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Old 12-12-2008, 08:10 PM   #1
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Trouble Maker: fx. milkman (STEAM_0:1:265691)

When we got on the map FF_Well on the FYC server, a player by the name of fx. milkman (STEAM_0:1:265691) was causing trouble with teammates. He was switching teams going as pyro and soldier, shooting the snipers and disrupting their gameplay. He's been doing it for quite awhile, and everyone pretty much wants to get him banned.

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Old 12-12-2008, 08:19 PM   #2
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Should of recorded a demo or do you have someone to back you up?
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:22 PM   #3
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When we got on the map FF_Well on the FYC server, a player by the name of fx. milkman (STEAM_0:1:265691) was causing trouble with teammates. He was switching teams going as pyro and soldier, shooting the snipers and disrupting their gameplay. He's been doing it for quite awhile, and everyone pretty much wants to get him banned.
I think a warning from an admin would be the first step not banned right off the bat
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:37 PM   #4
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Should of recorded a demo or do you have someone to back you up?
I was there. I didn't actually see him do anything. But a couple people were complaining and askin why he was an asshole. Guess he really didn't wanna play ff_well.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:39 PM   #5
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I fail to see the problem.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:40 PM   #6
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My good friend, you are utterly mistaken as to the quarrel that took place in that server. This was a personal matter between myself and one other player in the server.

As I recall you joined the server mid map and saw me shooting a teammate (aforementioned player) to which he replied "BAN MILKMAN". You then stated (completely unaware as to what was taking place) "I'll spec him!", where you did witness me shoot him again with a rocket and then said "I'm a long time respected member of the ff forums, and I'm going to go report you!" followed by you leaving the server.

When you returned to the server after starting this thread, you then said to me "Don't expect to be playing much longer". Immediately after, you decided to join my team. Then you started shooting rockets at me, therefore doing the same thing I was doing to the player I had a specific problem with.

I'm not sure where you got the idea I was upsetting multiple players, or why you thought "everyone pretty much wants to get him banned", maybe I was holding defense too well in this pub. I would hope this is not how you respond to every issue you come across while pubbing, especially ones where you have no idea what is going on.

I find myself enjoying public servers when I have time, I'm sure many other members have played with me and can vouch for my public server sportsmanship. I think this thread might need to be re-titled "Troublemaker: CaLeB-"
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:00 PM   #7
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My good friend, you are utterly mistaken as to the quarrel that took place in that server. This was a personal matter between myself and one other player in the server.

As I recall you joined the server mid map and saw me shooting a teammate (aforementioned player) to which he replied "BAN MILKMAN". You then stated (completely unaware as to what was taking place) "I'll spec him!", where you did witness me shoot him again with a rocket and then said "I'm a long time respected member of the ff forums, and I'm going to go report you!" followed by you leaving the server.

When you returned to the server after starting this thread, you then said to me "Don't expect to be playing much longer". Immediately after, you decided to join my team. Then you started shooting rockets at me, therefore doing the same thing I was doing to the player I had a specific problem with.

I'm not sure where you got the idea I was upsetting multiple players, or why you thought "everyone pretty much wants to get him banned", maybe I was holding defense too well in this pub. I would hope this is not how you respond to every issue you come across while pubbing, especially ones where you have no idea what is going on.

I find myself enjoying public servers when I have time, I'm sure many other members have played with me and can vouch for my public server sportsmanship. I think this thread might need to be re-titled "Troublemaker: CaLeB-"
BAN HIM! OMGz HE TALKS OF LIES AND FALSE TRUTHS!1
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:36 AM   #8
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My good friend, you are utterly mistaken as to the quarrel that took place in that server. This was a personal matter between myself and one other player in the server.
Yeah, I can see it was magically bothering the others, too.

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As I recall you joined the server mid map and saw me shooting a teammate (aforementioned player) to which he replied "BAN MILKMAN". You then stated (completely unaware as to what was taking place) "I'll spec him!", where you did witness me shoot him again with a rocket and then said "I'm a long time respected member of the ff forums, and I'm going to go report you!" followed by you leaving the server.
You must've meant that other guy who went spec'ing (Black Sun Empire), because it sure wasn't me. I was a blue soldier the whole time. I didn't say anything about the community respecting me. I've just heard enough of the bitching from MULTIPLE players and ONLY said something along the lines of "I'm gonna report him." Please quit lying.

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Immediately after, you decided to join my team. Then you started shooting rockets at me, therefore doing the same thing I was doing to the player I had a specific problem with.
You're either lying or framing the wrong guy. If anything, I was following you, getting more proof of what you were doing with a demo. (http://files.filefront.com/milkmande.../fileinfo.html)

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I'm not sure where you got the idea I was upsetting multiple players, or why you thought "everyone pretty much wants to get him banned", maybe I was holding defense too well in this pub.


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I think this thread might need to be re-titled "Troublemaker: CaLeB-"
My my, the funny thing about this quote is that half your story is made up.


Here's a demo:
http://files.filefront.com/milkmande.../fileinfo.html

Make your config read-only before you watch it.
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:27 AM   #9
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Make your config read-only before you watch it.
Thank you for reminding me to make more demos to rape peoples configs
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:28 AM   #10
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im automatically in agreement with milkz because SDFE aka blowtatoes was against him
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Old 12-13-2008, 04:01 AM   #11
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im automatically in agreement with milkz because SDFE aka blowtatoes was against him
Why does that name sound familiar? Blowtatoes. Why...
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:01 AM   #12
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mrblowtatoes. wasn't he forum banned for being a douche?
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Old 12-13-2008, 05:34 PM   #13
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i remember that guy too, yea he was a douche bag.
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Old 12-14-2008, 01:08 PM   #14
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If a player offends you via text ro speech, mute him.
If you are directly being griefed, switch teams.
If griefing continues, go to another server.
If that is not a viable option, record a demo and continue to play the rest of the map.
Email this to the administrator of the server along with a complaint.
Leave it up to the admin on what kind of action is taken, as it is not any of your business.

We have an active community, full of characters with rivalries, alliances and pesonalities. People clash, and this kind of he said she said bullshit TRASH should not even exist, let alone on the forums for said community.

Banning players from servers without hard evidence of serious infractions (Hacking, server crashing, phishing) cuts the community into server communities as opposed to game communities.
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Old 12-14-2008, 02:07 PM   #15
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Its the FYC server, so its up to EFEX pretty much
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blah blah blah
Basically you only report players here if:
  • The server has no associated forums/clan that you can contact directly,
  • you are a server owner wanting to share information with others.

Since FYC definitely has forums, a clan, and even an admin on the server this doesn't need to be here.

As Geo said, it's up to Efex now. I'll close this.

Meanwhile, in contrast to what Monoxide said: you don't have to just put up with people being assholes. Feel free to report bad sports to admins. Just don't air your dirty laundry here without good cause.
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