Share your Strategy

Bridget · 09-14-2009, 05:38 PM

I can't game right now because of some stupid fucking Vista errors with my display drivers. So, I am working on a huge beginner guide to Fortress Forever that will be released in PDF format, sometime and hopefully, in the future. Here's your chance to help me write it. Pick your favourite class, try to do as many classes as you want, or do them all. I need you to write tips on how to play these classes, what to avoid doing as these classes, how to effectively use their nades, and so on. Make it noob-friendly.

Caroline · 09-14-2009, 06:30 PM

Sniper guide is already made by Undesirable so I guess no one needs to do a new one

http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...t=sniper+guide

Bridget · 09-14-2009, 06:32 PM

It isn't about making guides. I need people to provide me with small suggestions for howto/hownotto play each class and utilise their weapons. I want multiple people to give their suggestions, regardless of whether or not someone else gave suggestions to the same class.

wakka · 09-14-2009, 06:35 PM

Everyone plays each class differently, I don't see this working and I don't see any noob actually reading it. Alot of it would speak for itself really, e.g

1. Grenades: when throwing grenades as medic make sure they are as close to the enemy as possible for maximum damage.

yeh?

Caroline · 09-14-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakka

Everyone plays each class differently, I don't see this working and I don't see any noob actually reading it. Alot of it would speak for itself really, e.g

1. Grenades: when throwing grenades as medic make sure they are as close to the enemy as possible for maximum damage.

yeh?

Haha. +1.

I just thought you could pick up something from that guide, but if it's not what you're looking for then fine. Nvm.

Mikael_hs · 09-14-2009, 07:20 PM

Once 2.4 comes out, I will make an avi that amounts to the same purpose. It will be supercool and render your pdf useless.

good luck though

Bridget · 09-14-2009, 07:21 PM

Nevermind, obviously not everyone is capable of understanding what I am asking for. I'll do it myself. Yeah no shit people play classes differently, but they use strategy that is general to the class. Also, reread what I said. How to use grenades effectively. Tur hur "Make sure da grenade iz close 2 da playur" no shit, I'm asking for you to provide more advanced usage of the grenade. EG you could say something stupid like "Throw da emp grenadz into da crowd 4 da damgz" or give me a more effective suggestion like "You could try tossing a few bags toward the enemy to increase the damage of the EMP."

But, nevermind.

**squeek.** · 09-14-2009, 07:43 PM

Here's a legitimate one.

Using the railgun as an engi:

Charge it when you don't see anyone. Overcharge if you don't see anyone the whole time you are charging and need cells (I don't usually overcharge and instead choose to shoot a blind bounce at a high-traffic location). Once you see someone, try to get a bounce shot on them (either using the floor right infront of them, the roof [hard shot to hit], or a wall). Immediately after shooting your railgun, switch to your shotgun and DM them. This way, you don't lose effectiveness if you miss your railgun because it is almost as if you were just shooting with your shotgun the whole time you saw them.

So, as a general rule, use your railgun as an opening shot, then switch to your shotgun. This doesn't have to be followed strictly (you can go for more than 1 railgun shot per person, or go for a railgun any time you feel like it [best if the O isn't going after you specifically]), but it is a good idea.

Oh, also, use a series of uncharged shots (or a charged bounce) for static targets at a long range (like someone building, setting a detpack, nailgunning a buildable [risky if it's your buildable], etc).

Another thing of note: A single-bounce shot kills a scout/engi/sniper in one hit. A double-bounce I believe will kill a medic.

Raynian · 09-15-2009, 11:25 AM

Engi:

When building a gun near spawn or a 200-cell ammo bag, drop three bags of your own while building. Restock, upgrade, then pick up the dropped bags and hit your gun again. You'll have a level 3 gun up in a very short time.

Credge · 09-15-2009, 01:56 PM

Playing forward defensive soldier:

The primary role of the forward defensive soldier is to give the rest of his defense incomings. A typical example of this would be to play at the entrance of the T on monkey, directly next to where a spawn bag is.

