Mulch_Trench Remake - Page 5

o_ginger lord · 11-20-2005, 02:59 PM

Don't worry, I'm like a bad stain, you can never get rid of me I always come back.

o_donny · 11-20-2005, 03:58 PM

Ok maby I bit over reacted with it

Mulchman MM · 01-09-2006, 04:52 PM

So gingerlord... how's it going man?

o_ginger lord · 01-09-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mulchman MM

So gingerlord... how's it going man?

Sadly not a lot, I'm co-lead of a unannouced Source Engine TC and that takes all my spare time, the rest of the time is taken up by my Degree course at university.

High End Modelling and animating (Cinema4D and XSI) and 2D Multimedia Design (Interface/Animation/Menu stuff) is time consuming stuff!

I will get down sometime and get some work done on it, hopefully before the Semester break (six weeks time)

o_etherealrage · 09-20-2006, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Lord

Sadly not a lot, I'm co-lead of a unannouced Source Engine TC and that takes all my spare time, the rest of the time is taken up by my Degree course at university.

High End Modelling and animating (Cinema4D and XSI) and 2D Multimedia Design (Interface/Animation/Menu stuff) is time consuming stuff!

I will get down sometime and get some work done on it, hopefully before the Semester break (six weeks time)

You should distribute that as a crowbar model. I'd hit it.

o_donny · 09-21-2006, 07:00 PM

I'd hit you with it.

*insert evil laugh track here*

o_nodnarb · 09-21-2006, 09:03 PM

ROFL

o_etherealrage · 09-22-2006, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny

I'd hit you with it.

*insert evil laugh track here*

It'd be an honor.

o_kindbud · 09-22-2006, 05:19 AM

The flag point should be raised slightly just like in the original. Slows things down for a second if O can't see the pipes between the flag point and the wall.

Jiggles · 01-09-2006, 09:43 PM

Gah! I've got issues.

The first thing I thought of when I saw that Pic was a flaccid penis...

My Freudian hangups aside, it looks good!

But you still have to finish the map :P

o_kam · 01-10-2006, 12:23 AM

Mr. Holland's Opus: Source?

o_valk · 01-10-2006, 03:03 AM

sigh kam

o_ginger lord · 01-22-2006, 12:29 PM

Ok, now I remembered why I stopped working on this, the texturing of all these curves is a killer!

Just did some more texture work to the front of the base, want to get the fronts done before I start on the insides. Any ideas on what the top bit should be like?

Edit: Done the top bit, man was it frustrating getting the angles right. Its not perfect seams because thats just insanely hard if not impossible to do but its good enough. Need to customise the textures for blue side as the current stock textures are more pale/baby blue than mean blue.

o_kam · 01-22-2006, 03:12 PM

Very nice. Can't wait till it's more "complete".

Defrag · 01-22-2006, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Lord

Ok, now I remembered why I stopped working on this, the texturing of all these curves is a killer!

You do know about alt-right click, right?

You can do the same thing across curves to ensure the texture doesn't stretch / maintains its angle. You can texture curves & other bevelled areas in about ~10 seconds instead of 10 minutes.

o_own3r · 01-22-2006, 03:31 PM

edit defrad said it...

o_ginger lord · 01-22-2006, 03:46 PM

Yeah I knew about it but it never seems to work at all for me. I select the first face and when I alt-rclick the next face, it just aligns it to the same angle as the first not the angle of the curve.

Edit: well it semi works, on simple curves like in your pictures its fine. Does that no problem, the big red things on the battlements however just don't play. I can get to match fine around the things, but if I try to make it follow it around the curve, it goes haywire. I'll upload one of them in a .vmf to see if its just me or the program.

Edit x2:

http://www.gingerlord.co.uk/curve.vmf

trepid_jesse · 01-23-2006, 12:41 AM

Well, looking at it, you aren't going to be able to maintain that black line around the edges. I would also say you picked a bad material for this geometry, too. That metal has both horizontal and vertical distinctive features, and trying to maintain them both across the curves and around the bend just isn't something that can be done, at least, as far as I know.

