intro to avi, looks good?

Mikael_hs · 09-28-2009, 07:50 PM

YouTube

For some reason the sound fucked up totally in the transfer and is not in its apropriate timeline, but just take my word that the images match the music well really. I really want the opinion of people who just started the game, not so much from oldskoolers,

AfterShock · 09-28-2009, 08:07 PM

Nice mikael, very nice

explanation of classes too, awesome.

Gator- · 09-28-2009, 08:07 PM

Looks nice, can't wait to see the final product!

KubeDawg · 09-28-2009, 10:57 PM

I think you are headed in the right direction for this video. I love how simple the instructions/tutorials are to follow.

gibz · 09-29-2009, 11:33 AM

If this continues the way it is going, meaning having a flow of things like it is a real game being played, this video will be my favorite FF video so far.

wakka · 09-29-2009, 04:07 PM

looks great mikael keep it up, it will be a hard graft but worth it !

Paft · 09-29-2009, 04:30 PM

I know it's just a draft a perhaps it was just a fook up?, but it was better when that "clap sound" on that track came in when we see the rockets like the other teaser you posted.

Mikael_hs · 09-29-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

For some reason the sound fucked up totally in the transfer and is not in its apropriate timeline, but just take my word that the images match the music well really.

Paft · 09-29-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael_hs

I am ashamed of myself.

TonyCip · 09-30-2009, 04:33 AM

Lovin' it!

gibz · 09-30-2009, 12:06 PM

When this video is completed, along with the training mode for the game, I think FF will be quite more user-friendly, or rather "newcomer-friendly" if you will.
Which is a good thing.

Mikael_hs · 09-30-2009, 01:23 PM

I uploaded a newer version containing all of the intro. Again the sound is fucked on youtube for whatever reason, probably cause im lazy and using wmv atm

Anyhow as you probably understand, the "blast" in the end is supposed to come along with the image.

KubeDawg · 09-30-2009, 08:04 PM

Main objectives seem kind of vague or incorrect. Main job of engineer is defense plain and simple. Maybe instead of making building and repairing SG the main objective, you should list that like you did with the scout for his jump pad.

Mikael_hs · 09-30-2009, 08:34 PM

yeah true, problem is that there's limited time, in particular with the spy. But yeah guess I'll have to squeeze it all in somehow

Dr.Satan · 09-30-2009, 08:40 PM

It's looking really nice Mikael!

but, yeah I kinda agree with Kube, like I don't think the HW's "main goal" is to kill things anymore than is the solly or demo.

I would suggest doing something more like:

Scout:
Offensive Class
Speed: Very High
Health: Low
Armour: Low
Power: Low
With the fastest speed and lightest armor of all the classes in Fortress Forever, the Scout specializes in avoiding combat and producing as much flag movement as possible.

* Then I would show the conc jump and the jump pad

You can get the class specs here(click).

And for the description, the one above is the #ff_help_scout text, but not all of those are accurate and/or work right IMO. I would just say try to be less opinionated in your description and try to leave some room for interpretation but set up guidelines for playing the class.

So instead of like "Soldier is for protecting the flagroom entrance," you could say "With his RPG and Super Shotgun, the soldier is great when used as a front line defender, to guard a key choke point or entrance."

For the HW, the ff_help_class works so "With the incredible power of the assault cannon, the Heavy Weapons Guy can often prove to be the greatest defensive class for many positions in which enemies are approaching from afar." rather than "kills stuff."

Mikael_hs · 09-30-2009, 08:42 PM

thats far too much text. I don't know, ill have to think about it.

"With his RPG and Super Shotgun, the soldier is great when used as a front line defender, to guard a key choke point or entrance."

I dont think a newb would understand wtf that means. Im not even sure I do

KubeDawg · 09-30-2009, 09:03 PM

Yeah I agree Mikael. Short and sweet. To the point, but enough to make it interesting. Use lingo that the every day gamer will understand. Use Rocket Launcher instead of RPG, or Wrench instead of Spanner.

