FF Update: Objection, Your Honor! - Page 15

o_player · 06-26-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FooleyCooley

Wow that looks so much better.

/Sarcasm

It does, actually :P

o_riemukupl@ · 06-26-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Player

It does, actually :P

Yeah, it really does. Without the sights it would be perfect (I don't think they fit the bill too well). Not every model needs to be ultra-detailed and complex. It looks streamlined and powerful, all a good ssg needs. If it looks plain to you, go ahead and do something to it, but in my opinion, that something shouldn't be making it look like a thing out of CS.

o_geokill-----> · 06-26-2006, 09:17 PM

nice, another leak

Circuitous · 06-26-2006, 09:22 PM

Making the back half thicker, perhaps a parallelogram, would help make it a bit more interesting.

Hell, put a handle there, similar to the tfc_newmodels super shotgun.

o_alligator · 06-27-2006, 08:12 AM

FooleyCooley - you have 24 hours to leak 100 FF screenshots or your family gets it

o_darknight · 06-27-2006, 12:10 PM

What does the full screen version of the shotty with the stock on look like (Rather than the clipped screenshot)? Might make a difference to what we think of it.

Personally, I'd settle for either but the stocked version is nice.

o_nezumi · 06-27-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FooleyCooley

Wow that looks so much better.

It does. You guys are insane. Leave the damned stock off. Just like RiEmuKUpl@ said, it looks streamlined and powerful.

o_ivaqual · 06-27-2006, 02:39 PM

haha you would expect bb's to be shot from that

o_ghost · 06-27-2006, 02:55 PM

They can use a super soaker for all I care just pick something and go with it.

o_paft · 06-27-2006, 03:06 PM

No the team are right in adding the stock. Yes it would have been nice if it looked like the rendered image, but it just doesn't look correct in game.

I had my doubts about the stock at the beginning but it's grown on me a little more know.
Originally i though to my self since FF isn't a one shot kill game it feels over powered as though it could kill the enemy in one shot blowing body parts every where, but so would other weaponry so...

o_stricknine · 06-28-2006, 02:36 AM

I like it without the stock. They could just release FF with both stock/no stock models.

o_alligator · 06-28-2006, 03:05 AM

stock for the win

**mervaka** · 06-28-2006, 07:59 AM

looks sexy now, but try it with shells on top like absent suggested

o_paft · 06-28-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by StrickNine

I like it without the stock. They could just release FF with both stock/no stock models.

Or redo the shotgun completely. But the stocked version is fine.

o_fooleycooley · 06-28-2006, 12:13 PM

Stock stays.

Or we could redo the shotgun, but you'd have to wait +1 month for release.

What's it to be, gentlemen?

o_fooleycooley · 06-28-2006, 01:53 PM

Er...

1) If you take 5 seconds to read, the opinion on the stock isn't 100% unanimous. Some people other than YOU actually like it. I haven't got any disagreement over it from other members of the dev team either. In fact I suggested we try a totally new model awhile back, but was told "No, it's ok as-is".

2) Shells on it would just look stupid. "Oh, I'm out of ammo... But I have 6 shells attached to the side of my shotgun? Why can't I use them?". It'd be a total nightmare to either animate or program a system that could cope with that. Which is why every game that has it, doesn't, and just looks retarded. So no.

3) Insulting dev team members isn't exactly the best way to get them round to your way of thinking. Nor make them work faster.

o_thepanther · 06-28-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FooleyCooley

Er...

1) If you take 5 seconds to read, the opinion on the stock isn't 100% unanimous. Some people other than YOU actually like it. I haven't got any disagreement over it from other members of the dev team either. In fact I suggested we try a totally new model awhile back, but was told "No, it's ok as-is".

2) Shells on it would just look stupid. "Oh, I'm out of ammo... But I have 6 shells attached to the side of my shotgun? Why can't I use them?". It'd be a total nightmare to either animate or program a system that could cope with that. Which is why every game that has it, doesn't, and just looks retarded. So no.

3) Insulting dev team members isn't exactly the best way to get them round to your way of thinking. Nor make them work faster.

