Latest SDK Update - Page 3

stino · 11-16-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

what is the -nop4? I didn't have that part...will try when I get home!

no pentium 4

Dr.Satan · 11-16-2007, 02:42 PM

ah cool...been so dam busy haven't even been ablet to test that yet. Really hope it works!

Dr.Satan · 11-17-2007, 08:37 PM

well that didn't work either...any idea what I might be missing?

Steven_m64 · 11-18-2007, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stino

no pentium 4

lol no.

Valve uses a professional version control system called perforce its built into some of their tools to automatically keep content, code and tools updated.

its so a dev can save changes and its updated to every other system (when accessed) instantly.

Dr.Satan · 11-20-2007, 01:23 AM

Ok so still having the same problem but:

If I load up my sdk under the portal option...I can load up my map and see my textures, but obviously can't use any specific FF textures or anything b/c it's running for portal.

If I start up my FF dir. then I get the same wireframe crap from before!

I am running with -engine ep1 -nop4 in the launch options and still nothing...anyone have any ideas?

greenday5494 · 11-20-2007, 02:05 AM

its because retard valve fucked up Hammer for pre-EP2 engines. It shows up as wireframe in EP1 and back, i dunno bout HL1 engine, however. FF obviously runs on the EP1/HL2 engine, and thats why it doesnt work. Portal runs on the EP2 engine, thats why it shows up. Valve needs to fix their shit, they must htink everyone bought EP2.... what a dream they are living.

nodnarb · 11-20-2007, 02:19 AM

Load up hammer
Click "View" in the top menus then "3d Shaded Textured Polygons"

greenday5494 · 11-20-2007, 02:21 AM

like i said, it doesnt work, i tried that.

Dr.Satan · 11-20-2007, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nodnarb

Load up hammer
Click "View" in the top menus then "3d Shaded Textured Polygons"

Come on nod do you really think I was that stupid? I tried that a million times...that and every other option available under the camera view...nothing works everything ends up being wire frame!

@greenday...I agree that it's stupid, but if you read on the forums...he wasn't able to beta test it first so this is kinda expected...I'm sure they will fix soonish!

Nezumi · 11-20-2007, 08:47 AM

Valve totally fucks up hammer every time they try to update it. EVERY TIME. Is it really that hard to test a piece of software? It's maddening.

Steven_m64 · 11-21-2007, 05:52 AM

you can only test software for computers so well, there are many thousands of computers out there and many Hundreds of ways each pc can be set up with different hardware, software and operating systems.

add in a complex system such as steam everything gets even more complex for testing, also be aware that the SDK was never originally designed to operate with 2 separate versions of the source engine.

be happy valve even supports the older version of the engine most other company's just move on after something is released a lot of them never releasing developer tools in the first place.

the problems will be fixed with time, it may be a while though as as far as i know currently theres actually only one person working on the sdk: Mike Durand.

Dr.Satan · 11-21-2007, 03:05 PM

Yeah i emailed mike on Sunday and he asked me to send him the .vmf b/c he isn't able to duplicate the issue. He is actually working on it, but until he can duplicate it to see what it's doing we're all pretty much SOL on getting it fixed!

Nezumi · 11-24-2007, 12:48 AM

The games valve releases aren't this buggy and incompatable. I know they do a huge ammount of testing on those, and I wish they'd dedicate a fraction of that time to the SDK. The source engine is all about being modable so you'd think they'd be a little more professional about maintaining the SDK.

At the very least they should have an easier way for people to regress to earlier working versions.

whereismymind? · 11-25-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rkarnes

Has anyone given Quark a try with HL2 ( and up ) maps? I know it supposedly supports Source mapping but don't know anyone still using it. I played around with it a bit back in HL1/TFC and it seemed decent to use.

I made all my HL1 maps on quark (check them out here) but it became so bloated I stuck with Hammer for HL2 stuff

foamy · 11-27-2007, 11:33 PM

Fix this all ready u pieace a shit Stupid steam..