In this position, you can call the majority of speedy calls. You can see both the left and right side and can call ramp, water, or T if they get past you. Very few people take the full water route as it is a very, very long route and the rest of your defense can easily handle people coming from that direction due to how long it can take.

The secondary role of the forward defensive soldier is to damage and kill people that he sees. The shotgun is a popular opener. Also, firing a rocket or two in the direction the enemy will be heading can result favorably.

Typically speaking you'll have health and ammo in these positions as most maps where a position like this is viable will have a bag for you to use. Of course, you can play in this manner on all maps. On 2fort you could play right in front of the primary spawn (the one without the fall) and give your team incomings while damaging those who take the battlement route.

Something to note: Kills aren't that common, however, with some practice you can generally end up half way up your teams score board. Playing in this way can be taxing, especially when you don't know a map very well, however, even casual calling can be a huge help to your team. Damaging those you are able to call is an even bigger help!

In fact, simply saying "enemy incoming" can help your team prepare, although it's often best to give a direction.

Note: Try not to use directions like left and right as your left might not be the same as the left in the flag room. Instead, give areas of the map a name. Using monkey as an example, you have three possible ways the enemy can come: ramp, T, and water.

The ramp is called the ramp because it is a ramp. Although the water entrance has a ramp leading to it, it is called the water route because it is a distinct part of that entrance. T is called T because that is what the geometry looks like.

Further notes: A heavy can be substituted on some maps for a soldier, as well as a pyro, however the solly is generally the best class for it. Rarely do engineers play this role, but it can be useful in smaller games.

gibz · 09-15-2009, 03:55 PM

Since this is for beginners, I thought I might add some stuff.

Scout: Go for the flag. Don't bother with DMing unless you are seriously out of concs and can get a sentry around a corner or out of its range.

Medic: Toss your medpacks in key locations inside the enemy base, such as T's and ramps and the flag rooms.

teh_rape · 09-16-2009, 04:10 PM

For offense - Be unpredictable. i'm too tired right now to say much more. I might when I actually wake up.

rezz0r · 09-16-2009, 07:06 PM

I might have an idea how people could get Fortress Forever without paying anything for a Source game. This could help us find more players, but I'm still working on it.

EDIT: no 3rd program shit don't worry.

gibz · 09-17-2009, 12:16 PM

How to get a mod for free.
Sweet!

wakka · 11-01-2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael_hs

Once 2.4 comes out, I will make an avi that amounts to the same purpose. It will be supercool and render your pdf useless.

good luck though

MonoXideAtWork · 11-01-2009, 05:38 AM

As an engineer, if you have 200 cells and no sg or dispenser, build a dispenser first.

After you build a dispenser, you can touch it to be given enough cells to build a sg.

wakka · 11-01-2009, 01:28 PM

fuck off

GenghisTron · 11-01-2009, 05:04 PM

I've also found (This probably won't be the same for everyone) that the best crosshairs to use for virtually every weapon is the tiny 'x' shape. It allows for better conc aim, and in general better allows me to position any type of projectile.

rezz0r · 11-08-2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibz

How to get a mod for free.
Sweet!

Apparently you do not get Source SDK Base with promotion games such as HalfLife2

eathmatch (with nvidia card)....

too bad. Haven't really tested it yet.

reaper18 · 11-11-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridget

I can't game right now because of some stupid fucking Vista errors with my display drivers. So, I am working on a huge beginner guide to Fortress Forever.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridget

It isn't about making guides.

09-14-2009, 05:38 PM	#1
Bridget Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: AVD Affiliations: TALOS Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Share your Strategy I can't game right now because of some stupid fucking Vista errors with my display drivers. So, I am working on a huge beginner guide to Fortress Forever that will be released in PDF format, sometime and hopefully, in the future. Here's your chance to help me write it. Pick your favourite class, try to do as many classes as you want, or do them all. I need you to write tips on how to play these classes, what to avoid doing as these classes, how to effectively use their nades, and so on. Make it noob-friendly.

