Source 2 hmmm

o_nuk3m · 02-10-2007, 08:11 AM

isnt valve releasing a source 2 or something i heard? if so will FF eventually be ported over to that or is it like automatic.

o_sta_sirtiger · 02-10-2007, 08:23 AM

Uh, never heard of such thing. Cite your evidence.

o_tyrus · 02-10-2007, 08:31 AM

screenshots or it didn't happen.

o_darkcrystal · 02-10-2007, 10:19 AM

the source engine is an ongoing project. with every new release, they usually include some new features added to the engine (HDR, dod:s effects, etc).

o_jaywolfx · 02-10-2007, 03:57 PM

agreed, it is an ever evolving engine. When i go back and look at the early screenshots of CSS , and compare to the visuals now, theres alot that has improved. I think it will continue to evolve and fit the needs of games as they arise.

But imma no0b here so what do i know ... lol

peace love and chicken grease

Defrag · 02-10-2007, 04:10 PM

I don't think the engine has improved significantly since it was released (aesthetically) other than HDR, phong and a few other things. The main reason CS:S got much better looking was that they put more resources into it using Turtle Rock as a contractor. It's only natural that the more you work with an engine, the more you can squeeze out of it and the better the maps will look. Those Turtle Rock guys are really talented, and the maps that valve worked on later on were also better quality than the originals (I believe Cliffe made a return to mapping for the assault remake which looks excellent). Also, when you release maps many months after the original game shipped, you can afford to add more detail as the average player's PCs will generally get a bit faster.

Anyway, the biggest overhaul will be the coming updates. It looks like they're going to add shadow mapping, self shadowing etc. which is long overdue. Shadowing is the major weakness of source -- planar shadows are archaic.

o_nuk3m · 02-10-2007, 09:00 PM

it was in game informer article with gabe newell, unfortunatly it is a friends GI and this was jans issue, and he said with the upcoming release of source2 blah blah blah.

source 2 is supposed to be EP2 Portal TF2 all that crap

o_vertical · 02-10-2007, 10:05 PM

I can actually say I've heard of a source 2... per the fact that I wasn't paying that much attention, I can't remember where it was written, or what it was about. But I figured I would throw in that I have also heard about such a thing

o_psycnet · 02-11-2007, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Defrag

Anyway, the biggest overhaul will be the coming updates. It looks like they're going to add shadow mapping, self shadowing etc. which is long overdue. Shadowing is the major weakness of source -- planar shadows are archaic.

Always has been my biggest peeve with the Source engine. I still find it shocking that planar shadows are still present to this day in the engine. Thank god someone realized this should be fixed :/

o_paranoidkirb · 02-12-2007, 04:05 AM

Wasn't all that stuff supposed to appear with HL2: Ep2?

o_pixel · 02-12-2007, 04:18 AM

So is this like web 2.0?

o_vorm · 02-12-2007, 08:46 AM

I think also, one of the big things to be added to the Source engine is the ability to operate on multiple cores.

Lost · 02-12-2007, 02:19 PM

The biggest thing to be added to the Source engine is FF, fools!

o_vorm · 02-12-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost

The biggest thing to be added to the Source engine is FF, fools!

NOT YET IT ISN'T!!

RELEASE!

o_mclafflin · 02-12-2007, 05:47 PM

I personally think the next real update will be the release of HL2 when its Multithreaded. Here is a link: HL2 Multithreaded. Its looking good for the new dual/quad core processors out there.

o_luminous · 02-15-2007, 01:13 AM

according to CS:S, the current one is Source Engine 7 (build 2992)

o_nuk3m · 02-15-2007, 04:57 AM

thats build 7 of source, what i am refering to is source2

like unreal engine, and unreal3 or w/e

o_kam · 02-15-2007, 05:23 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_...table_upgrades

o_nezumi · 02-15-2007, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by that article

Dynamic shadows in a map always react dynamically to every light source. (unconfirmed)

Oh please god yes.

o_nodnarb · 02-15-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuk3m

thats build 7 of source, what i am refering to is source2

like unreal engine, and unreal3 or w/e

no it is build 2992

02-10-2007, 08:11 AM	#1
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Source 2 hmmm isnt valve releasing a source 2 or something i heard? if so will FF eventually be ported over to that or is it like automatic.

02-10-2007, 04:10 PM	#6
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't think the engine has improved significantly since it was released (aesthetically) other than HDR, phong and a few other things. The main reason CS:S got much better looking was that they put more resources into it using Turtle Rock as a contractor. It's only natural that the more you work with an engine, the more you can squeeze out of it and the better the maps will look. Those Turtle Rock guys are really talented, and the maps that valve worked on later on were also better quality than the originals (I believe Cliffe made a return to mapping for the assault remake which looks excellent). Also, when you release maps many months after the original game shipped, you can afford to add more detail as the average player's PCs will generally get a bit faster. Anyway, the biggest overhaul will be the coming updates. It looks like they're going to add shadow mapping, self shadowing etc. which is long overdue. Shadowing is the major weakness of source -- planar shadows are archaic. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot. Last edited by Defrag; 02-10-2007 at 08:22 PM.

02-12-2007, 02:19 PM	#13
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	The biggest thing to be added to the Source engine is FF, fools! __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

02-12-2007, 05:47 PM	#15
o_mclafflin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PA, USA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Multithreaded I personally think the next real update will be the release of HL2 when its Multithreaded. Here is a link: HL2 Multithreaded. Its looking good for the new dual/quad core processors out there.

02-10-2007, 08:23 AM	#2
o_sta_sirtiger Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas, THE USA!!! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Uh, never heard of such thing. Cite your evidence.

02-10-2007, 08:31 AM	#3
o_tyrus Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	screenshots or it didn't happen.

02-10-2007, 10:19 AM	#4
o_darkcrystal Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the source engine is an ongoing project. with every new release, they usually include some new features added to the engine (HDR, dod:s effects, etc).

02-10-2007, 03:57 PM	#5
o_jaywolfx Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in the shaddows of the dark souls Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	agreed, it is an ever evolving engine. When i go back and look at the early screenshots of CSS , and compare to the visuals now, theres alot that has improved. I think it will continue to evolve and fit the needs of games as they arise. But imma no0b here so what do i know ... lol peace love and chicken grease

02-10-2007, 09:00 PM	#7
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	it was in game informer article with gabe newell, unfortunatly it is a friends GI and this was jans issue, and he said with the upcoming release of source2 blah blah blah. source 2 is supposed to be EP2 Portal TF2 all that crap

02-10-2007, 10:05 PM	#8
o_vertical Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA, KY Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I can actually say I've heard of a source 2... per the fact that I wasn't paying that much attention, I can't remember where it was written, or what it was about. But I figured I would throw in that I have also heard about such a thing

02-12-2007, 04:05 AM	#10
o_paranoidkirb Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wasn't all that stuff supposed to appear with HL2: Ep2?

02-12-2007, 04:18 AM	#11
o_pixel Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	So is this like web 2.0?

02-12-2007, 08:46 AM	#12
o_vorm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: E. Yorks - UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think also, one of the big things to be added to the Source engine is the ability to operate on multiple cores.

02-15-2007, 01:13 AM	#16
o_luminous Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	according to CS:S, the current one is Source Engine 7 (build 2992)

02-15-2007, 04:57 AM	#17
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	thats build 7 of source, what i am refering to is source2 like unreal engine, and unreal3 or w/e

02-15-2007, 05:23 AM	#18
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_...table_upgrades

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