How bout this:

Engineer
Class: Defense
Special Abilities:
- Build and Repair Sentry Gun and Dispenser
- Repair a teammate's armour with wrench

Demoman
Class: Defense
Special Abilities:
- Laying pipebombs to protect flag
- Setting Detpack to destroy anything in it's path

Heavy Weapons Guy
Class: Defense
Special Ability:
- Chain Gun to mow down enemy forces
- Mirv grenades - clusters of death

Sniper
Class: Useless(jk), Defense
Special Ability:
- Shooting enemy with sniper rifle adds radio tag
to assist your team's defense

Spy
Class: Offense/Defense
Special Abilities:
- Smart Cloak and ability to disguise as a friend or foe.
- Ability to sabotage Sentry Guns and Dispensers.

Etc.

**Elmo** · 09-30-2009, 09:20 PM

I like that kube

ryu^ · 09-30-2009, 10:05 PM

what is a wrench? ;p

looks excellent, love the direction, just dont include too much bhopping if you don't want instant fail

oh wait thats fortress forever!

Mikael_hs · 09-30-2009, 10:48 PM

thing is kube, I want to keep it as simple as possible. For one, "offense class" doesn't say much about the role a scout has in tfc. That's why I went with "main goal: get the enemy flag". Some people have never even played ctf maps, and this is really sposed to be for anyone... We already have ryu's avi for pro-gamers.

If im not doing the class thing with everyone, im not doing it with just the defensive classes. Also the detpack doesnt come into play, so thats one the newbs will have to find out for themselves

Ill do some changes however, but not exactly the ones suggested here

thxs!

Regarding bunnyjumping; just wait till the outro

09-28-2009, 08:07 PM	#3
Gator- FF God Join Date: May 2007 Location: TX Class/Position: Scout O, Medic O, Demo D/O, Soldier D Gametype: CTF 4v4 Affiliations: [milkwood] ( GoodFellas ) Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Looks nice, can't wait to see the final product! __________________ FF_ROASTED_CLASSIC [RELEASED] FF_EVENFLOW_B2 [RELEASED] FF_OPPOSE_B1 [COMING SOON]

09-28-2009, 10:57 PM	#4
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	I think you are headed in the right direction for this video. I love how simple the instructions/tutorials are to follow. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

09-29-2009, 11:33 AM	#5
gibz Title title title title Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: VA Class/Position: Medic O, Soldier D Gametype: CTF, Water Battle Affiliations: :e0: and n-t Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If this continues the way it is going, meaning having a flow of things like it is a real game being played, this video will be my favorite FF video so far. __________________

09-29-2009, 04:30 PM	#7
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	I know it's just a draft a perhaps it was just a fook up?, but it was better when that "clap sound" on that track came in when we see the rockets like the other teaser you posted. __________________ TFC Resource TFC/FF/TF2 customs at: ZZUBYTTIHS - www.tfcgaschamber.com - www.ozfortress.com - www.fpsbanana.com - mrclan.com - TFC Essentials Jan 2012

09-30-2009, 04:33 AM	#10
TonyCip shloomp Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UHEUHEUHUEH Class/Position: hhehehheh Gametype: uAEHUAHEHUHUA Affiliations: [S&N] [2D2C] +M\|M+ ^vi Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Lovin' it! __________________

09-28-2009, 08:07 PM	#2
AfterShock Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 45 Times	Nice mikael, very nice explanation of classes too, awesome.

09-29-2009, 04:07 PM	#6
wakka Join Date: Aug 2009 Class/Position: top Gametype: pwning caroline in bed Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	looks great mikael keep it up, it will be a hard graft but worth it !

09-30-2009, 12:06 PM	#11
gibz Title title title title Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: VA Class/Position: Medic O, Soldier D Gametype: CTF, Water Battle Affiliations: :e0: and n-t Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	When this video is completed, along with the training mode for the game, I think FF will be quite more user-friendly, or rather "newcomer-friendly" if you will. Which is a good thing. __________________ Last edited by gibz; 09-30-2009 at 12:07 PM.

09-30-2009, 01:23 PM	#12
Mikael_hs Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Affiliations: Wazzazzaza Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I uploaded a newer version containing all of the intro. Again the sound is fucked on youtube for whatever reason, probably cause im lazy and using wmv atm Anyhow as you probably understand, the "blast" in the end is supposed to come along with the image.