I textured them, and individually they look fine, but once you put them together you lose the uniformity of the distinctive features of those horizontal and vertical features that exist in the material. I mean, I suppose you could shift the shit around to get it to line up, but then you'll create other indescrepancies. Oh, I also textured it slightly different then the way you were going for, as I have the black banding wrapping around instead of trying to go along the edges because, uhh, that's not gonna be possible to do and maintain a seamless transition between the brushes.

I also simplified the brushwork. You were using 20 brushes, when 3 could be used.

www.trepid.net/files/curve2.vmf

o_ginger lord · 01-23-2006, 02:14 PM

Cheers Jesse, was going to eventually simplify them like that but never got round to it. I guess the horizontal banding is probably the better idea in retrospect.

o_afty · 01-23-2006, 02:49 PM

Woow i loved mulch_trench and this looks good !

dont forget the sexy voice though !

01-09-2006, 04:52 PM	#3
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	So gingerlord... how's it going man? __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

01-23-2006, 12:41 AM	#18
trepid_jesse Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well, looking at it, you aren't going to be able to maintain that black line around the edges. I would also say you picked a bad material for this geometry, too. That metal has both horizontal and vertical distinctive features, and trying to maintain them both across the curves and around the bend just isn't something that can be done, at least, as far as I know. I textured them, and individually they look fine, but once you put them together you lose the uniformity of the distinctive features of those horizontal and vertical features that exist in the material. I mean, I suppose you could shift the shit around to get it to line up, but then you'll create other indescrepancies. Oh, I also textured it slightly different then the way you were going for, as I have the black banding wrapping around instead of trying to go along the edges because, uhh, that's not gonna be possible to do and maintain a seamless transition between the brushes. I also simplified the brushwork. You were using 20 brushes, when 3 could be used. www.trepid.net/files/curve2.vmf __________________ Support FF: Trepid, what?

11-20-2005, 02:59 PM	#1
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Don't worry, I'm like a bad stain, you can never get rid of me I always come back.

11-20-2005, 03:58 PM	#2
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ok maby I *bit* over reacted with it

09-21-2006, 07:00 PM	#6
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'd hit you with it. insert evil laugh track here

09-21-2006, 09:03 PM	#7
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ROFL

09-22-2006, 05:19 AM	#9
o_kindbud Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The flag point should be raised slightly just like in the original. Slows things down for a second if O can't see the pipes between the flag point and the wall.

01-09-2006, 09:43 PM	#10
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Gah! I've got issues. The first thing I thought of when I saw that Pic was a flaccid penis... My Freudian hangups aside, it looks good! But you still have to finish the map :P

01-10-2006, 12:23 AM	#11
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Mr. Holland's Opus: Source?

01-10-2006, 03:03 AM	#12
o_valk Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	sigh kam

01-22-2006, 12:29 PM	#13
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ok, now I remembered why I stopped working on this, the texturing of all these curves is a killer! Just did some more texture work to the front of the base, want to get the fronts done before I start on the insides. Any ideas on what the top bit should be like? Edit: Done the top bit, man was it frustrating getting the angles right. Its not perfect seams because thats just insanely hard if not impossible to do but its good enough. Need to customise the textures for blue side as the current stock textures are more pale/baby blue than mean blue.

01-22-2006, 03:12 PM	#14
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Very nice. Can't wait till it's more "complete".

01-22-2006, 03:31 PM	#16
o_own3r Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	edit defrad said it...

01-22-2006, 03:46 PM	#17
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah I knew about it but it never seems to work at all for me. I select the first face and when I alt-rclick the next face, it just aligns it to the same angle as the first not the angle of the curve. Edit: well it semi works, on simple curves like in your pictures its fine. Does that no problem, the big red things on the battlements however just don't play. I can get to match fine around the things, but if I try to make it follow it around the curve, it goes haywire. I'll upload one of them in a .vmf to see if its just me or the program. Edit x2: http://www.gingerlord.co.uk/curve.vmf

01-23-2006, 02:14 PM	#19
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Cheers Jesse, was going to eventually simplify them like that but never got round to it. I guess the horizontal banding is probably the better idea in retrospect.

01-23-2006, 02:49 PM	#20
o_afty Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Naaarich Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Woow i loved mulch_trench and this looks good ! dont forget the sexy voice though !

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