The "Bitch About Updates" Thread. - Page 304

o_blort · 01-31-2007, 08:02 PM

its my birthday at the end of this day

well actually its my brothers birtday but stays in the family

so how about a nice newspost wich says

"The moment you've all been waiting for!"

*insert link to download*

Fortress Forever is upon you, become one with the game and conc and airshot and cap flags as never before!

gogo here's our server *insert server-ip here*

Have fun and see you on the battlefield!

o_nodnarb · 01-31-2007, 09:07 PM

or even better...
so how about a nice newspost wich says

"The moment you've all been waiting for!"

*insert FAKE link to download*

Fortress Forever is upon you, become one with the game and conc and airshot and cap flags as never before!

gogo here's our server *insert server-ip here*

Have fun and see you on the battlefield!

make a crazy big file that doesn't relate to FF just to piss every one off.

o_nezumi · 02-01-2007, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mervaka

to be fair, a load of new issues have popped up! they need fixing before anything happens!

We can't be fair unless we hear about these things. (From a dev).
More dev jernals would make us all happier.

o_blort · 02-01-2007, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nezumi

We can't be fair unless we hear about these things. (From a dev).
More dev jernals would make us all happier.

indeed then we know why the mod isn't released yet instead of keeping us in the dark

o_cosides · 02-01-2007, 08:36 AM

No need to hurry with the release

o_nezumi · 02-01-2007, 10:40 AM

Yea, just hurry with the dev jernals.

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-01-2007, 11:30 AM

No, just hurry with the leaks.

o_duffmanhb · 02-02-2007, 01:34 AM

Im just worried that if they dont release soon enough, they arent going to build a strong enough fanbase to live-out TF2. Honestly. If they are released too close together, im positive FF will fade quickly. Im sorry, its just the truth.

Atleast they could releease the current beta and just do alot of patches. SImular to I.I.

There beta wasnt so great. But with all the response from the community, within 2 weeks the game was up-to-par.

o_geokill-----> · 02-02-2007, 01:44 AM

Man how many times have I read that shit lol

o_paft · 02-02-2007, 02:05 AM

What difference does it make what time it's released?

You could say if FF or a beta was released before TF2 then when TF2 is eventually available people will be exited and jump to TF2, or vice versa

It's what a person will prefer in the end not which comes first.
Dumb thing to say.

o_guru.be · 02-02-2007, 03:04 PM

Wise Words.

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 03:50 PM

No, FF definitely needs to release first. Whatever you like to believe that release dates make no difference, they definitely do.

o_psycnet · 02-02-2007, 04:22 PM

Yeah I mean look how much release dates mean in terms of consoles...Dreamcast won that round right? Saturn too eh?

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 04:35 PM

Haha cock you're funny!

TF2 comes out first, it totally overshadows FF. The only people playing FF will be the active members here, a small population. The players that are sitting on the fence will flock to the first one out. Unless the first one out is really bad, or the second 100 times better, people won't be likely to switch.

The average player wants something that's fun. And the core group of guys here are all about the clan scene and hardcore playing. From my view, TF2 looks like more fun than FF, regardless of which is a better game. So FF really should push to come out first.

o_psycnet · 02-02-2007, 04:46 PM

You can tell how fun something is from ~10 minutes of released footage (none of which shows any real straight up gameplay)?

Face it, you're as in the dark about which one will be more fun as pretty much everyone else on earth and are running on assumptions, and I don't think I need to mention what happens when you assume

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 04:58 PM

That's not what I mean. I mean from the communities. The core of the FF comunity is centered around hardcore clanning action with strategies and all that, and TF2 is appealing to the newer players, so there will be much more happygolucky pub action.

o_psycnet · 02-02-2007, 05:08 PM

Very true, but if say either are terrible games, it won't matter who the intended community is, it simply won't be played.

Besides, FF may never be a simple 'pay n play' through steam like TF2, but I'm sure the devs are smart enough to market the crap out of it on HL2/Fortress sites, and make the download/installer as painless as possible.

We're dealing with some pretty impressive credentials for the team here, it's not like the FF team is a bunch of first-timers

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 05:12 PM

And nowhere did I imply that they were. This has nothign to do with marketing, it's got to do with who releases first, and I guarantee you it will make a difference.

o_psycnet · 02-02-2007, 05:16 PM

Well once again we still have yet to see barely a fraction more than what was released for TF2: Brotherhood 9 years ago, so there's always the rare chance Valve could be pulling a full out vaporware on us :/

As it stands, I think any concern about FF being out before TF2 are moot, because it's inevitable TF2 will be pushed back even farther and FF is closer to completion in contrast.

This = the best discussion in this thread in 18 months

o_()))crayola))_> · 02-02-2007, 05:38 PM

I think the discussions that TF2 is vaporware are pretty false. I mean they've shown us much more than the old version, and they will be releasing it with Episode 2. So to come out and say TF2 is vaporware is to say that Ep2 and Portal won't be released for another 9 years, which is also phony.

TF2:Brotherhood was talked about when Team Fortress was very popular. It was the game to play, and when nothing came of it, the upset really wasn't that spectacular. People were just mopy.

But now, TF2 along with FF have really reawakened interest in the game and for Valve to back out now would be the worst move they've ever made. And all hating aside, Gabe is not a dumb guy. He is very smart and has created one of the most intelligent and forward-thinking companies in the gaming industry.

TF2's projected release date is sometime in April am I right (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember at all). So suppose this time they're right and they are going to release it at the time they say. They've already pushed it back twice, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're right this time. FF has already hinted at releases and then pushed far back, and from the dev journals and dev comments, progress is quite slow.

