Custom map Clone hell?

o_zaskar · 06-13-2006, 10:50 PM

Whats your guys oppinions on this?

When a game is sort of remade like FF is and for instance HL was there is gonna be many people wanting to "bring back the classics"

Problem is, like seen in HL2 DM, it usually fractures the old custom maps :P

Like the 10 different Gassworks and Killbox recreation maps seen for HL2 DM :P

So, diversity is good, or fracturing is bad? :P

o_karnage · 06-13-2006, 10:52 PM

toungues are bad. :P

o_imbrifer · 06-13-2006, 11:12 PM

Good point, this is something to watch out for.

I think that if they want, the DEV team should release packs of 'community maps' which include the remakes they think are the best. That way everyone has the same version of something and you minimize custom map hell (which will always exist as long as people can make custom maps).

Also, I feel if people release a quality version early (a la badlands, 2morforever, epicenter, etc) that 3 versions of that map won't come out, or at least not for a while.

o_zaskar · 06-13-2006, 11:22 PM

Yea thats usually the problem, a sub par one comes out first, then they get "better" as they go (better is sometimes just better in the creators eyes though :P)

So doin the packs idea is good but hard, because if someone who makes maps sees a recreation in a map pack that he thinks he can do much better, the fact that its in the map pack wont stop him.

And then what, everyone is stuck playin the "lesser" version cause it made the map pack first? :/

o_nezumi · 06-13-2006, 11:49 PM

The devs have said that they might include quality community maps in official releases, which makes the mpas official. Everyone would have the official version when they updated. Of course, potentially, the new better version could become the official version and would overwrite the old one when a new FF update is installed.

So, uh, making community maps official is good

o_imbrifer · 06-14-2006, 12:21 AM

Well, the nice thing about source mapping (especially with the new curvy detailed FF) is that making a quality map is tough and it takes a while. So hopefully the bajillion remakes will be avoided

o_geokill-----> · 06-14-2006, 01:45 AM

Well the other problem in HL2(since it's a great tool for creating beautiful maps) is that two different people do make a copy of a map and they are both good. Each one has a different theme but both are so great that it's hard to choose which one to play. So then what?

o_zaskar · 06-14-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoKill----->

Well the other problem in HL2(since it's a great tool for creating beautiful maps) is that two different people do make a copy of a map and they are both good. Each one has a different theme but both are so great that it's hard to choose which one to play. So then what?

Dont know, thats a problem :/

o_dr zoidberg · 06-14-2006, 12:12 PM

Thumbwars will settle that deal

06-13-2006, 10:50 PM	#1
o_zaskar Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NY Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Custom map Clone hell? Whats your guys oppinions on this? When a game is sort of remade like FF is and for instance HL was there is gonna be many people wanting to "bring back the classics" Problem is, like seen in HL2 DM, it usually fractures the old custom maps :P Like the 10 different Gassworks and Killbox recreation maps seen for HL2 DM :P So, diversity is good, or fracturing is bad? :P

06-13-2006, 10:52 PM	#2
o_karnage Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	toungues are bad. :P

06-13-2006, 11:12 PM	#3
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Good point, this is something to watch out for. I think that if they want, the DEV team should release packs of 'community maps' which include the remakes they think are the best. That way everyone has the same version of something and you minimize custom map hell (which will always exist as long as people can make custom maps). Also, I feel if people release a quality version early (a la badlands, 2morforever, epicenter, etc) that 3 versions of that map won't come out, or at least not for a while.

06-13-2006, 11:22 PM	#4
o_zaskar Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NY Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yea thats usually the problem, a sub par one comes out first, then they get "better" as they go (better is sometimes just better in the creators eyes though :P) So doin the packs idea is good but hard, because if someone who makes maps sees a recreation in a map pack that he thinks he can do much better, the fact that its in the map pack wont stop him. And then what, everyone is stuck playin the "lesser" version cause it made the map pack first? :/

06-13-2006, 11:49 PM	#5
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The devs have said that they might include quality community maps in official releases, which makes the mpas official. Everyone would have the official version when they updated. Of course, potentially, the new better version could become the official version and would overwrite the old one when a new FF update is installed. So, uh, making community maps official is good

06-14-2006, 12:21 AM	#6
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well, the nice thing about source mapping (especially with the new curvy detailed FF) is that making a quality map is tough and it takes a while. So hopefully the bajillion remakes will be avoided

06-14-2006, 01:45 AM	#7
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Well the other problem in HL2(since it's a great tool for creating beautiful maps) is that two different people do make a copy of a map and they are both good. Each one has a different theme but both are so great that it's hard to choose which one to play. So then what?

06-14-2006, 12:12 PM	#9
o_dr zoidberg Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Thumbwars will settle that deal

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