Source SDK 2013

trepid_jon · 06-26-2013, 11:53 PM

steam news post:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/10962/

code here:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013

Quote:

We have released an update to the Source SDK, bringing support for Mac OS X and Linux to mod developers and exposing the ability for virtual reality support in your mod. The biggest change with this update is that we are using github to host the source code. You will find the code here. This Source SDK 2013 release also includes a new license that can be found here. This new license allows mod authors to share their changes to the SDK more easily.

The other change with the Source SDK is that now Hammer and the other mod tools ship with their respective games instead of as part of the SDK Launcher. The launcher itself is being phased out, so it will disappear from your Tools list. You can find information about how to run the tools from the games here.

The source for this new SDK release includes the latest code for all the included games, and has many new features:
• The games now build and run clients on Windows, OSX, and Linux. Dedicated servers are supported on Windows and Linux.
• Steam Pipe (the new Steam content delivery system) is supported by the sample mods. Existing mods can change their gameinfo.txt to match the new format and gain Steam Pipe support.
• Support for Virtual Reality via the Oculus Rift has been added to the SDK. Running a compatible mod with -vr on the command line will run the mod in stereo and enable head tracking on the Rift.

You can find instructions on getting started with the new Source SDK 2013 on the Valve Developer Community wiki.

Just sayin

hlstriker · 06-26-2013, 11:59 PM

I just came to the forums to post the same link, beat me to it!

FINALLY!

EDIT:
I'm so excited!

**squeek.** · 06-27-2013, 12:01 AM

Same. I was wrong about not getting an SDK update! Hooray!

trepid_jon · 06-27-2013, 12:04 AM

I haven't fully browsed through it. Really not sure about all the differences.

All I know is that compared to the 2007 code, the directory structure is quite a bit different, so simple merging of code really won't be possible. This is closer to the 2009 code structure.

However, Mac and Linux support is awesome, as well as the VR stuff.

KubeDawg · 06-27-2013, 12:37 AM

w00t! awesome. Imagine playing FF virtual reality :O

trepid_jon · 06-27-2013, 01:24 AM

haha, source sdk base 2013 apps aren't released yet so you can't run mods for now

steam://install/243730 (singleplayer base app)
steam://install/243750 (multiplayer base app)

SuperDude · 04-28-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KubeDawg

w00t! awesome. Imagine playing FF virtual reality :O

I prefer card board cut out FF

GeoKill-----> · 06-27-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by trepid_jon

All I know is that compared to the 2007 code, the directory structure is quite a bit different, so simple merging of code really won't be possible. This is closer to the 2009 code structure.

This will take time to port the code over? Are there plans on doing this for the future?

I sure hope so

**Crazycarl** · 06-27-2013, 05:22 PM

Sweet. If I wasn't busy helping to create a person I might get back into modding. Propper might get an update at some point so that it supports more games.

WiFiDi · 06-27-2013, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by squeek.

Same. I was wrong about not getting an SDK update! Hooray!

role call to all the old devs to port FF to it nows

KubeDawg · 06-27-2013, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiFiDi

role call to all the old devs to port FF to it nows

**Dexter** · 06-27-2013, 01:45 AM

nm

yea this owns!!

**Dexter** · 06-27-2013, 01:53 AM

what is most amazing to me is valve is responding to emails and pull requests

trepid_jon · 06-27-2013, 01:56 AM

The base apps are released and ready to install now

steam://install/243730 (Source SDK Base 2013 Singleplayer)
steam://install/243750 (Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer)

trepid_jon · 06-27-2013, 02:16 AM

You have to run Hammer directly from the base app bin directory, no more using the SDK launcher.

Steam\steamapps\common\Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer\bin\hammer.exe

Probably the most awesome thing so far:

Extra decimal places in the texture scaling (left 4 dead hammer had this), so you can make higher res textures and properly texture the maps (1024x1024 texture on a 128 high wall, for example...giving 8 pixels per unit instead of the typical 4 in most source games/mods). Ooooohhhh, ahhhhhh

* basically, the old hammer that mods were allowed to use only had 2 decimal places, so for example, trying to scale a 1024 texture to 0.125 on a 128 length brush would just break and it wouldn't scale properly *

WiFiDi · 06-27-2013, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trepid_jon

Probably the most awesome thing so far:

Extra decimal places in the texture scaling (left 4 dead hammer had this), so you can make higher res textures and properly texture the maps (1024x1024 texture on a 128 high wall, for example...giving 8 pixels per unit instead of the typical 4 in most source games/mods). Ooooohhhh, ahhhhhh

06-26-2013, 11:59 PM	#2
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06-27-2013, 12:01 AM	#3
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06-27-2013, 12:04 AM	#4
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	I haven't fully browsed through it. Really not sure about all the differences. All I know is that compared to the 2007 code, the directory structure is quite a bit different, so simple merging of code really won't be possible. This is closer to the 2009 code structure. However, Mac and Linux support is awesome, as well as the VR stuff. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

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06-27-2013, 01:24 AM	#6
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	haha, source sdk base 2013 apps aren't released yet so you can't run mods for now steam://install/243730 (singleplayer base app) steam://install/243750 (multiplayer base app) __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

06-27-2013, 05:22 PM	#9
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Sweet. If I wasn't busy helping to create a person I might get back into modding. Propper might get an update at some point so that it supports more games. __________________ Support FF:

06-27-2013, 01:45 AM	#12
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	nm yea this owns!! __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals Last edited by Dexter; 06-27-2013 at 01:48 AM.

06-27-2013, 01:53 AM	#13
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	what is most amazing to me is valve is responding to emails and pull requests __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

06-27-2013, 01:56 AM	#14
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	The base apps are released and ready to install now steam://install/243730 (Source SDK Base 2013 Singleplayer) steam://install/243750 (Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer) __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/
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06-27-2013, 02:16 AM	#15
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	You have to run Hammer directly from the base app bin directory, no more using the SDK launcher. Steam\steamapps\common\Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer\bin\hammer.exe Probably the most awesome thing so far: Extra decimal places in the texture scaling (left 4 dead hammer had this), so you can make higher res textures and properly texture the maps (1024x1024 texture on a 128 high wall, for example...giving 8 pixels per unit instead of the typical 4 in most source games/mods). Ooooohhhh, ahhhhhh * basically, the old hammer that mods were allowed to use only had 2 decimal places, so for example, trying to scale a 1024 texture to 0.125 on a 128 length brush would just break and it wouldn't scale properly * __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/ Last edited by trepid_jon; 06-27-2013 at 02:23 AM.

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