Hi, real Newbie question :(

o_dunc · 02-24-2005, 02:34 PM

hey,

This might seem a bit amusing to some of you but i'm gonna press on regardless

Where on earth do i find the original standard maps used in tfc in a format i can explore in the hammer editor thingy? EG: i want to find 2fort.bsp on my pc as a single file... where is this? It's not in tfc/maps or anywhere in the entire tfc file structure as far as i can see... sorry for being so thick :/

thanks
Duncan

o_lethal01 · 02-24-2005, 03:15 PM

the .bsp are compiled maps, and thus you cannot open it in hammer. The original map file have not been released, so as far as I know, you can't open 2fort in Hammer. But I'm no mapper, so I'm not positive

o_dunc · 02-24-2005, 03:17 PM

in that case is there no way of decompiling them like you can with textures and the like? i cant even find a file that looks like it might contain these maps...

o_[wtf?]chemical burn · 02-24-2005, 05:21 PM

The maps are all located in .gcf files. You can find a tool to explore those archives here: http://countermap.counter-strike.net/Nemesis/

As for opening them in hammer, you're only option is to decompile the .bsp into a .map file. This will however produce a .map file where the world brushes are in the form that csg split them into during compile time. This will leave you with a mess of invalid solids, missing textures and misaligned textures. In short, the .map file will not re-compile and can only be used as a guide to re-create the map from scratch.

02-24-2005, 02:34 PM	#1
o_dunc Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hi, real Newbie question :( hey, This might seem a bit amusing to some of you but i'm gonna press on regardless Where on earth do i find the original standard maps used in tfc in a format i can explore in the hammer editor thingy? EG: i want to find 2fort.bsp on my pc as a single file... where is this? It's not in tfc/maps or anywhere in the entire tfc file structure as far as i can see... sorry for being so thick :/ thanks Duncan

02-24-2005, 03:15 PM	#2
o_lethal01 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the .bsp are compiled maps, and thus you cannot open it in hammer. The original map file have not been released, so as far as I know, you can't open 2fort in Hammer. But I'm no mapper, so I'm not positive

02-24-2005, 03:17 PM	#3
o_dunc Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	in that case is there no way of decompiling them like you can with textures and the like? i cant even find a file that looks like it might contain these maps...

02-24-2005, 05:21 PM	#4
o_[wtf?]chemical burn Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The maps are all located in .gcf files. You can find a tool to explore those archives here: http://countermap.counter-strike.net/Nemesis/ As for opening them in hammer, you're only option is to decompile the .bsp into a .map file. This will however produce a .map file where the world brushes are in the form that csg split them into during compile time. This will leave you with a mess of invalid solids, missing textures and misaligned textures. In short, the .map file will not re-compile and can only be used as a guide to re-create the map from scratch.

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