[REQUEST] Cartoon Models

KubeDawg · 12-28-2007, 06:51 PM

I don't want this to get into a OMG U WANT TF2 MODELS?! thread, because that's not what I want.

Here's a screeny:

Anyone working on anything like this or even know if it's possible?

DarkieJ · 12-28-2007, 07:09 PM

that screenie looks like tf2:P Haha

ontopic, Looks nice i would have that too. I dont think anyone is on it

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 12-28-2007, 08:59 PM

Its something Ive started working on. (starting w/ the RPG). Its a very labor intensive project tho.. so don't expect it any time soon. I have to give priority on reworking some stuff for FF 2.0, so my side projects will get done as I have time.

StatisticZ · 12-28-2007, 10:29 PM

Those are from TFC aren't they, and it's just cell shading.

Jester · 12-29-2007, 04:58 AM

If I knew how to decompile/recompile source models correctly I could get this done pretty quick. Tutorial anyone?

pF · 12-29-2007, 08:39 AM

Modelling as opposed to reskinning is a lot more work.. and depending on how different the new model is from the original, it also includes rigging, weightmapping, animating and so on.

I've got a couple of ideas for new player models too, but bleh still doing medkit weightmaps. And i wanted to design a new IC after that.. it shouldn't look exactly like the RPG.

EDIT: Jester, grab Studiocompiler , it includes the MDL decompiler. Then you can check out the SMD's with either XSI's Modtool (which i use), or Milkshape or 3D Studio Max, whichever has SMD import tools.

MegaTurtle · 12-29-2007, 09:01 AM

The models would look cool probably, but once you stuck them in the maps they'd look foolish and misplaced.

Firefox11 · 12-29-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MegaTurtle

The models would look cool probably, but once you stuck them in the maps they'd look foolish and misplaced.

It happened in TFC too, but that didn't make less cool ;D. The only "problem" was that sometimes you would see them completely black in long-range.

GhostBuster · 12-29-2007, 05:10 PM

I think people used this ones cos they made models much more easier to spott, just as the crappy toilet-looking walls.

Adamido · 12-29-2007, 07:30 PM

One question... my gfx card cant render cel-shading.Can I play with these models, when they'll be ready to download?

KubeDawg · 12-30-2007, 12:20 AM

You could try downloading the TFC cell shaded models and install them temporarily and test that to see if it works.

Jester · 12-30-2007, 02:50 AM

They are not technically cel-shaded(in any HL mod). The model is just enlarged and inversed so it appears as an outline while it is actually just a bubble around the model. So it's more of a question if your card can handle twice the polies for each of whatever model you want.

pF · 12-30-2007, 12:37 PM

That's not an actual screenshot though, is it?

Mad_Clog · 12-30-2007, 05:41 PM

it's a screenshot made in tfc

Doompiggy · 12-30-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamido

One question... my gfx card cant render cel-shading.Can I play with these models, when they'll be ready to download?

How exactly can a graphics card NOT render a model? I could understand poly count being to high or something along those lines, but not being able to render cel-shading? That's retarded.

Adamido · 12-30-2007, 06:26 PM

^
lol yeah.My bad.

**Crazycarl** · 12-30-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasuke~!

How exactly can a graphics card NOT render a model? I could understand poly count being to high or something along those lines, but not being able to render cel-shading? That's retarded.

If the shader used DirectX 9 commands but you had an old dx8 card, it would not be able to render the shader. In HL2 it would have to use a fallback shader.

פֿяαιп βαмαgεפ · 12-30-2007, 08:57 PM

Beh, I hate tampering with models, just leave FF as it is.

Doompiggy · 12-30-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazycarl

If the shader used DirectX 9 commands but you had an old dx8 card, it would not be able to render the shader. In HL2 it would have to use a fallback shader.

I know that, but the TFC cartoon models are basically just two models. One main model and a second "shell". Oh, and just so you know, cel-shading isn't a shader.

KubeDawg · 12-31-2007, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by פֿяαιп βαмαgεפ

Beh, I hate tampering with models, just leave FF as it is.

NO! SHUN!

12-28-2007, 06:51 PM	#1
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12-30-2007, 12:20 AM	#11
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	You could try downloading the TFC cell shaded models and install them temporarily and test that to see if it works. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

12-28-2007, 07:09 PM	#2
DarkieJ Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	that screenie looks like tf2:P Haha ontopic, Looks nice i would have that too. I dont think anyone is on it

12-28-2007, 10:29 PM	#4
StatisticZ My title is... Custom. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tri-State Area Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Those are from TFC aren't they, and it's just cell shading.

12-29-2007, 04:58 AM	#5
Jester Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: O: Scout Affiliations: {NFO} - New Family Order Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If I knew how to decompile/recompile source models correctly I could get this done pretty quick. Tutorial anyone?

12-29-2007, 08:39 AM	#6
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Modelling as opposed to reskinning is a lot more work.. and depending on how different the new model is from the original, it also includes rigging, weightmapping, animating and so on. I've got a couple of ideas for new player models too, but bleh still doing medkit weightmaps. And i wanted to design a new IC after that.. it shouldn't look exactly like the RPG. EDIT: Jester, grab Studiocompiler , it includes the MDL decompiler. Then you can check out the SMD's with either XSI's Modtool (which i use), or Milkshape or 3D Studio Max, whichever has SMD import tools.

12-29-2007, 09:01 AM	#7
MegaTurtle Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The models would look cool probably, but once you stuck them in the maps they'd look foolish and misplaced.

12-29-2007, 05:10 PM	#9
GhostBuster SHUT UP AND SWALLOW Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Argentina Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think people used this ones cos they made models much more easier to spott, just as the crappy toilet-looking walls.

12-29-2007, 07:30 PM	#10
Adamido Its over nine thousands!!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Class/Position: midmap pyro / o spy Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	One question... my gfx card cant render cel-shading.Can I play with these models, when they'll be ready to download?

12-30-2007, 02:50 AM	#12
Jester Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: O: Scout Affiliations: {NFO} - New Family Order Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	They are not technically cel-shaded(in any HL mod). The model is just enlarged and inversed so it appears as an outline while it is actually just a bubble around the model. So it's more of a question if your card can handle twice the polies for each of whatever model you want.

12-30-2007, 12:37 PM	#13
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	That's not an actual screenshot though, is it?

12-30-2007, 05:41 PM	#14
Mad_Clog Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	it's a screenshot made in tfc

12-30-2007, 06:26 PM	#16
Adamido Its over nine thousands!!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Class/Position: midmap pyro / o spy Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	^ lol yeah.My bad.

12-30-2007, 08:57 PM	#18
פֿяαιп βαмαgεפ Annoying people since 1986 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Belgium a.k.a. absurdistan Class/Position: O fatty, pyro - D engy, pyro Gametype: CTF Affiliations: This space for rent. Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Beh, I hate tampering with models, just leave FF as it is.

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