ff to include css textures?

o_shadow34721 · 08-30-2006, 09:26 PM

are there plans for the final version of ff to come with css textures included or will the mappers have to embed any they want to use?

o_ginger lord · 08-30-2006, 09:28 PM

It's illegal to distribute anything outside of the base source engine .gcf files.

o_shadow34721 · 08-30-2006, 10:29 PM

oh gg then i guess

o_nezumi · 08-30-2006, 10:48 PM

I hope I don't get in trouble for distributing the tiger tank from DoD:S in ff_tiger.

o_shadow34721 · 08-31-2006, 12:42 AM

the only thing is that css is free to anyone owning hl2... but dods is not necessarily bundled with hl2.

on a side note hammer just screamed at me and crashed.
i got several hundered error boxes all at the same time. yay.

Defrag · 08-31-2006, 01:52 AM

CS:S is not free to all HL2 owners nowadays. The packages have been revised.

o_kam · 08-31-2006, 03:35 AM

dont want to have cs:s installed to play ff anyway

Mulchman MM · 08-31-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Lord

It's illegal to distribute anything outside of the base source engine .gcf files.

Actually... that might not be entirely correct if your mod stays free...

o_ginger lord · 08-31-2006, 01:30 PM

Word from Valve is it isnt. You can use anything soure materials.gcf, source models.gcf, source sounds.gcf as anyone who buys a source engine game gets those .gcf's

If you buy CSS or DoDS you get extra ones, now if you extract and repackage them with a mod/map you are pretty much breaking copyright laws and there is the chance of being sued, highly unlikely but that is the law. My mod's emailed Valve on this and was told this.

Yes Epicenter has a CSS APC in it, but that was put in before the packages were revised and you no longer got CSS free with HL2.

o_shadow34721 · 08-31-2006, 03:29 PM

i have no idea what im talking about, but whats the point of counter strike source shared.gcf then?

o_ginger lord · 08-31-2006, 04:01 PM

Perhaps for CS2 or any plans to port CS:CZ etc to Source.

o_pixel · 08-31-2006, 09:22 PM

well you'll be able to use hl2 textures

**mervaka** · 08-31-2006, 10:23 PM

so if a mod were to just look up the GCFs again, making them a prequisite for the mod, it would be okay? just repackaging is bad? i'm not saying FF should in any way btw

o_ginger lord · 08-31-2006, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mervaka

so if a mod were to just look up the GCFs again, making them a prequisite for the mod, it would be okay? just repackaging is bad? i'm not saying FF should in any way btw

Thats correct, looking up the .gcf's is fine. But you then have to make it clear you need game X else you'll find a load of ERROR models and pink and black chequers.

08-30-2006, 09:26 PM	#1
o_shadow34721 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ff to include css textures? are there plans for the final version of ff to come with css textures included or will the mappers have to embed any they want to use?

08-31-2006, 01:52 AM	#6
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	CS:S is not free to all HL2 owners nowadays. The packages have been revised. __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

08-31-2006, 10:23 PM	#13
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	so if a mod were to just look up the GCFs again, making them a prequisite for the mod, it would be okay? just repackaging is bad? i'm not saying FF should in any way btw __________________ Support FF:

08-30-2006, 09:28 PM	#2
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's illegal to distribute anything outside of the base source engine .gcf files.

08-30-2006, 10:29 PM	#3
o_shadow34721 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	oh gg then i guess

08-30-2006, 10:48 PM	#4
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I hope I don't get in trouble for distributing the tiger tank from DoD:S in ff_tiger.

08-31-2006, 12:42 AM	#5
o_shadow34721 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the only thing is that css is free to anyone owning hl2... but dods is not necessarily bundled with hl2. on a side note hammer just screamed at me and crashed. i got several hundered error boxes all at the same time. yay.

08-31-2006, 03:35 AM	#7
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	dont want to have cs:s installed to play ff anyway

08-31-2006, 01:30 PM	#9
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Word from Valve is it isnt. You can use anything soure materials.gcf, source models.gcf, source sounds.gcf as anyone who buys a source engine game gets those .gcf's If you buy CSS or DoDS you get extra ones, now if you extract and repackage them with a mod/map you are pretty much breaking copyright laws and there is the chance of being sued, highly unlikely but that is the law. My mod's emailed Valve on this and was told this. Yes Epicenter has a CSS APC in it, but that was put in before the packages were revised and you no longer got CSS free with HL2.

08-31-2006, 03:29 PM	#10
o_shadow34721 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i have no idea what im talking about, but whats the point of counter strike source shared.gcf then?

08-31-2006, 04:01 PM	#11
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Perhaps for CS2 or any plans to port CS:CZ etc to Source.

08-31-2006, 09:22 PM	#12
o_pixel Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	well you'll be able to use hl2 textures

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