09-14-2009, 07:20 PM	#6
Mikael_hs Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Affiliations: Wazzazzaza Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Once 2.4 comes out, I will make an avi that amounts to the same purpose. It will be supercool and render your pdf useless. good luck though Last edited by Mikael_hs; 09-14-2009 at 07:21 PM.

09-14-2009, 07:21 PM	#7
Bridget Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: AVD Affiliations: TALOS Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Nevermind, obviously not everyone is capable of understanding what I am asking for. I'll do it myself. Yeah no shit people play classes differently, but they use strategy that is general to the class. Also, reread what I said. How to use grenades effectively. Tur hur "Make sure da grenade iz close 2 da playur" no shit, I'm asking for you to provide more advanced usage of the grenade. EG you could say something stupid like "Throw da emp grenadz into da crowd 4 da damgz" or give me a more effective suggestion like "You could try tossing a few bags toward the enemy to increase the damage of the EMP." But, nevermind. Last edited by Bridget; 09-14-2009 at 07:24 PM.

09-14-2009, 07:43 PM	#8
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	Here's a legitimate one. Using the railgun as an engi: Charge it when you don't see anyone. Overcharge if you don't see anyone the whole time you are charging and need cells (I don't usually overcharge and instead choose to shoot a blind bounce at a high-traffic location). Once you see someone, try to get a bounce shot on them (either using the floor right infront of them, the roof [hard shot to hit], or a wall). Immediately after shooting your railgun, switch to your shotgun and DM them. This way, you don't lose effectiveness if you miss your railgun because it is almost as if you were just shooting with your shotgun the whole time you saw them. So, as a general rule, use your railgun as an opening shot, then switch to your shotgun. This doesn't have to be followed strictly (you can go for more than 1 railgun shot per person, or go for a railgun any time you feel like it [best if the O isn't going after you specifically]), but it is a good idea. Oh, also, use a series of uncharged shots (or a charged bounce) for static targets at a long range (like someone building, setting a detpack, nailgunning a buildable [risky if it's your buildable], etc). Another thing of note: A single-bounce shot kills a scout/engi/sniper in one hit. A double-bounce I believe will kill a medic. __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington Last edited by squeek.; 09-14-2009 at 08:07 PM.

09-15-2009, 01:56 PM	#10
Credge FF Loremaster Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	Playing forward defensive soldier: The primary role of the forward defensive soldier is to give the rest of his defense incomings. A typical example of this would be to play at the entrance of the T on monkey, directly next to where a spawn bag is. In this position, you can call the majority of speedy calls. You can see both the left and right side and can call ramp, water, or T if they get past you. Very few people take the full water route as it is a very, very long route and the rest of your defense can easily handle people coming from that direction due to how long it can take. The secondary role of the forward defensive soldier is to damage and kill people that he sees. The shotgun is a popular opener. Also, firing a rocket or two in the direction the enemy will be heading can result favorably. Typically speaking you'll have health and ammo in these positions as most maps where a position like this is viable will have a bag for you to use. Of course, you can play in this manner on all maps. On 2fort you could play right in front of the primary spawn (the one without the fall) and give your team incomings while damaging those who take the battlement route. Something to note: Kills aren't that common, however, with some practice you can generally end up half way up your teams score board. Playing in this way can be taxing, especially when you don't know a map very well, however, even casual calling can be a huge help to your team. Damaging those you are able to call is an even bigger help! In fact, simply saying "enemy incoming" can help your team prepare, although it's often best to give a direction. Note: Try not to use directions like left and right as your left might not be the same as the left in the flag room. Instead, give areas of the map a name. Using monkey as an example, you have three possible ways the enemy can come: ramp, T, and water. The ramp is called the ramp because it is a ramp. Although the water entrance has a ramp leading to it, it is called the water route because it is a distinct part of that entrance. T is called T because that is what the geometry looks like. Further notes: A heavy can be substituted on some maps for a soldier, as well as a pyro, however the solly is generally the best class for it. Rarely do engineers play this role, but it can be useful in smaller games. __________________ "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan Last edited by Credge; 09-15-2009 at 05:00 PM.

