rock2 and other "rejected maps"

o_rmx · 01-20-2005, 04:09 PM

make rejected maps like these playable for leagues... also badlands (maybe) and bloodtube, and flagrun!

o_morgz · 01-20-2005, 04:20 PM

rock2 stopped being played due to it actually being similiar to "the rock" and thus impossible to cap on.

there was a map rock2_rc or something which changed this problem a little by making a few minor map changes but, more importantly, adding points bonuses for the movement of the key (2 points for any sort of touch, 2 more points for reachin yard.... etc).

badlands was a little rubbish from my memory. Next thing u will be doing is asking for the recall of bam :S

o_ohcanep · 01-20-2005, 04:32 PM

Improved versions of rock2 and badlands would be great.. but don't forget crossover2 either. :P

o_3xternal · 01-20-2005, 06:37 PM

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rock2 stopped being played due to it actually being similiar to "the rock" and thus impossible to cap on.

I'mglad someone sharesthis opinion. I always thought that with a few SGs and a good HW, that map was not fun at all for offense.

o_ekim · 01-20-2005, 06:43 PM

Or rebo as demoman piping the T

o_anshinritsumai · 01-20-2005, 09:13 PM

I would love to see a remake of;

rock2
badlands
avanti
dustbowl
2fort
crossover2

and my personal favorite:
flagrun

o_storm · 01-20-2005, 09:39 PM

on publics there is NO map that is as fun to cap on as rock2. Dont you remember the buzz of running to the gc?

o_frontovik · 01-20-2005, 09:49 PM

Someone mentioned in another thread that the crossover2 bridge is too short, so offence players tend to DM each other on the way across. Perhaps the bridge could be elongated to remove this tactic, and bring the map back to match play? I would like to see crossover return, it being my favourite map.

During my first game on rock2 one of my team fell down the pit in the mine shaft with the key, carrying it back to our base. He was subsequently heavily flamed, which was lucky for me as I surely would have done the same thing on my first go

o_damage · 01-20-2005, 11:29 PM

I would prefer to see 2 bridges in the center of the map in a X shape, like the map name suggest crossover. The bridges would both be on seperate heights but that would mean having to make a 'top' entrance into the yard area and no idea if it would work.

o_scorpio · 01-20-2005, 11:49 PM

rock2 on ETF which is called Rock, is a very well balanced map, if a map maker takes ideas off of that map, it could very well become suitable for league play.

o_spud · 01-21-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DamagE

I would prefer to see 2 bridges in the center of the map in a X shape, like the map name suggest crossover. The bridges would both be on seperate heights but that would mean having to make a 'top' entrance into the yard area and no idea if it would work.

Nice idea.

o_groovyf · 01-21-2005, 09:04 AM

Could do a curve over and a curve under (sort of like monkey_l bridge)

o_steve · 01-21-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DamagE

I would prefer to see 2 bridges in the center of the map in a X shape, like the map name suggest crossover. The bridges would both be on seperate heights but that would mean having to make a 'top' entrance into the yard area and no idea if it would work.

I don't like that at all. Crossover is fine the way it is. Except if they take out teleports. Then it won't be as fun without having sg parties on the roof. (Snipers can come too).

Flagrun is probaly my favourite map. But i fail to see how it'll be as much fun without teleports! They were a vital part of team movement!

o_ekim · 01-21-2005, 02:40 PM

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During my first game on rock2 one of my team fell down the pit in the mine shaft with the key, carrying it back to our base. He was subsequently heavily flamed, which was lucky for me as I surely would have done the same thing on my first go

Why was he taking the key back to your base?

o_natch{t} · 01-21-2005, 04:35 PM

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on publics there is NO map that is as fun to cap on as rock2. Dont you remember the buzz of running to the gc?

I certainly do....scraping round each corner with yet more damage...then ya get to the last...heart racing like the clappers...blindly ignoring comms due to wild panic!

Finally into the gc and hit the lever...then look out the window and watch the rest of your teams offy arrive

o_billdoor · 01-21-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rmx

make rejected maps like these playable for leagues... also badlands (maybe) and bloodtube, and flagrun!

bloodtube is league playable at the moment, I've had some ace games on it :P

o_spud · 01-21-2005, 05:01 PM

I really miss that rush you got running with the key on rock2. I don't think i'll ever have that again..

