Update: Soldier, GL/PL, Hunted, Live Interview Abound - Page 2

o_saintrancid-tpf- · 10-05-2005, 02:06 PM

finally bruce willis will be in soomething good

o_jinx · 10-05-2005, 02:15 PM

the new media looks great!

Will there be a chat transcript up soon?

Just noticed the shoulder pads on the soldier.. how the one on his right (our left) is designed to help support the rocket launcher

o_puppychow · 10-05-2005, 02:19 PM

AWESOMEO-5000

only comment: i like the older look of the solly. lips could use some work....great job!!

o_angsta · 10-05-2005, 02:23 PM

IMO the gl/pl is too small... other than the size; cool

The Soldier model is looking pretty good, I think he needs a little bit of something, but can't really tell what it is.

The Hunted is looking ok atm, although I don't like the buildings in the Yard-pic..

Keep it coming

o_sensai · 10-05-2005, 03:00 PM

i think its the facial expression of the soldier that gets me. it looks so droopy, he looks like he wants to cry or something, or shoot his rl point blank into the nearest wall.

Circuitous · 10-05-2005, 03:00 PM

Hmmm. Soldier looks old and his beret seems really really tight. Other than that, excellent.

GL/PL does seem a bit stubby, but the skin looks great. The hands are nice and just generic enough to work, but will they be team-colored at all?

Hunted's coming along nicely, although the hall at the end of the alley is bizarrely shaped (looks like a Super Mario mushroom)*, hopefully it's still wide enough to move around in, and by the looks of it yon Trepids didn't make the ramped edge that goes all the way across the yard come all the way around to the other side of the ramp exiting the bodyguard spawn at the corner, which is a major spot for Snipers trying to take potshots at the Hunted as he's exiting the ramp. A road's cutting through it now. (Hint: maybe an overpass?) Also, back to the alley, I notice there's no "fire escape" up to the top of the ruins? Used to be able to MIRV-jump an HWGuy up there and wreck up the Snipers a bit to let the Civvie through the ruins. Now it's just a bridge over the alley. I quite like the bridge idea, it gives Snipers a quick way to the ruins and also a new perch to fire from, but I miss the fire escape... Again with the alley, by the looks of it the ridges poking out of the sides of the brick building are gonna wreck up the Civvie's ability to dodge fire in an already small space, and that rubble looks like it won't be helpful either, although presumably it's clipped over.

Here's hoping it plays better than I expect.

o_shaggy · 10-05-2005, 03:02 PM

Wowzers!!! I'm more excited about this update over the last one. It's probably due to the fact you've finally modelled my fav class :P Ya I have to agree with yorin, the fist is a tad cartoonish, but everything else on him is an A+.
On the Hunted revised version of the front yard, you've removed the crates. I'm not sure if that's a good idea. The crates gave the snipers an extra place to hide, but more importantly, it gave coverage for the sewer hole, that is now just out in the open. Anyways, other then that, the hunted, is looking great.
Finally, the in game hands and grenade launcher looks great. One question though, will you be using the same grenade launcher for both types of pipes? If so, how will the transfer from one to another take place?

Anyways gj guys

Circuitous · 10-05-2005, 03:07 PM

^ They've said the yard's not finished. Crates will probably be added.

Also, it looks like the GL/PL will do the same switch as last time, by lowering that whatsit at the top with the currently-unskinned teeth.

trepid_jesse · 10-05-2005, 03:15 PM

I don't have time for a big reply, but uhh...

Going from the white building to the other ledge is of concern, but there's a thing or two left unseen in the picture.

We took the fire escape out in lieu of trying something new, and we'll see how that goes.

Edges/trimes/whatever in the alley will be adjusted/corrected at a later time. Right now, we just wanted to provide the means to get from the alley to the top of building one, as you could in the original.

That hallway down there may get redone in the end because it's old and just, yeah, who knows.

We're waiting on some custom props and what not to fill out the road in front of building one, and for all we know some of that out there may change in the future anyway.