It looks fine. Everything looks good. People complain about anything. Just make the dam game and give me beta, see now I'm complaining.

o_nezumi · 06-28-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FooleyCooley

Stock stays.

Stock goes! Rawr!

I have nothing more meaningful to add.

P.S. Damn I wish we could have the 'so small it's unreadable' font size back.

o_paft · 06-28-2006, 02:40 PM

Just so that comment doesn't make me or any others looks like flamers, I've never said anything negative about the FF teams other work, Only I'm not to sure about the ssg. I obviously originally thought the renderd image was perfect but as FooleyCooley has shown us that it doesn't look the part ingame so the stock was needed.
It still looks fine with the stock.

End of the stock debate.

o_imbrifer · 06-28-2006, 02:43 PM

I really dig it without the stock. I don't want some hunky metal box on top of my shotgun, reducing the visible area on my HUD and looking foofy

06-26-2006, 09:22 PM	#284
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Making the back half thicker, perhaps a parallelogram, would help make it a bit more interesting. Hell, put a handle there, similar to the tfc_newmodels super shotgun. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

06-28-2006, 07:59 AM	#293
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	looks sexy now, but try it with shells on top like absent suggested __________________ Support FF:

06-28-2006, 02:40 PM	#299
o_paft Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Just so that comment doesn't make me or any others looks like flamers, I've never said anything negative about the FF teams other work, Only I'm not to sure about the ssg. I obviously originally thought the renderd image was perfect but as FooleyCooley has shown us that it doesn't look the part ingame so the stock was needed. It still looks fine with the stock. End of the stock debate. Last edited by o_paft; 06-28-2006 at 02:49 PM.

06-26-2006, 09:17 PM	#283
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	nice, another leak

06-27-2006, 08:12 AM	#285
o_alligator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	FooleyCooley - you have 24 hours to leak 100 FF screenshots or your family gets it

06-27-2006, 12:10 PM	#286
o_darknight Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yorkshire Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	What does the full screen version of the shotty with the stock on look like (Rather than the clipped screenshot)? Might make a difference to what we think of it. Personally, I'd settle for either but the stocked version is nice.

06-27-2006, 02:39 PM	#288
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	haha you would expect bb's to be shot from that

06-27-2006, 02:55 PM	#289
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	They can use a super soaker for all I care just pick something and go with it.

06-27-2006, 03:06 PM	#290
o_paft Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No the team are right in adding the stock. Yes it would have been nice if it looked like the rendered image, but it just doesn't look correct in game. I had my doubts about the stock at the beginning but it's grown on me a little more know. Originally i though to my self since FF isn't a one shot kill game it feels over powered as though it could kill the enemy in one shot blowing body parts every where, but so would other weaponry so...

06-28-2006, 02:36 AM	#291
o_stricknine Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I like it without the stock. They could just release FF with both stock/no stock models.

06-28-2006, 03:05 AM	#292
o_alligator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	stock for the win

06-28-2006, 12:13 PM	#295
o_fooleycooley Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Stock stays. Or we could redo the shotgun, but you'd have to wait +1 month for release. What's it to be, gentlemen?

06-28-2006, 01:53 PM	#296
o_fooleycooley Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Er... 1) If you take 5 seconds to read, the opinion on the stock isn't 100% unanimous. Some people other than YOU actually like it. I haven't got any disagreement over it from other members of the dev team either. In fact I suggested we try a totally new model awhile back, but was told "No, it's ok as-is". 2) Shells on it would just look stupid. "Oh, I'm out of ammo... But I have 6 shells attached to the side of my shotgun? Why can't I use them?". It'd be a total nightmare to either animate or program a system that could cope with that. Which is why every game that has it, doesn't, and just looks retarded. So no. 3) Insulting dev team members isn't exactly the best way to get them round to your way of thinking. Nor make them work faster.

06-28-2006, 02:43 PM	#300
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I really dig it without the stock. I don't want some hunky metal box on top of my shotgun, reducing the visible area on my HUD and looking foofy

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