Bots & Spies

o_imbrifer · 06-28-2006, 02:52 PM

Quick bot question:

How will bots detect spies? Will they occaisonally shoot at fellow players to see if they are bots? If they look at someone who is disguised for a while, will they 'see their name' and guess its not really that player and attack the spy? Will they be completely oblivious to spies?

If I make a map where the players are spies sneaking into a bot-controlled base, will it work?

o_rannibunny · 06-28-2006, 03:25 PM

I didn't know they were even going to implement bots...

Lost · 06-28-2006, 03:37 PM

The latest Foxbot was pretty good at spy recognition, but it wouldn't instantly shoot you if you were disguised. I'd get mowed every once in a while when I feigned as well.

o_ghost · 06-28-2006, 03:40 PM

From the community FAQ:

Is the FF Team going to have Control Over Bots?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Defrag
We keep telling people that we can either have some semblance of control of bot development (and do it inhouse thanks to DrEvil) or someone will make 3rd party bots regardless, over which we have no control (so they could be terrible but popular). The added bonus of doing it inhouse is we can use bots for other stuff like training maps.

As for the bot status, DrEvil has fully functioning HL2 bots, but we haven't really done a huge amount of work on integrating them with FF just yet (not hard to plug them in). That's coming up very soon. We have a lot of good ideas for making bots contribute to the mod.

o_imbrifer · 06-28-2006, 03:55 PM

Err, I think that FAQ entry is super-old. I think the bots are more in tune with FF now? Guess a FF team member will have to clear things up...

o_ghost · 06-28-2006, 04:27 PM

That was more directed at rannibunny. Sorry for the confusion.

o_fjorn · 06-29-2006, 08:42 AM

Its been my experience with foxbots and spies, that they have a sort of checklist they go through

something along these lines:
Has the Spy fired its weapons after spawning?
Has the Spy thrown a nade after spawning?
Has the Spy been seen undisguised by a bot after spawning?
Has the Spy "touched" a bot after spawning?
Has the Spy been damaged by a bot after spawning?

if the answer to any of those is yes, the bot shoots at the spy. Kinda like a team with good comms, except better.

Circuitous · 06-29-2006, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rannibunny

I didn't know they were even going to implement bots...

Mostly for the tutorial mode, as I understand it, although they could be used for servers.

o_rifle · 06-30-2006, 01:13 AM

Bots are a must please do not release until you have bots.

o_paft · 06-30-2006, 03:15 PM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Don't mention the word bots and FF together. It's like saying Bots and TFC Ahhhhhhhhh!

o_dammage · 06-30-2006, 03:52 PM

bots should be banned from pubs IMO. They just pollute the server list.

06-28-2006, 02:52 PM	#1
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Bots & Spies Quick bot question: How will bots detect spies? Will they occaisonally shoot at fellow players to see if they are bots? If they look at someone who is disguised for a while, will they 'see their name' and guess its not really that player and attack the spy? Will they be completely oblivious to spies? If I make a map where the players are spies sneaking into a bot-controlled base, will it work?

06-28-2006, 03:37 PM	#3
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	The latest Foxbot was pretty good at spy recognition, but it wouldn't instantly shoot you if you were disguised. I'd get mowed every once in a while when I feigned as well. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

06-28-2006, 03:25 PM	#2
o_rannibunny Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I didn't know they were even going to implement bots...

06-28-2006, 03:40 PM	#4
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	From the community FAQ: Is the FF Team going to have Control Over Bots? Quote: Originally Posted by Defrag We keep telling people that we can either have some semblance of control of bot development (and do it inhouse thanks to DrEvil) or someone will make 3rd party bots regardless, over which we have no control (so they could be terrible but popular). The added bonus of doing it inhouse is we can use bots for other stuff like training maps. As for the bot status, DrEvil has fully functioning HL2 bots, but we haven't really done a huge amount of work on integrating them with FF just yet (not hard to plug them in). That's coming up very soon. We have a lot of good ideas for making bots contribute to the mod.

06-28-2006, 03:55 PM	#5
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Err, I think that FAQ entry is super-old. I think the bots are more in tune with FF now? Guess a FF team member will have to clear things up...

06-28-2006, 04:27 PM	#6
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That was more directed at rannibunny. Sorry for the confusion.

06-29-2006, 08:42 AM	#7
o_fjorn Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Its been my experience with foxbots and spies, that they have a sort of checklist they go through something along these lines: Has the Spy fired its weapons after spawning? Has the Spy thrown a nade after spawning? Has the Spy been seen undisguised by a bot after spawning? Has the Spy "touched" a bot after spawning? Has the Spy been damaged by a bot after spawning? if the answer to any of those is yes, the bot shoots at the spy. Kinda like a team with good comms, except better.

06-30-2006, 01:13 AM	#9
o_rifle Join Date: May 2006 Location: could you give me directions Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Bots are a must please do not release until you have bots.

06-30-2006, 03:15 PM	#10
o_paft Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Don't mention the word bots and FF together. It's like saying Bots and TFC Ahhhhhhhhh!

06-30-2006, 03:52 PM	#11
o_dammage Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	bots should be banned from pubs IMO. They just pollute the server list.

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