09-30-2009, 08:04 PM	#13
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	Main objectives seem kind of vague or incorrect. Main job of engineer is defense plain and simple. Maybe instead of making building and repairing SG the main objective, you should list that like you did with the scout for his jump pad. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

09-30-2009, 08:34 PM	#14
Mikael_hs Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Affiliations: Wazzazzaza Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah true, problem is that there's limited time, in particular with the spy. But yeah guess I'll have to squeeze it all in somehow

09-30-2009, 08:40 PM	#15
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	It's looking really nice Mikael! but, yeah I kinda agree with Kube, like I don't think the HW's "main goal" is to kill things anymore than is the solly or demo. I would suggest doing something more like: Scout: Offensive Class Speed: Very High Health: Low Armour: Low Power: Low With the fastest speed and lightest armor of all the classes in Fortress Forever, the Scout specializes in avoiding combat and producing as much flag movement as possible. * Then I would show the conc jump and the jump pad You can get the class specs here(click). And for the description, the one above is the #ff_help_scout text, but not all of those are accurate and/or work right IMO. I would just say try to be less opinionated in your description and try to leave some room for interpretation but set up guidelines for playing the class. So instead of like "Soldier is for protecting the flagroom entrance," you could say "With his RPG and Super Shotgun, the soldier is great when used as a front line defender, to guard a key choke point or entrance." For the HW, the ff_help_class works so "With the incredible power of the assault cannon, the Heavy Weapons Guy can often prove to be the greatest defensive class for many positions in which enemies are approaching from afar." rather than "kills stuff." __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

09-30-2009, 08:42 PM	#16
Mikael_hs Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Affiliations: Wazzazzaza Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thats far too much text. I don't know, ill have to think about it. "With his RPG and Super Shotgun, the soldier is great when used as a front line defender, to guard a key choke point or entrance." I dont think a newb would understand wtf that means. Im not even sure I do Last edited by Mikael_hs; 09-30-2009 at 08:43 PM.

09-30-2009, 09:03 PM	#17
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	Yeah I agree Mikael. Short and sweet. To the point, but enough to make it interesting. Use lingo that the every day gamer will understand. Use Rocket Launcher instead of RPG, or Wrench instead of Spanner. How bout this: Engineer Class: Defense Special Abilities: - Build and Repair Sentry Gun and Dispenser - Repair a teammate's armour with wrench Demoman Class: Defense Special Abilities: - Laying pipebombs to protect flag - Setting Detpack to destroy anything in it's path Heavy Weapons Guy Class: Defense Special Ability: - Chain Gun to mow down enemy forces - Mirv grenades - clusters of death Sniper Class: Useless(jk), Defense Special Ability: - Shooting enemy with sniper rifle adds radio tag to assist your team's defense Spy Class: Offense/Defense Special Abilities: - Smart Cloak and ability to disguise as a friend or foe. - Ability to sabotage Sentry Guns and Dispensers. Etc. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete Last edited by KubeDawg; 09-30-2009 at 09:05 PM.

09-30-2009, 09:20 PM	#18
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	I like that kube __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

09-30-2009, 10:05 PM	#19
ryu^ Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	what is a wrench? ;p looks excellent, love the direction, just dont include too much bhopping if you don't want instant fail oh wait thats fortress forever!

09-30-2009, 10:48 PM	#20
Mikael_hs Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Affiliations: Wazzazzaza Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thing is kube, I want to keep it as simple as possible. For one, "offense class" doesn't say much about the role a scout has in tfc. That's why I went with "main goal: get the enemy flag". Some people have never even played ctf maps, and this is really sposed to be for anyone... We already have ryu's avi for pro-gamers. If im not doing the class thing with everyone, im not doing it with just the defensive classes. Also the detpack doesnt come into play, so thats one the newbs will have to find out for themselves Ill do some changes however, but not exactly the ones suggested here thxs! Regarding bunnyjumping; just wait till the outro Last edited by Mikael_hs; 09-30-2009 at 11:04 PM.

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