why not just make maps and release it? - Page 2

o_valk · 03-29-2005, 01:35 PM

well theres a 12 yr old in this forum and his name starts with a B...

o_monkeystevie · 03-29-2005, 02:46 PM

I was just thinking that myself valk

o_binarylife · 03-29-2005, 03:14 PM

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I played the original Team Fortress on the Quake engine in 1997, who are you caling n00b?

I'm not condoning his remark, as I do enjoy the lack of flames you'll find here...but you must understand that your original comment here seems to be without foresight, or previous knowledge.

If the Dev team just released the mod, without coding, without creating models it would truely be nothing more than HL2CTF, as I said earlier. It would not be fun, it would be glitchy, laggy, look stupid, and turn away thousands of players within it's first months. Players it will never get back. These facts make your a idea an unsuccessful one.

I do respect your right for an opinion, as we all do. We all also happen to disagree with that opinion and are telling you why.

o_rebo · 03-29-2005, 05:01 PM

May I remind everyone here this is a no flame forum (no matter how right you may be or how wrong the other person may be) please keep it friendly. Thanks!

o_storm · 03-29-2005, 05:08 PM

It probably takes as long if not more to code the game

Defrag · 03-29-2005, 06:45 PM

Nobody would download, let alone play a mod whose team had such a lackadaisical attitude towards creating their content..

The coding when creating mods is the general time constraint anyway, so it's a largely irrelevant point.

o_eviliguana966 · 03-30-2005, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mirvin_monkey

For the first version we could release fortress-forever.txt which is a bunch of guidelines of how to play hl2dm in the style of the mod!

I second this idea! It will be based on the honor system. Soldiers can't sprint, but can pick up the rocket launcher. Scouts can sprint but can only use the SMG. Medics can use healthpacks and if they use the code words "red cross" can escort a wounded teammate to the nearest spawned health pack and back.

We have to use our imaginations though. "Yay! Imagination Christmas!" - Rodd and Todd

o_barbarian · 03-30-2005, 04:13 AM

I never suggested releasing it without coding complete. What I'm saying is, if models end up holding up the game, don't sweat it on the models.

o_dirkpitt · 03-30-2005, 05:36 AM

Too impatient barbarian. I personally want this mod to be ready for the general public b4 the team thinks about releasing. If they release without everything done people will just think they rushed to release and it will lose popularity.

o_deadeh · 03-30-2005, 09:37 AM

Im happy waiting

think the team are doing a good job and progressing quite nicely by the looks of things, id be quite disapointed to see a combine model running about with my beloved spanner

(althought the engineer should be a vortigaunt

)

Anyways, im glad they kept HL2 in the workshop so long so it was as good as it was.... same for this.. keep it till its nice

then we can all have fun playing yay

o_barbarian · 03-31-2005, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by valk

well theres a 12 yr old in this forum and his name starts with a B...

[im12] was a well respected clan in TF.

o_dirkpitt · 03-31-2005, 04:36 AM

That's cool

o_travis dane · 03-31-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbarian

I never suggested releasing it without coding complete. What I'm saying is, if models end up holding up the game, don't sweat it on the models.

Coding and mapping are probably the most resource intensive aspects of mod development. Leaving out the models isn't going to shorten the development timespan at all.

o_barbarian · 04-14-2006, 06:32 PM

So?

o_afx · 04-14-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbarian

So?

It took you a year to come up with that reply...Impressive.

mirvin_monkey · 04-14-2006, 06:40 PM

Haha, no

o_ghost · 04-14-2006, 06:54 PM

Heh, I was reading through this and didn't remember seeing this back in March and then realized it was March of '05.

So what?

o_smax · 04-14-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBe Green

How long you play a game doesn't make you good at it. Somewhere out there I imagine there is a 12 year old kid who can school all of us. :P

Speak for yourself ;D

Id rather be slapped in the johnson than have a d-bag 12 year old school me...plus he would have to have played TFC religiously for the past 7 years! And I don't know any 5 year olds who are picking up on any PC FPS's yet

o_yoshura · 04-14-2006, 06:58 PM

i have to agree with everyone here, it wouldnt feel right having stock models in place....

Mulchman MM · 04-14-2006, 07:00 PM

Ha, smax, "d-bag". We don't censor the word "douche" 'round here but of course it might go into that flame zone which we do censor... SO.

03-29-2005, 06:45 PM	#26
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nobody would download, let alone play a mod whose team had such a lackadaisical attitude towards creating their content.. The coding when creating mods is the general time constraint anyway, so it's a largely irrelevant point. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

04-14-2006, 07:00 PM	#40
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ha, smax, "d-bag". We don't censor the word "douche" 'round here but of course it might go into that flame zone which we do censor... SO. __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

03-29-2005, 01:35 PM	#21
o_valk Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	well theres a 12 yr old in this forum and his name starts with a B...

03-29-2005, 02:46 PM	#22
o_monkeystevie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I was just thinking that myself valk

03-29-2005, 05:01 PM	#24
o_rebo Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	May I remind everyone here this is a no flame forum (no matter how right you may be or how wrong the other person may be) please keep it friendly. Thanks!

03-29-2005, 05:08 PM	#25
o_storm Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SCOTLAND (above England) Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It probably takes as long if not more to code the game

03-30-2005, 04:13 AM	#28
o_barbarian Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I never suggested releasing it without coding complete. What I'm saying is, if models end up holding up the game, don't sweat it on the models.

03-30-2005, 05:36 AM	#29
o_dirkpitt Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Too impatient barbarian. I personally want this mod to be ready for the general public b4 the team thinks about releasing. If they release without everything done people will just think they rushed to release and it will lose popularity.

03-30-2005, 09:37 AM	#30
o_deadeh Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Im happy waiting think the team are doing a good job and progressing quite nicely by the looks of things, id be quite disapointed to see a combine model running about with my beloved spanner (althought the engineer should be a vortigaunt ) Anyways, im glad they kept HL2 in the workshop so long so it was as good as it was.... same for this.. keep it till its nice then we can all have fun playing yay

03-31-2005, 04:36 AM	#32
o_dirkpitt Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That's cool

04-14-2006, 06:32 PM	#34
o_barbarian Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	So?

04-14-2006, 06:40 PM	#36
mirvin_monkey Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Town, SA Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	Haha, no

04-14-2006, 06:54 PM	#37
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Heh, I was reading through this and didn't remember seeing this back in March and then realized it was March of '05. So what?

04-14-2006, 06:58 PM	#39
o_yoshura Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i have to agree with everyone here, it wouldnt feel right having stock models in place....

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