No one plays this mod anymore? - Page 3

**Crazycarl** · 04-21-2010, 12:34 AM

We borrow ideas whenever they are fun or fit what we are trying to achieve. Like Mario Bros. We put a fun feature from Mario in the beta.

Sometimes one of us will come up with a "new" idea, and someone will pipe up, "That's just like (TF2, UT, Starcraft, etc.)". That's a little discouraging, but it's not a bad thing because what works in one game can work in another.

Improving graphics across the board requires more talent, which is best recruited from our players (more dedication). So in the meantime we need to work on the gameplay.

sinez · 04-22-2010, 10:49 AM

Im trying to drum up some attention in my clan, but its rather small, i might only get one persont o stick with it, but if anyone listenes, we might get maby 5 to at least TRY ff, the only problem i have seen so far with this game over tf2 was a glich i had been getting (in both games) where it stoped dling map files, instead just booting the game, it started working again when i joined a map that rotated to a custom map, idk how that fixed it though.

**Elmo** · 04-22-2010, 11:29 AM

whether a map downloads or just kicks you is a server setting

sinez · 04-22-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo

whether a map downloads or just kicks you is a server setting

ya, it used to happen with ANY map i had not dowloaded though, even altered versions of maps i had, EVEN ON SERVERS I HAD PLAYD ON B4! but it stoped, anyway, im gonna anounce an event in mah clan to see if anyone likes ff.

**Elmo** · 04-22-2010, 08:26 PM

ah! cool cool

hope you like it. Lets us know the thoughts of yourself and any friends who do try FF. First impressions are invaluable to us! They frequently confirm whether we're working on the right things or show us new problems we hadn't considered

chilledsanity · 04-22-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo

Lets us know the thoughts of yourself and any friends who do try FF. First impressions are invaluable to us! They frequently confirm whether we're working on the right things or show us new problems we hadn't considered

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Originally Posted by chilledsanity

From an AvD perspective, I was able to get 3 of my friends onboard and playing pretty regularly up through about 2.0. After that, they all more or less quit because they found the balance way too lopsided.

I could maybe try and get some back for 2.4, but since the reason they left was because defense has gotten too weak has that really changed any? Do people think it's STRONGER since 1.11?

Dr.Satan · 04-23-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisp

IFocus on making the game more accessible and appealing to the modern gamer. This entails improving the graphics (levels and models), improving the functionality of the classes, and generally making all of the complexities of the game apparent to first time players so they do not quit in frustration.

that is pretty much what a blog would say we are working on always. That's it.

Yes, new things are being added and stuff is being changed/removed/revamped, but ultimately everything we are doing is moving toward making the game more intuitive and balanced and getting rid of as many hidden mechanics/skills that a new player has no idea exists unless they have played TFC for years or play the game for an extended period of time. While still maintaining the current player base and not alienating them from the game by removing all or most of the things they love and/or have mastered over years of playing.

Seriously, one of us could post that each week in a dev journal and it would cover everything that is going on. Anything more than that is going to:

a) take up time none of us have
b) be construed wrong 98% of the time
c) probably cause more harm than good b/c people aren't going to understand most of the stuff w/out playing it or at the very least reading the discussions that led to it.

wakka · 04-23-2010, 08:04 PM

To answer the posters question, yes the game is dead. It has been out for a long time. The devs are making the game easier to attract new players but this is stopping the current players from enjoying the game. No new players will play because none of the current players play. It's a dead end that will not be resolved unless serious marketing is undertaken.

Dr.Satan · 04-23-2010, 08:12 PM

lol wow...

wakka · 04-23-2010, 08:19 PM

Can I also add that I noticed a HUGE drop in active players when me and Caroline were banned from the O-T Server (mainly caroline).

moosh · 04-23-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wakka

Can I also add that I noticed a HUGE drop in active players when me and Caroline were banned from the O-T Server (mainly caroline).

What does that have to do with anything..?

raum · 04-23-2010, 09:38 PM

in my point of view, the game doesnt exist to be played in public servers mostly, it never did. except the first versions of tfc prolly

but tfc had a respectable amount of players and succeded with even having proper clanstyle gaming pub servers. that was actually a reward to this game. CTF and/or AvD pubs. i remember clanstyle public servers that were real fun, there were admins to make sure everybody doing their jobs ingame. each map was being played according to its game plan (3v/4v/5v *with a lil flexibility to make sense)

this game means a proper teambase gaming to its fans and i believe they are who make this game, support this game, played this game in a proffesional way..

the game which is now being played in public servers(not sure about US pubs but have a quite opinion that its similar) is very chaotic and not that different than any other fps game, no teamplay/no OvD etc. such basics shouldnt be ignored to have a quality time in this game. i believe most important thing missing is a purpose in pubs.

at this moment the point in having public servers is getting more players. letting them learn and like the game and later, having them in proper CTF playerbase.

and btw, theres a sad situation in last couple of months social drama kills this game!

moosh · 04-24-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by raum

and btw, theres a sad situation in last couple of months [B]social drama kills this game!