Rock2 used to be played a massive amount before as well.

o_rebo · 01-21-2005, 05:35 PM

If we do a rock2 remake we will be making the gas effect a whole lot more vicious

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o_spud · 01-21-2005, 05:46 PM

Aarg memory spurt. The old scramble for a suit only to have someone waltz in from the side to nick it just before you and then turn to laugh at you as you choke on the evil green stuff.

My gosh I had forgotten what an excellent map it really was.

Jiggles · 01-21-2005, 07:11 PM

I think if Rock2 had at least 2 entrances to the Warden's Office, it would be playable. I remember using the "thin door" trick on pubs more than once to "cap" the key.

Maybe instead of the tunnel coming up into the yard, it would come directly into the office...

Or, make an entrance to the Office from the battlements...

01-20-2005, 04:09 PM	#1
o_rmx Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	rock2 and other "rejected maps" make rejected maps like these playable for leagues... also badlands (maybe) and bloodtube, and flagrun!

01-20-2005, 04:20 PM	#2
o_morgz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	rock2 stopped being played due to it actually being similiar to "the rock" and thus impossible to cap on. there was a map rock2_rc or something which changed this problem a little by making a few minor map changes but, more importantly, adding points bonuses for the movement of the key (2 points for any sort of touch, 2 more points for reachin yard.... etc). badlands was a little rubbish from my memory. Next thing u will be doing is asking for the recall of bam :S

01-20-2005, 04:32 PM	#3
o_ohcanep Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Improved versions of rock2 and badlands would be great.. but don't forget crossover2 either. :P

01-20-2005, 06:43 PM	#5
o_ekim Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bristol UK Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Or rebo as demoman piping the T

01-20-2005, 09:13 PM	#6
o_anshinritsumai Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I would love to see a remake of; rock2 badlands avanti dustbowl 2fort crossover2 and my personal favorite: flagrun

01-20-2005, 09:39 PM	#7
o_storm Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SCOTLAND (above England) Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	on publics there is NO map that is as fun to cap on as rock2. Dont you remember the buzz of running to the gc?

01-20-2005, 09:49 PM	#8
o_frontovik Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Someone mentioned in another thread that the crossover2 bridge is too short, so offence players tend to DM each other on the way across. Perhaps the bridge could be elongated to remove this tactic, and bring the map back to match play? I would like to see crossover return, it being my favourite map. During my first game on rock2 one of my team fell down the pit in the mine shaft with the key, carrying it back to our base. He was subsequently heavily flamed, which was lucky for me as I surely would have done the same thing on my first go

01-20-2005, 11:29 PM	#9
o_damage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I would prefer to see 2 bridges in the center of the map in a X shape, like the map name suggest crossover. The bridges would both be on seperate heights but that would mean having to make a 'top' entrance into the yard area and no idea if it would work.

01-20-2005, 11:49 PM	#10
o_scorpio Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	rock2 on ETF which is called Rock, is a very well balanced map, if a map maker takes ideas off of that map, it could very well become suitable for league play.

01-21-2005, 09:04 AM	#12
o_groovyf Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Halifax, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Could do a curve over and a curve under (sort of like monkey_l bridge)

01-21-2005, 05:01 PM	#17
o_spud Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I really miss that rush you got running with the key on rock2. I don't think i'll ever have that again.. Rock2 used to be played a massive amount before as well.

01-21-2005, 05:35 PM	#18
o_rebo Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	If we do a rock2 remake we will be making the gas effect a whole lot more vicious )

01-21-2005, 05:46 PM	#19
o_spud Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Aarg memory spurt. The old scramble for a suit only to have someone waltz in from the side to nick it just before you and then turn to laugh at you as you choke on the evil green stuff. My gosh I had forgotten what an excellent map it really was.

01-21-2005, 07:11 PM	#20
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think if Rock2 had at least 2 entrances to the Warden's Office, it would be playable. I remember using the "thin door" trick on pubs more than once to "cap" the key. Maybe instead of the tunnel coming up into the yard, it would come directly into the office... Or, make an entrance to the Office from the battlements...

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