GambiT · 11-27-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by foamy

Fix this all ready u pieace a shit Stupid steam..

um..you mean valve?

and nobody who works for valve is on here(as far as we know)

greenday5494 · 11-27-2007, 11:50 PM

now, now, no need for harsh words. Besides you gotta say it like this:
Fix this crap already, you Steaming pile of shit

GambiT · 11-28-2007, 12:23 AM

why would i say that? everything works fine for me.

greenday5494 · 11-28-2007, 01:36 AM

wasnt talking to you :P

Mulchman MM · 11-28-2007, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by foamy

Fix this all ready u pieace a shit Stupid steam..

you should say something like "STEAMing pile of shit" cause then you can add PUN INTENDED HAR

11-16-2007, 02:42 PM	#42
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	ah cool...been so dam busy haven't even been ablet to test that yet. Really hope it works! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-17-2007, 08:37 PM	#43
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	well that didn't work either...any idea what I might be missing? __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-20-2007, 01:23 AM	#45
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Ok so still having the same problem but: If I load up my sdk under the portal option...I can load up my map and see my textures, but obviously can't use any specific FF textures or anything b/c it's running for portal. If I start up my FF dir. then I get the same wireframe crap from before! I am running with -engine ep1 -nop4 in the launch options and still nothing...anyone have any ideas? __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-20-2007, 08:47 AM	#50
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Valve totally fucks up hammer every time they try to update it. EVERY TIME. Is it really that hard to test a piece of software? It's maddening. __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

11-21-2007, 03:05 PM	#52
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Yeah i emailed mike on Sunday and he asked me to send him the .vmf b/c he isn't able to duplicate the issue. He is actually working on it, but until he can duplicate it to see what it's doing we're all pretty much SOL on getting it fixed! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-20-2007, 02:05 AM	#46
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	its because retard valve fucked up Hammer for pre-EP2 engines. It shows up as wireframe in EP1 and back, i dunno bout HL1 engine, however. FF obviously runs on the EP1/HL2 engine, and thats why it doesnt work. Portal runs on the EP2 engine, thats why it shows up. Valve needs to fix their shit, they must htink everyone bought EP2.... what a dream they are living.

11-20-2007, 02:19 AM	#47
nodnarb Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Load up hammer Click "View" in the top menus then "3d Shaded Textured Polygons"

11-20-2007, 02:21 AM	#48
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	like i said, it doesnt work, i tried that.

11-21-2007, 05:52 AM	#51
Steven_m64 Insane Coder Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	you can only test software for computers so well, there are many thousands of computers out there and many Hundreds of ways each pc can be set up with different hardware, software and operating systems. add in a complex system such as steam everything gets even more complex for testing, also be aware that the SDK was never originally designed to operate with 2 separate versions of the source engine. be happy valve even supports the older version of the engine most other company's just move on after something is released a lot of them never releasing developer tools in the first place. the problems will be fixed with time, it may be a while though as as far as i know currently theres actually only one person working on the sdk: Mike Durand.

11-24-2007, 12:48 AM	#53
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	The games valve releases aren't this buggy and incompatable. I know they do a huge ammount of testing on those, and I wish they'd dedicate a fraction of that time to the SDK. The source engine is all about being modable so you'd think they'd be a little more professional about maintaining the SDK. At the very least they should have an easier way for people to regress to earlier working versions. __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

11-27-2007, 11:33 PM	#55
foamy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Fix this all ready u pieace a shit Stupid steam..

11-27-2007, 11:50 PM	#57
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	now, now, no need for harsh words. Besides you gotta say it like this: Fix this crap already, you Steaming pile of shit

11-28-2007, 12:23 AM	#58
GambiT Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Baton Rouge Class/Position: Spy Affiliations: -=DoM=- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	why would i say that? everything works fine for me. __________________ -------------------------------FF_Rock2(WIP)------------------------------ ---------------------------FF_RedGiant(Released)------------------------- --------------------------FF_Fragzone_G(Released)------------------------ --------------------------FF_Civibash_G(Released)------------------------ -------------------FF_Conc_G1(WIP)-------------------- -------------------FF_Hollow_G(WIP)---------------------

11-28-2007, 01:36 AM	#59
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	wasnt talking to you :P

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