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Old 06-11-2010, 03:08 AM   #81
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It would be stupid to think the stuck-up competitive community didn't have a part in this modification's failure. These are the people who constantly dick about in pubs waiting for their pickup to fill. If the pickup doesn't fill, they start harassing regular pub players to help them fill a slot or two. The last time this happened to my knowledge, a younger member of the Fortress Forever community was used as cannon fodder just to get the pickup started, and when he did poorly, the pickup community had no problem treating him like shit and talking shit behind his back despite his age and inexperience.

The competitive community is a joke anyway. They're situationally good. Why do you think these 'competitive' players always dick around in pubs and complain about how pubs suck? It's because they don't want to defend themselves when they get rolled by public players. They're always 'just messing around'. The pickup players are not used to dealing with Pyros or Snipers or people doing innovative and dynamic strategies. They're used to seeing the same two weak ass classes doing the same linear ass strategy over and over. They've become masters of doing it and countering it and the second an actual challenge comes their way, someone break out the tissues, because they're going to spend the next five hours crying in #ff.pickup about how they kept getting sent to their respawn by d Scouts.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:29 AM   #82
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lmao thats awesome..
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:53 AM   #83
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Bridget your last post was pretty poignant until you mentioned the D scout. I've seen what you're describing happen a couple times. Got flamed to hell and back and threatened to be kicked (until a clan admin came in and said I wasn't doing anything wrong) just from playing as O solly and hammering D.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:39 AM   #84
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Never seen this stuff happen in the euro pickups.


JUST SAYING.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:30 PM   #85
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I didn't get bad mouthed that much, but I did see others get bad mouthed a lot.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:40 PM   #86
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There will always be assholes around, in the pub scene and in the competitive scene.
So plz stop throwing shit at the competitive scene as a whole. In the euro pickups we have always taken care of the new players. Giving them tips on how to improve their game and sharing strategies. Most of us are not idiots, we understand that if we talk down or harass newcomers the mod will never grow. But of course there will always be a few dumbasses who either don't understand that they are killing the mod or simply don't care.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:01 PM   #87
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i must kinda agree with glass here.. from the few and in-between euro pickups and clan games i've played, most people are quite friendly.. dunno why that's not the case in other areas.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:28 PM   #88
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bridget, listen to how you are constantly talking shit on the competitive community. noone from the ff.pickup channel is in here talking trash on u pub players.. its most likely because you cant play amongst the competitive community therefore you troll forums and sit in pub games all day that have no winners or losers. afraid of losing

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Old 06-11-2010, 07:51 PM   #89
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Old 06-11-2010, 08:26 PM   #90
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it is like that in USA also we help new players there are just select faggots such as europe has space and caes we have biohaz and spoon
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:31 PM   #91
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bridget, listen to how you are constantly talking shit on the competitive community. noone from the ff.pickup channel is in here talking trash on u pub players.. its most likely because you cant play amongst the competitive community therefore you troll forums and sit in pub games all day that have no winners or losers. afraid of losing
That's because the competitive community is too busy isolated in their IRC channels. Occasionally, they come out to troll our public servers and harass the members, who refuse to add to their pickup or end up getting trashed for joining the pickup and not playing at the same level as everyone else.

Way to prove my point, though.
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:45 PM   #92
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I'm not alone in the development team in feeling increasingly demotivated by so much that goes on in the public and private parts of the forum. We try to look past it all in love for the game but yeah it gets hard.
The dev team has never considered what others think about the development and allowed it to dissuade them in the past, I suspect the lul in development has to do with the explanation of costs of supporting the architecture more then it does with disagreements to direction. However, as has always happened with this mod, when one group gives up another will pick it up.

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Old 06-11-2010, 11:50 PM   #93
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we haven't given up yet.
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:17 AM   #94
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we haven't given up yet.
I didn't say that we had, but you're getting all doom and gloomy on people... they need to know that the mod is bigger then just the current staff, look at all the diverse groups we've had before. This is no different, they can expect the mod to continue even if some of the team here can't deal with their feelings of demotivation.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:34 PM   #95
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Think whatever you like scuzzy, I don't think I'm getting doomy at all.. Gloomy yes and I have every right to be.
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Old 06-12-2010, 02:13 PM   #96
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Why is this thread still being bumped?
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:05 PM   #97
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Why is this thread still being bumped?
Because it still holds merit about most, not all, of the pickup community. Quite a few cool mother fuckers but the rest.....god damnit.... >.>
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:18 PM   #98
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Why do you think these 'competitive' players always dick around in pubs and complain about how pubs suck? It's because they don't want to defend themselves when they get rolled by public players. They're always 'just messing around'. The pickup players are not used to dealing with Pyros or Snipers or people doing innovative and dynamic strategies
LOL! What an absolute douchebag!
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:21 PM   #99
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it is like that in USA also we help new players there are just select faggots such as europe has space and caes we have biohaz and spoon
Caesium has single-handedly done more to help new players than anybody I can think of in FF, ten fold. He has gone out of his way to set up alias's to help train new clans. That one thing ALONE blows my mind. He helped grow euro clans like DMC from scratch. I've seen hours of his IRC logs with new players only for them to fuck off 1 game later and that's just what springs to mind.

Shows, as usual, that you really don't know fuck all and you just want to do what you always do, snipe at certain people. Douchebag.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:38 PM   #100
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Euro competitive community has always been reasonably well managed...did its best to protect and encourage new players.
Yet we are dead or close to death. Still everything is in working order and we have servers still in operation.

USA seems to be doing alot better. The group that plays there hasn't changed much over the years.

Anyways I'm just glad that I can atleast play somewhere still.
No point in telling the devteam to hurry up..i guess? ;p
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