The playerbase is so small that it's hard to avoid social drama unless you (like a normal person on the internet) wouldn't give a shit. That's why drama ensues quite often.

**Elmo** · 04-24-2010, 05:02 PM

I think you can see there's enough people that do care about this game just from the responses to a thread such as this

Kalmah · 04-25-2010, 08:52 AM

I just found this mod in my periodic surfing on moddb.com and currently downloading. IMHO TF2 sucks my left nut! I was a big TFC fan back in the day, even watching that trailer on the moddb page I was already thinking "hey, that looks like an updated version of the map Well". It would be nice to see this mod make a comeback at some point as TF2 really disappointed me after all those years thinking that game was dead then it when I gave it a try on a friend's pc, I never wanted to play it again. Gameplay was too slow and too much extra unneeded crap added to the game.

just my thoughts.

[AE] 82694 · 04-26-2010, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wakka

Can I also add that I noticed a HUGE drop in active players when me and Caroline were banned from the O-T Server (mainly caroline).

So your taking the blame for not being able to behave on someone else server. I think you are over estimating your nuisance value as to the effect on FF as a whole.

zE · 04-26-2010, 03:18 AM

It´s not that bad imo, in 2.2 i remenber you had to join a server and wait there alone to get some players, at least now you have always populated servers in euro / us where you know there will be players at.
Anyway when theres a new patch out with new features you see a boom in players and leagues tend to start because of that, then after some time the playerbase decreases, but just look at modb a lot of awnsome mods with less players then ff : P . And imo this last patch was a bit fail, it didnt bring anything substancial new, and just tuned down the engy.
And lol wak, what the fact with you beyng banned have to do with less players : P Aayway the fact is that back in the day, you had basicly cs or tfc, now all games out almost weekly base come with multiplayer version, not enought people for the hundreds of games out there D :

chilledsanity · 04-26-2010, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by [AE] 82694

So your taking the blame for not being able to behave on someone else server. I think you are over estimating your nuisance value as to the effect on FF as a whole.

Yeah I dunno, on one side they probably are eliminating some players and can occasionally be overzealous about some things, on the other hand, I'm guessing most of their bans are justified and make for a more civil environment. I've played O-T off and on for a long time and have never been banned, though I got kicked twice. Once for spamming in fightyard (which I thought was silly, it's practically a DM map), and once for being AFK (oops). I have seen some kicks for guilt of association with one player causing trouble, but it's been very rare.

And yeah, 2 players not playing one server I doubt makes any difference at all regarding the mod.

Scuzzy · 04-28-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chilledsanity

Yeah I dunno, on one side they probably are eliminating some players and can occasionally be overzealous about some things, on the other hand, I'm guessing most of their bans are justified and make for a more civil environment. I've played O-T off and on for a long time and have never been banned, though I got kicked twice. Once for spamming in fightyard (which I thought was silly, it's practically a DM map), and once for being AFK (oops). I have seen some kicks for guilt of association with one player causing trouble, but it's been very rare.

And yeah, 2 players not playing one server I doubt makes any difference at all regarding the mod.

You've always been welcome, btw, the AFK thing is automatic and isn't logged... Seen a few guilt by association because there were mistakes in who was doing what, but those are fixed pretty quickly after people explain... only seen a few of those over the years too.

Private_Joker · 05-04-2010, 06:22 PM

One time I tried rrrrreeeeeeeallllyyyyyy hard to convince every gamer I knew that FF was worth playing and playing hard. Then I realized that I'm a busy college student and nobody fucking cares what I have to say. Also TF2 came out..did you guys know that the sniper in that game is an Australian guy? How delightful!

-Joker

P.S. This discussion has been going on yet not progressing at all since about November 2007..if I may declare the moral of the story:
bring your friends.
Also, TLDNR.

04-22-2010, 11:29 AM	#43
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	whether a map downloads or just kicks you is a server setting __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

04-22-2010, 08:26 PM	#45
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	ah! cool cool hope you like it. Lets us know the thoughts of yourself and any friends who do try FF. First impressions are invaluable to us! They frequently confirm whether we're working on the right things or show us new problems we hadn't considered __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

04-23-2010, 08:12 PM	#49
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	lol wow... __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

04-24-2010, 05:02 PM	#54
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	I think you can see there's enough people that do care about this game just from the responses to a thread such as this __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 04-24-2010 at 05:02 PM.

