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Old 12-09-2010, 04:11 PM   #41
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Old 12-09-2010, 05:08 PM   #42
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Old 12-09-2010, 05:11 PM   #43
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Old 12-09-2010, 05:38 PM   #44
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I love Iggy's method of escaping unfair stereotypes and misconceptions attributed to his nationality.
  1. Realize the misconceptions and stereotypes are unfair and usually untrue.
  2. Realize that nationality is arbitrary anyway, so it's foolish to judge from.
  3. Somehow think you are exempt by wishing yourself not of your nationality.
  4. Unfairly judge people on their nationality, despite admitting it's arbitrary.
  5. Unfairly apply misconceptions and stereotypes to the judged, despite the same.

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Old 12-10-2010, 02:21 AM   #45
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You really DO need a funny bone, you know that, right?
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Old 12-10-2010, 02:43 AM   #46
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You gonna give it to him?
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Old 12-10-2010, 03:42 AM   #47
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Read what I typed to BinaryLife above.



Actually, the only counter-argument you've made to mine is that I gave you an unreliable media source to back up my claim, and then you continued to support your unprovable claim that they never offered a 'bonafide offer of collaboration'. I then offered up a more reliable source, and now I'm missing the point.

I know, Innoc, you're a victim and a very busy person.



Again, you're repeating a bold-faced lie, for which you have produced not a single shred of evidence to support, while on the contrary, I have.

Since this is apparently a very hard concept to swallow, let's try it again.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/0...uest-for-help/

If the Pentagon in the past refused to collaborate with WikiLeaks, then clearly an offer was struck in secret. Despite popular belief, not everyone wishes to make everything they do public, especially when you're the head of an organization that exposes secrets, and blood thirsty Statists want you assassinated.



He's publicly said that his ideas on Government closely mimic market (American) libertarianism. I'm not a minarchist, nor am I founding father nuthugger, but I think it goes without saying that someone demanding transparency is someone who has his head in the right place. Giving Government a complete, unquestioned monopoly on law, force, and information is the ultimate legitimization of the power of Big Government, moreso than raising taxes and forcing us to fill out census forms



More baseless conjecture. You still have not supported this argument with a shred of proof. Come back when you can.
So, you don't understand what I posted and you're continuing with insults in lieu of reasonable discussion got it.

edit: If you're going to accuse me of being off-base at least get it right. You're asking me to prove a negative. I said that Wikileaks never offered to collaborate.

...and you say prove it.

I can prove a negative? The absence of something? Reallly? I did demonstrate that your first link had no input/feedback/commentary from Wikileaks to support the position of the author of the article. This is despite you offering that link up as proof to support your position that Wikileaks offered to collaborate.

You continue to go off on a point I wasn't making and you ignore the need to support your claim.

I think we are wasting each others time. You are not convincing. But keep telling yourself that. Binarylife was absolutely right.
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Old 12-10-2010, 04:12 AM   #48
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You gonna give it to him?
My bone isn't funny..... well, at least my fiance' doesn't laugh at it....
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:23 AM   #49
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Old 12-10-2010, 05:33 PM   #50
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Hi,

Checked to see if FF was updated since people on steam have been playing it lately.

So, if we started searching every foreign official and ambassador coming into the country and publishing whatever documents they had on their person, there would be a coup d'Kat of progressive socialist rioting in the streets.

Mr. ASSange does it to every diplomat that has ever communicated to the USA and he's a hero. At least to some. There is quite the cyber battle raging out there between people who support what wikileaks does and those who do not. At any rate governments will react like they did in 911 and steal away more of our own privacy and enact laws to further curtail freedom of speech. Even the peace loving neutral Swiss are pissed at Assange. What do they put in the water down there in Australia?

I don't think it's such a bad thing BTW. All it does is confirm what everyone expects. And while severely embarrasing to the USA and the confidence other national leaders have in us, did anyone really think China was going to keep supporting a fucking lunatic?

But what it really is.... bad for US. us little people. For example, in the USA they will enact new laws that make leaking precious government info a criminal offense. It will make publishing that info a criminal offense. It will make copying that info a criminal offense and they will make it so less people have access to information making everything less transparent. Then as if that is not enough we, the people, will re-elect then. Then re-elect them again. Even if they lose we'll elect one of them leader of the losing party. (can't help a reference to Nancy - she's so cute in a hideous troll kind of way.)

As for the dude who leaked the info... he's "apparently" in the military. Bad move Holmes. No civilian court for yo ass. I'll send you Obama's childrens book to keep you company.
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:51 PM   #51
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So, you don't understand what I posted and you're continuing with insults in lieu of reasonable discussion got it.

edit: If you're going to accuse me of being off-base at least get it right. You're asking me to prove a negative. I said that Wikileaks never offered to collaborate.

...and you say prove it.

