well as 5 minutes for me to draw a moustache on Keira Knightley. Neither is mastery. Choose your words better.

Etzell · 01-12-2010, 09:37 PM

I'm amused that certain people completely rip on some people for not playing their own instruments and stand up for others.

GenghisTron · 01-12-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Credge

O_o

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...+drum+tutorial

I don't want to get in semantics, because then we will be arguing, however, there's a reason why I worded what I said carefully. Your idea that music production software is difficult is bizarre. I imagine it's because you're comparing goofing off with Photoshop with making a living using a studio designed software.

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

It would take me 5 minutes to make a beat in FL studio, as well as 5 minutes for me to draw a moustache on Keira Knightley. Neither is mastery. Choose your words better.

Yes, you both are exactly correct. A toddler could make a beat with FL studio, however, using the software to the capacity at where you're making production-level music is NOT easy.

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Originally Posted by Etzell

I'm amused that certain people completely rip on some people for not playing their own instruments and stand up for others.

Wow sir, you are kind of missing the point, and completely misrepresenting what I said. Good job. Also, pro-tip, you still use an 'instrument' to make certain music in FL studio.

**Elmo** · 01-12-2010, 11:22 PM

get to the debate forum...

music thread...

**squeek.** · 01-12-2010, 11:43 PM

To complete the page:

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See you next page!

01-12-2010, 11:18 AM	#562
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GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	Also that Dillinger Escape Plan video is hilarious... the sound quality is terrible, of course it's going to sound like shit. Dillinger Escape Plan is usually pretty good (Their earlier stuff is the best imo) and they usually don't sound as bad as what's in that video. It's kind of hard to judge music based on live performances, cell phone video recorders don't filter out the cacophony you get at live music events. I'd post some stuff from their S/T but I'm afraid there's none on YouTube :< __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

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FrenchToast The 1337est D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Omagosh Canada. Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	a) I just assumed you were a metalhead because for some reason the internet is plagued with them b) My point was that you rip on any kind of music, so you might as well suck it up and live with it. __________________ James, while John had had 'had', had had 'had had' ; 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher.

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GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	Yngwie Malsteem can't keep up with a lot of modern music because some of it's just so fast. Also, producing music on a 'robot' isn't easy, as you try and make it out. Get back to me when you can use FL studio, and even DrumSynth is fairly complex. Don't kid yourself, just because computers are making the music doesn't mean it's easy by any stretch of the imagination. __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

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GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	lol, to master a program like FL Studio takes years, whereas you can read a few tutorials about PS and learn it pretty easily. You're insane if you think FL Studio is easier than Photoshop. __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

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Etzell D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm amused that certain people completely rip on some people for not playing their own instruments and stand up for others.

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