09-14-2009, 06:30 PM	#2
Caroline Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sniper guide is already made by Undesirable so I guess no one needs to do a new one http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...t=sniper+guide

09-14-2009, 06:32 PM	#3
Bridget Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: AVD Affiliations: TALOS Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	It isn't about making guides. I need people to provide me with small suggestions for howto/hownotto play each class and utilise their weapons. I want multiple people to give their suggestions, regardless of whether or not someone else gave suggestions to the same class.

09-14-2009, 06:35 PM	#4
wakka Join Date: Aug 2009 Class/Position: top Gametype: pwning caroline in bed Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Everyone plays each class differently, I don't see this working and I don't see any noob actually reading it. Alot of it would speak for itself really, e.g 1. Grenades: when throwing grenades as medic make sure they are as close to the enemy as possible for maximum damage. yeh?

09-15-2009, 11:25 AM	#9
Raynian D&A Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ruining #pickups Class/Position: SPAWN CAMPING OH NO Gametype: Ragequitting Affiliations: [PMS]. [Shiney] Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	Engi: When building a gun near spawn or a 200-cell ammo bag, drop three bags of your own while building. Restock, upgrade, then pick up the dropped bags and hit your gun again. You'll have a level 3 gun up in a very short time.

09-15-2009, 03:55 PM	#11
gibz Title title title title Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: VA Class/Position: Medic O, Soldier D Gametype: CTF, Water Battle Affiliations: :e0: and n-t Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Since this is for beginners, I thought I might add some stuff. Scout: Go for the flag. Don't bother with DMing unless you are seriously out of concs and can get a sentry around a corner or out of its range. Medic: Toss your medpacks in key locations inside the enemy base, such as T's and ramps and the flag rooms. __________________

09-16-2009, 04:10 PM	#12
teh_rape Supa-leet-cap-a-cop Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	For offense - Be unpredictable. i'm too tired right now to say much more. I might when I actually wake up. __________________ 9:48 PM - Orphic^vi: fuck bitches 1:03 AM - tm: no one remembers me 1:03 AM - tm: except tr the god 1:03 AM - tm: and by tr i mean teh_rape; tfc god

09-16-2009, 07:06 PM	#13
rezz0r a.k.a. legion_ Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Class/Position: O & D Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I might have an idea how people could get Fortress Forever without paying anything for a Source game. This could help us find more players, but I'm still working on it. EDIT: no 3rd program shit don't worry. Last edited by rezz0r; 09-16-2009 at 11:40 PM.

09-17-2009, 12:16 PM	#14
gibz Title title title title Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: VA Class/Position: Medic O, Soldier D Gametype: CTF, Water Battle Affiliations: :e0: and n-t Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How to get a mod for free. Sweet! __________________

11-01-2009, 05:38 AM	#16
MonoXideAtWork Pub Allstar! Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2008 Class/Position: under en kvinna Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: Eternal Order, Must be h4x, Mono's happy funtime. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	As an engineer, if you have 200 cells and no sg or dispenser, build a dispenser first. After you build a dispenser, you can touch it to be given enough cells to build a sg.

11-01-2009, 01:28 PM	#17
wakka Join Date: Aug 2009 Class/Position: top Gametype: pwning caroline in bed Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	fuck off

11-01-2009, 05:04 PM	#18
GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	I've also found (This probably won't be the same for everyone) that the best crosshairs to use for virtually every weapon is the tiny 'x' shape. It allows for better conc aim, and in general better allows me to position any type of projectile. __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

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