I wouldn't really be all that surprised if TF2 came out first, given FF's current state. I would be less surprised though if FF got it back together and released next month.

But all back to the original point, I think it's very important for the longevity of FF that they release first.

01-31-2007, 08:02 PM	#6061
o_blort Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	its my birthday at the end of this day well actually its my brothers birtday but stays in the family so how about a nice newspost wich says "The moment you've all been waiting for!" insert link to download Fortress Forever is upon you, become one with the game and conc and airshot and cap flags as never before! gogo here's our server insert server-ip here Have fun and see you on the battlefield!

01-31-2007, 09:07 PM	#6062
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	or even better... so how about a nice newspost wich says "The moment you've all been waiting for!" insert FAKE* link to download* Fortress Forever is upon you, become one with the game and conc and airshot and cap flags as never before! gogo here's our server insert server-ip here Have fun and see you on the battlefield! make a crazy big file that doesn't relate to FF just to piss every one off.

02-01-2007, 08:36 AM	#6065
o_cosides Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No need to hurry with the release

02-01-2007, 10:40 AM	#6066
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yea, just hurry with the dev jernals.

02-01-2007, 11:30 AM	#6067
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No, just hurry with the leaks.

02-02-2007, 01:34 AM	#6068
o_duffmanhb Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: OC, cali Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Im just worried that if they dont release soon enough, they arent going to build a strong enough fanbase to live-out TF2. Honestly. If they are released too close together, im positive FF will fade quickly. Im sorry, its just the truth. Atleast they could releease the current beta and just do alot of patches. SImular to I.I. There beta wasnt so great. But with all the response from the community, within 2 weeks the game was up-to-par.

02-02-2007, 01:44 AM	#6069
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Man how many times have I read that shit lol

02-02-2007, 02:05 AM	#6070
o_paft Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	What difference does it make what time it's released? You could say if FF or a beta was released before TF2 then when TF2 is eventually available people will be exited and jump to TF2, or vice versa It's what a person will prefer in the end not which comes first. Dumb thing to say.

02-02-2007, 03:04 PM	#6071
o_guru.be Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium, West-Flanders Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wise Words.

02-02-2007, 03:50 PM	#6072
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No, FF definitely needs to release first. Whatever you like to believe that release dates make no difference, they definitely do.

02-02-2007, 04:22 PM	#6073
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah I mean look how much release dates mean in terms of consoles...Dreamcast won that round right? Saturn too eh?

02-02-2007, 04:35 PM	#6074
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Haha cock you're funny! TF2 comes out first, it totally overshadows FF. The only people playing FF will be the active members here, a small population. The players that are sitting on the fence will flock to the first one out. Unless the first one out is really bad, or the second 100 times better, people won't be likely to switch. The average player wants something that's fun. And the core group of guys here are all about the clan scene and hardcore playing. From my view, TF2 looks like more fun than FF, regardless of which is a better game. So FF really should push to come out first.

02-02-2007, 04:46 PM	#6075
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	You can tell how fun something is from ~10 minutes of released footage (none of which shows any real straight up gameplay)? Face it, you're as in the dark about which one will be more fun as pretty much everyone else on earth and are running on assumptions, and I don't think I need to mention what happens when you assume

02-02-2007, 04:58 PM	#6076
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That's not what I mean. I mean from the communities. The core of the FF comunity is centered around hardcore clanning action with strategies and all that, and TF2 is appealing to the newer players, so there will be much more happygolucky pub action.

02-02-2007, 05:08 PM	#6077
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Very true, but if say either are terrible games, it won't matter who the intended community is, it simply won't be played. Besides, FF may never be a simple 'pay n play' through steam like TF2, but I'm sure the devs are smart enough to market the crap out of it on HL2/Fortress sites, and make the download/installer as painless as possible. We're dealing with some pretty impressive credentials for the team here, it's not like the FF team is a bunch of first-timers

02-02-2007, 05:12 PM	#6078
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	And nowhere did I imply that they were. This has nothign to do with marketing, it's got to do with who releases first, and I guarantee you it will make a difference.

02-02-2007, 05:16 PM	#6079
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well once again we still have yet to see barely a fraction more than what was released for TF2: Brotherhood 9 years ago, so there's always the rare chance Valve could be pulling a full out vaporware on us :/ As it stands, I think any concern about FF being out before TF2 are moot, because it's inevitable TF2 will be pushed back even farther and FF is closer to completion in contrast. This = the best discussion in this thread in 18 months

02-02-2007, 05:38 PM	#6080
o_()))crayola))_> Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think the discussions that TF2 is vaporware are pretty false. I mean they've shown us much more than the old version, and they will be releasing it with Episode 2. So to come out and say TF2 is vaporware is to say that Ep2 and Portal won't be released for another 9 years, which is also phony. TF2:Brotherhood was talked about when Team Fortress was very popular. It was the game to play, and when nothing came of it, the upset really wasn't that spectacular. People were just mopy. But now, TF2 along with FF have really reawakened interest in the game and for Valve to back out now would be the worst move they've ever made. And all hating aside, Gabe is not a dumb guy. He is very smart and has created one of the most intelligent and forward-thinking companies in the gaming industry. TF2's projected release date is sometime in April am I right (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember at all). So suppose this time they're right and they are going to release it at the time they say. They've already pushed it back twice, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're right this time. FF has already hinted at releases and then pushed far back, and from the dev journals and dev comments, progress is quite slow. I wouldn't really be all that surprised if TF2 came out first, given FF's current state. I would be less surprised though if FF got it back together and released next month. But all back to the original point, I think it's very important for the longevity of FF that they release first.

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