04-26-2010, 03:18 AM	#57
zE Pew pew ze beams Join Date: Jan 2008 Gametype: Gathers Affiliations: pew pew Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	It´s not that bad imo, in 2.2 i remenber you had to join a server and wait there alone to get some players, at least now you have always populated servers in euro / us where you know there will be players at. Anyway when theres a new patch out with new features you see a boom in players and leagues tend to start because of that, then after some time the playerbase decreases, but just look at modb a lot of awnsome mods with less players then ff : P . And imo this last patch was a bit fail, it didnt bring anything substancial new, and just tuned down the engy. And lol wak, what the fact with you beyng banned have to do with less players : P Aayway the fact is that back in the day, you had basicly cs or tfc, now all games out almost weekly base come with multiplayer version, not enought people for the hundreds of games out there D : Last edited by zE; 04-26-2010 at 03:21 AM.

04-21-2010, 12:34 AM	#41
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	We borrow ideas whenever they are fun or fit what we are trying to achieve. Like Mario Bros. We put a fun feature from Mario in the beta. Sometimes one of us will come up with a "new" idea, and someone will pipe up, "That's just like (TF2, UT, Starcraft, etc.)". That's a little discouraging, but it's not a bad thing because what works in one game can work in another. Improving graphics across the board requires more talent, which is best recruited from our players (more dedication). So in the meantime we need to work on the gameplay.

04-22-2010, 10:49 AM	#42
sinez That pie is NOT one of us! Join Date: Apr 2010 Class/Position: SPAH. Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: SPY (Specialists who cause perplexed yelling) Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Im trying to drum up some attention in my clan, but its rather small, i might only get one persont o stick with it, but if anyone listenes, we might get maby 5 to at least TRY ff, the only problem i have seen so far with this game over tf2 was a glich i had been getting (in both games) where it stoped dling map files, instead just booting the game, it started working again when i joined a map that rotated to a custom map, idk how that fixed it though.

04-23-2010, 08:04 PM	#48
wakka Join Date: Aug 2009 Class/Position: top Gametype: pwning caroline in bed Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	To answer the posters question, yes the game is dead. It has been out for a long time. The devs are making the game easier to attract new players but this is stopping the current players from enjoying the game. No new players will play because none of the current players play. It's a dead end that will not be resolved unless serious marketing is undertaken.

04-23-2010, 08:19 PM	#50
wakka Join Date: Aug 2009 Class/Position: top Gametype: pwning caroline in bed Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Can I also add that I noticed a HUGE drop in active players when me and Caroline were banned from the O-T Server (mainly caroline).

04-23-2010, 09:38 PM	#52
raum D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2009 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	in my point of view, the game doesnt exist to be played in public servers mostly, it never did. except the first versions of tfc prolly but tfc had a respectable amount of players and succeded with even having proper clanstyle gaming pub servers. that was actually a reward to this game. CTF and/or AvD pubs. i remember clanstyle public servers that were real fun, there were admins to make sure everybody doing their jobs ingame. each map was being played according to its game plan (3v/4v/5v with a lil flexibility to make sense) this game means a proper teambase gaming to its fans and i believe they are who make this game, support this game, played this game in a proffesional way.. the game which is now being played in public servers(not sure about US pubs but have a quite opinion that its similar) is very chaotic and not that different than any other fps game, no teamplay/no OvD etc. such basics shouldnt be ignored to have a quality time in this game. i believe most important thing missing is a purpose in pubs. at this moment the point in having public servers is getting more players. letting them learn and like the game and later, having them in proper CTF playerbase. and btw, theres a sad situation in last couple of months social drama kills this game!*

04-25-2010, 08:52 AM	#55
Kalmah Drunker Than The Fonz Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: US Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: [-A-] Clan Abducted Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I just found this mod in my periodic surfing on moddb.com and currently downloading. IMHO TF2 sucks my left nut! I was a big TFC fan back in the day, even watching that trailer on the moddb page I was already thinking "hey, that looks like an updated version of the map Well". It would be nice to see this mod make a comeback at some point as TF2 really disappointed me after all those years thinking that game was dead then it when I gave it a try on a friend's pc, I never wanted to play it again. Gameplay was too slow and too much extra unneeded crap added to the game. just my thoughts.

05-04-2010, 06:22 PM	#60
Private_Joker a fucking comedian Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: Scout and Medic Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	One time I tried rrrrreeeeeeeallllyyyyyy hard to convince every gamer I knew that FF was worth playing and playing hard. Then I realized that I'm a busy college student and nobody fucking cares what I have to say. Also TF2 came out..did you guys know that the sniper in that game is an Australian guy? How delightful! -Joker P.S. This discussion has been going on yet not progressing at all since about November 2007..if I may declare the moral of the story: bring your friends. Also, TLDNR. Last edited by Private_Joker; 05-04-2010 at 06:25 PM.

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