Alrighty, I'ma go fail a Lin Alg test, who wants to come with me?

o_kam · 10-05-2005, 03:15 PM

[12:06 AM] <Cheffington|a> die hard: sd2 ramp
LOL

Jiggles · 10-05-2005, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebo

Also the soldier is normal mapped, the rest of the characters will also be normal mapped.

Glad to see you changed your mind; it will make the models look 10x better

The Bruce Willis look for the Soldier is excellent.
I'm not sure why people are saying his hands are oversized; he's wearing thick gloves, after all.

o_sensai · 10-05-2005, 03:21 PM

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8919/contrast4sv.jpg

So why the change in PL/GL models?

o_rp · 10-05-2005, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I'm not sure why people are saying his hands are oversized; he's wearing thick gloves, after all.

Well, he should switch to nomex then :P

o_vampiricus · 10-05-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriedBunny

Firstly, the boys over at GameSurge Radio (#gamesurgeradio, guess which network) will be interviewing our own Kelly 'Dospac' Dickinson this coming Wednesday (October 5th) at 7PM PST (10PM EST, 2AM GMT). Head on over to their IRC channel and quite possibly ask some questions of Kellypac while he's on the air!

I look forward to this! I would also like to be on #fortressforever but the +r is not allowing me to, please change this thank you

o_ivaqual · 10-05-2005, 03:27 PM

about the change for the g/p launcher : i'm guessing it's because of how the models hold the weapons. maybe the handle clipped with the shoulder or something, and also the long barrell also tended to clip too much with walls, etc..

just a guess though, it's a shame though because i like the old version better

Jiggles · 10-05-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VampiricuS

I look forward to this! I would also like to be on #fortressforever but the +r is not allowing me to, please change this thank you

They're not going to; you need register with Authserv, like so:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinx

have you tried registering?

http://www.gamesurge.net/createaccount/

and this gives you the info on authing etc.:
http://www.gamesurge.net/newuser/

And about the PL: My guess is that the 1st person model was modified to look and feel better. The PL was probably too long, and the stock was not visible in 1st person view, so why include it?

o_g4m3r · 10-05-2005, 03:39 PM

it's AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just wonder...When will this mod be released? 5 points!

o_darknight · 10-05-2005, 04:40 PM

I have to say the soldier model looks amazing! And to those that are against the 'Bruce Willis' look, I imagine that a good deal of his face is going to be hidden behind the solly war paint. I don't really get how his fists look oversized - tough guys like him have big fists, they help him in handling his massive cylinder shaped weapon.

I like the GL/PL and Hunted is making seemingly good progress.

o_silent · 10-05-2005, 04:54 PM

why didn't you send this media update to hl2 site like hlfallout and halflife2.net?

o_puppychow · 10-05-2005, 04:58 PM

they prolly did

not like it's instant...

10-05-2005, 03:00 PM	#26
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Hmmm. Soldier looks old and his beret seems really really tight. Other than that, excellent. GL/PL does seem a bit stubby, but the skin looks great. The hands are nice and just generic enough to work, but will they be team-colored at all? Hunted's coming along nicely, although the hall at the end of the alley is bizarrely shaped (looks like a Super Mario mushroom)*, hopefully it's still wide enough to move around in, and by the looks of it yon Trepids didn't make the ramped edge that goes all the way across the yard come all the way around to the other side of the ramp exiting the bodyguard spawn at the corner, which is a major spot for Snipers trying to take potshots at the Hunted as he's exiting the ramp. A road's cutting through it now. (Hint: maybe an overpass?) Also, back to the alley, I notice there's no "fire escape" up to the top of the ruins? Used to be able to MIRV-jump an HWGuy up there and wreck up the Snipers a bit to let the Civvie through the ruins. Now it's just a bridge over the alley. I quite like the bridge idea, it gives Snipers a quick way to the ruins and also a new perch to fire from, but I miss the fire escape... Again with the alley, by the looks of it the ridges poking out of the sides of the brick building are gonna wreck up the Civvie's ability to dodge fire in an already small space, and that rubble looks like it won't be helpful either, although presumably it's clipped over. Here's hoping it plays better than I expect. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-05-2005, 03:07 PM	#28
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	^ They've said the yard's not finished. Crates will probably be added. Also, it looks like the GL/PL will do the same switch as last time, by lowering that whatsit at the top with the currently-unskinned teeth. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

