[Surprise!] FF_Avanti_Classic

[Skanky Butterpuss]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Effective or not, I'd like to see that spot available. It's part of the charm to the TFC version, and shouldn't be difficult to open up.

yes, please remove this map from all servers, make this edit, recompile, and rerelease to open up one ineffective sg/sniper spot.

[Firefox11]

Played it, had a blast! Unfortunately, I couldn't try to reach the Sniping Roof (forgot that you can HH grenade as Sniper in FF without dying in the proccess, and a throw grenade jump didn't cut it...) so if it's open or not, it's still a mistery to me... D=

Something that bugs me, it seems you can actually shoot through the gates (even as Sniper, there's a line of holes in the gates that look like you can shot through them). Anyways, it's not a big issue and probably less exploitable than nades over gates.

[Crazycarl]

What roof are you all talking about? I can open up spots as long as they don't break the gameplay or optimization.

[Firefox11]

I'm talking about the last D spawn. Just as you spawn, there's a building at the left side, which you could nade jump on the roof in TFC. I didn't get up there in the FF version, so it may not need "fixing". I don't know if this one is the one Iggy is talking about though =o

[tim_]

I played it 5v5, and 11v11 and it still didn't lose any game play









GreenMushy + 1 gold star

[Desyphur]

OHSHI-

[GeoKill----->]

This map is being played almost 24/7
Everytime I check my server, its playing avanti

[Nelson340]

Originally Posted by GeoKill----->

This map is being played almost 24/7
Everytime I check my server, its playing avanti

Well, duh, people have been waiting for it.

Nice map BTW.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by Firefox11

I'm talking about the last D spawn. Just as you spawn, there's a building at the left side, which you could nade jump on the roof in TFC. I didn't get up there in the FF version, so it may not need "fixing". I don't know if this one is the one Iggy is talking about though =o

Yeah, that's the one. I'll post a screenshot as soon as I can get one. I just tried to get one... but it didn't work.

Edit: Here they are. Look just below the crosshairs, that's the roof in question.


Here's the view from the back of the Church.



Skanky, I know people have been waiting for this one.... which is why I mentioned it.

Of course, we could just keep the "fixed" version unreleased until the 2.2 patch, which could automatically update it.

[im2cool4uroflolz]

Put this on [o-t], stat.

[EquilibriuM]

Ok this shit is just retarded imo, why put a map imperfection back into this map? and on top of that its a spot in the spawn room of D , let's just bring back O team raping spawn like in tfc b/c ppl snipe put a sg there?
I strongly dis-approve this idea. This msg was brough to you by the Fortress Forever Federation. FFF Heil!

[Crazycarl]

I'm doing the official version, and I'm not going to put in bugs/features just because they were in TFC. If there are opportunities like this that make the map more fun i'll do it. I'll also style it so that it's obvious you can get up there. i.e. all tile roofs will be off-limits; all playable surfaces will look like floors.

Thanks for the screens, iggy. I had no idea where that spot was. i installed TFC to look around and boy, has it aged.

[Iggy]

No problem. I'm not the only person who liked being able to get up there, and there IS a way to avoid that area(have a demo open the back of the church, DUH).... but it's kinda like the rafters on Crossover2(TFC) outside of main respawn, and the lights near the flag chamber of Badlands(TFC).... and the pipes above the basement resupply on 2fort(TFC).... and countless other places in hundreds of TFC maps....... little spots to discover, that you can take advantage of. Maybe they were planned, maybe they weren't. That doesn't subtract from the fun of using those places, and having people yell, "HEY!!! What's up with that?!"

[Firefox11]

Originally Posted by EquilibriuM

Ok this shit is just retarded imo, why put a map imperfection back into this map? and on top of that its a spot in the spawn room of D , let's just bring back O team raping spawn like in tfc b/c ppl snipe put a sg there?
I strongly dis-approve this idea. This msg was brough to you by the Fortress Forever Federation. FFF Heil!

Having played 80% of AvD in TFC, I can tell you, 100% sure, that nobody EVER managed to get up a SG here as Offense, mainly because of the Respawn Turret, which would turn it to shreds.

I did get up there as Sniper Offense once or twice when we were attacking the church, but after the 2nd or 3rd kill somebody would either throw a frag or Rjump up there (note that you can't aim to where the players spawn due to the Respawn Turret raping you would receive ;D).

As Iggy said (more or less lulz), it just makes the Offense think "Wtf is he doin THERE?!" once or twice, then they just kill you =o