I can prove a negative? The absence of something? Reallly?
God, you're so dense. I've already proven that WikiLeaks have offered to collaborate with the Government to desensitize sensitive leaks. They denied. What more do you need to prove that WikiLeaks gave a 'bonafide offer of collaboration'. I've proved they have, you haven't disproven my claim, or backed your own up with a shred of evidence. Suck it up and stop crying, you made something up based on nothing more than your own cognitive bias and you're now trying your hardest to deflect your own intellectual slothiness back onto me. I've backed up my arguments with sources and cogent arguments, you have done neither, all while projecting your own intellectual insecurities onto me (as per usual). Again, suck it up, and stop crying--if you make an argument, you have to justify it. Either with sources, or empiricism, and so far, you've done neither. Which is why you're making up conspiracy theories that I'm somehow debating you on a point you never made, because your brain is desperately seeking to get out of this hole you dug for yourself, but there's no logical way you can get out of it, because your entire argument is nothing more than an epistemological black-hole.

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I did demonstrate that your first link had no input/feedback/commentary from Wikileaks to support the position of the author of the article.
I already addressed this point. WikiLeaks' attorney contacted the Pentagon trying to see if they'd assist WikiLeaks in trying to censor the sensitive material. What more do you fuckin' need? Does WikiLeaks need to come out with a public press release and have extensive public commentary to make it valid? No, they don't. There's no need for it. At this point, you're just demanding that they do it so you can sit back on your flawed argument from which you have no supporting facts and is purely conjecture. If you would read the links I've been posting, you'd see it's clear that WikiLeaks offered to collaborate, and while the offer wasn't public, it was still perfectly valid.

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You continue to go off on a point I wasn't making and you ignore the need to support your claim.
I know, Innoc, you're a victim. I feel for you.

(Also, please point to which argument of yours that you claim I'm 'going off of' that you claim I'm somehow making up.

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I think we are wasting each others time. You are not convincing. But keep telling yourself that. Binarylife was absolutely right.
Troll 'ya later.
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:41 PM   #52
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Wiki leaks has been up and down lately but it's stable again because mirrors have been popping up.

I don't know which is scarier, having your email read by government police or having your internal flame war posted on wiki leaks for billions of people to read.

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/

And remember... stay tuned:

http://openleaks.org/

An Assange-less site. Seems that rape allegations take away from the organization's purpose. Can't wait to see some hacked court papers from Sweden and London. All that court stuff is imaged. One within the leaks realm would just have to find some disconnected narcissist in each organization to dump some files onto a CD.
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:32 AM   #53
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There is probably already a government agency reading, or at least having a computer filter out questionable, e-mails, postings, etc.... from all over the internet.

Remember the Patriot Act?
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lol, seriously? You didn't know the Government already reads your email? Most people don't know about it, but the Government strong-armed ISP's to filter through logs of internet activity and filter through keywords (Like bomb, for instance) and they assess the threat and inform the Government. There's literally hundreds of companies that are contracted by the US Gov't and the DHS to filter through internet logs. They don't actually go into your email, like you'd think they would, they just go through your logs, because they can, due to the nature of regulations that dictate how information is transmitted through infrastructure.

Washington Post did a huge thing about the security state since 9/11.
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lol, seriously? You didn't know the Government already reads your email? Most people don't know about it, but the Government strong-armed ISP's to filter through logs of internet activity and filter through keywords (Like bomb, for instance) and they assess the threat and inform the Government. There's literally hundreds of companies that are contracted by the US Gov't and the DHS to filter through internet logs. They don't actually go into your email, like you'd think they would, they just go through your logs, because they can, due to the nature of regulations that dictate how information is transmitted through infrastructure.

Washington Post did a huge thing about the security state since 9/11.
Ok... given all the "top secret" stuff going on in the government(some of which Wikileaks is letting out), do you seriously think that the content of e-mails aren't being scanned? I'll grant you, I doubt there is someone sitting somewhere reading each and every e-mail sent every day, but I figure it's like you describe; keywords are looked for, and if one is spotted, the content is flagged for further evaluation(probably by another, more complex algorithm), and anything deemed by the software to raise enough flags get's sent to an agent.
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New game:
Send an e-mail containing ONLY the following words
"Dirty bomb, Al-Qaeda, horseporn, jihad, child porn". Then make some new friends who work for the government.

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Every day new leaks come out (Assange/WikiLeaks distributed the leaks so they would be released over time, and so far only a couple thousand have been 'released', we will continue to get new leaks for the next few weeks/months, just an FYI for anyone who is a victim of partisan media politicking) that expose secrets that should have been public information.

Such as the fact that BP had a virtually non-reported blowout at an international oil well, just a year and a half before Deepwater Horizon, or that powerful nations around the world had a 'bank bailout' planned 6 months before the near-financial collapse in 2008.
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Get this shit the fuck outta here...

Sick of these fucks thinking that these forums are 'the place to go' to write up any and all amounts of bullshit that they deem worthy of discussing.

This isn't CNN, this isn't CNBC - get your sorry fuckin ass's the fuck outta here.
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Don't read it if you don't like it. No one is forcing you to read these threads.
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