10-05-2005, 03:15 PM	#29
trepid_jesse Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't have time for a big reply, but uhh... Going from the white building to the other ledge is of concern, but there's a thing or two left unseen in the picture. We took the fire escape out in lieu of trying something new, and we'll see how that goes. Edges/trimes/whatever in the alley will be adjusted/corrected at a later time. Right now, we just wanted to provide the means to get from the alley to the top of building one, as you could in the original. That hallway down there may get redone in the end because it's old and just, yeah, who knows. We're waiting on some custom props and what not to fill out the road in front of building one, and for all we know some of that out there may change in the future anyway. Alrighty, I'ma go fail a Lin Alg test, who wants to come with me? __________________ Support FF: Trepid, what?

10-05-2005, 03:39 PM	#37
o_g4m3r Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Estonia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	WOW!!!!!!!!! it's AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just wonder...When will this mod be released? 5 points!

10-05-2005, 02:06 PM	#21
o_saintrancid-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	finally bruce willis will be in soomething good

10-05-2005, 02:15 PM	#22
o_jinx Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ohio Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the new media looks great! Will there be a chat transcript up soon? Just noticed the shoulder pads on the soldier.. how the one on his right (our left) is designed to help support the rocket launcher

10-05-2005, 02:19 PM	#23
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	AWESOMEO-5000 only comment: i like the older look of the solly. lips could use some work....great job!!

10-05-2005, 02:23 PM	#24
o_angsta Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	IMO the gl/pl is too small... other than the size; cool The Soldier model is looking pretty good, I think he needs a little bit of something, but can't really tell what it is. The Hunted is looking ok atm, although I don't like the buildings in the Yard-pic.. Keep it coming

10-05-2005, 03:00 PM	#25
o_sensai Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i think its the facial expression of the soldier that gets me. it looks so droopy, he looks like he wants to cry or something, or shoot his rl point blank into the nearest wall.

10-05-2005, 03:02 PM	#27
o_shaggy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wowzers!!! I'm more excited about this update over the last one. It's probably due to the fact you've finally modelled my fav class :P Ya I have to agree with yorin, the fist is a tad cartoonish, but everything else on him is an A+. On the Hunted revised version of the front yard, you've removed the crates. I'm not sure if that's a good idea. The crates gave the snipers an extra place to hide, but more importantly, it gave coverage for the sewer hole, that is now just out in the open. Anyways, other then that, the hunted, is looking great. Finally, the in game hands and grenade launcher looks great. One question though, will you be using the same grenade launcher for both types of pipes? If so, how will the transfer from one to another take place? Anyways gj guys

10-05-2005, 03:15 PM	#30
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	[12:06 AM] <Cheffington\|a> die hard: sd2 ramp LOL

10-05-2005, 03:21 PM	#32
o_sensai Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8919/contrast4sv.jpg So why the change in PL/GL models?

10-05-2005, 03:27 PM	#35
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	about the change for the g/p launcher : i'm guessing it's because of how the models hold the weapons. maybe the handle clipped with the shoulder or something, and also the long barrell also tended to clip too much with walls, etc.. just a guess though, it's a shame though because i like the old version better

10-05-2005, 04:40 PM	#38
o_darknight Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yorkshire Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I have to say the soldier model looks amazing! And to those that are against the 'Bruce Willis' look, I imagine that a good deal of his face is going to be hidden behind the solly war paint. I don't really get how his fists look oversized - tough guys like him have big fists, they help him in handling his massive cylinder shaped weapon. I like the GL/PL and Hunted is making seemingly good progress.

10-05-2005, 04:54 PM	#39
o_silent Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	why didn't you send this media update to hl2 site like hlfallout and halflife2.net?

10-05-2005, 04:58 PM	#40
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	they prolly did not like it's instant...

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